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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2010 16:04:53 GMT -5
Never seen the the Batman movies from the 40s are they any good?
My top 3 are:
1. Batman Begins 2. Batman (1989) 3. the Dark Knight
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Post by shadowangel on Dec 30, 2010 16:22:48 GMT -5
The 1966 Batman, it's hilarious, i also love the TV series Dark Knight and Batman Returns follow, great movies but lack Adam West
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Post by Renslayer on Dec 30, 2010 16:29:24 GMT -5
I went outside the box & went with Batman & Mr. Freeze: Sub-Zero. It's an awesome movie & it's on Netflix for those who haven't seen it yet.
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Post by DSR on Dec 31, 2010 4:45:46 GMT -5
BEGINS is my favorite Batman picture, and one of my top 5 favorite films ever. MASK OF THE PHANTASM was my favorite before that, and I'll always have a soft spot in my heart for BATMAN ('89). I enjoyed UNDER THE RED HOOD, but need to watch it again (a few times, even) to see where I'd put it on the grand scale of Bat-films. But either way, I'm a huge Batman fan, and can find merit in just about ANY of the Bat-films (though there's still a few I need to pick up). Yes, at certain times, I can even enjoy AND ROBIN.
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Post by hollywood on Dec 31, 2010 11:14:47 GMT -5
My vote still goes to Batman 1989 as my favorite (which, considering all the films that preceded it, is odd how so many call it "the original," but I digress...), but I'm also among the camp preferring Batman Begins to The Dark Knight.
Begins just had so many great, classic superhero moments with a modern feel. For example...
When the neurotoxin is spreading throughout the city streets, Jim Gordon is radioing in for backup, but the acting commissioner is telling him the bridges are all out. He sadly says, "Jim, there's nothing we can do..." And immediately, the Batmobile soars through the air behind him, coming to the rescue!
And, at the very end of the film, when everything appears to be fine (for now...), Gordon says to Batman, "I never did say thank you...?" Batman just smiles and says, "And you'll never have to."
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2010 11:23:56 GMT -5
89 Batman for me.
Keaton did a great job. Jack did Joker exactly as I'd always imagined him and Prince was all over the soundtrack.
I think Nolan's films are both great, but not the life changing force they were for other people.
I know its a wierd way to judge, but to this day I still quote tons of stuff from 89 Batman and off the top of my head I only remember two quotes from Nolan's films;
"Where's Falcone?" Which I use in a mocking way to make fun of Bale's choice of Batvoice."
And the one about living long enough to be a villian.
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Post by hollywood on Dec 31, 2010 11:28:15 GMT -5
"Where's Falcone?" Which I use in a mocking way to make fun of Bale's choice of Batvoice. To be fair, everyone makes fun of Bale's Batvoice.
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Post by A Dubya (El Hombre Muerto) on Dec 31, 2010 12:06:35 GMT -5
Mask of the Phantasm or Batman (1989). I loved TDK though.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 31, 2010 14:08:07 GMT -5
Begins by a f***ing mile. TDK was alright, but take away Ledger's performance and it's nothing special. I enjoyed Forever for its campiness, and Batman '89 for Nicholson and Keaton's performances.
1. Begins 2. Batman ('89) 3. Forever
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Dec 31, 2010 14:40:47 GMT -5
The other snag I have with TDK is that, while I love it, it's a film about Gotham rather than Batman. That's the problem with most of the live-action Batman films. The only one that's really been all about Batman was Begins. My major gripe with The Dark Knight is that Batman has no resolve, and basically regresses in character. In Batman Begins, they establish that he'd been gone for nearly a decade training and learning to come back and save Gotham. When The Dark Knight begins, he's already fussing about wanting to hang it up and stop being Batman. Do they mean to tell me that this guy spent eight years training to do something, then wants to quit six months into what he trained for? That'd be like going through medical school, then quitting your job as a doctor after six months. Well, to be fair in Mask of Phantasm he was ready to quit being a vigilante for the woman he proposed to. So it's not that bad when you think about it. If anything it shows how conflicted Bruce is and how he'll always be Batman regardless of the situation.
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Post by dav on Dec 31, 2010 15:13:59 GMT -5
Never really thought much of the Burton films in hindsight. They weren't really Batman films really. More sort of 'Gothic atmosphere with some weirdo and Batman's in it at some points'.
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Post by DSR on Dec 31, 2010 17:01:50 GMT -5
Begins by a f***ing mile. TDK was alright, but take away Ledger's performance and it's nothing special. I enjoyed Forever for its campiness, and Batman '89 for Nicholson and Keaton's performances. I actually think Eckhart's Dent/Two-Face was a better character and a better performance. No disrespect to Ledger (his performance was great), but everyone already loves the Joker so they're naturally gonna gravitate towards that performance (combined with it being Ledger's last complete acting performance...I don't want to say its just because Ledger died, I think that's bulls***, but there was a certain lightning-in-a-bottle circumstance to the whole thing). Eckhart made me re-examine Two-Face as a character, though, and bumped him up as my favorite member of Batman's rogues gallery. Sorry if this turned into an incoherent ramble.
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Post by . on Dec 31, 2010 17:38:48 GMT -5
TDK in combination with batman begins ( which why ppl shit on it for explaining his origins i'll never know, It was a fresh strat so why not start at the THEE start? ) salavged the franchise after JS nearly killed it and burried it 16ft under.
That along which alot of other reasons is why it gets the nod, The first batman did a good job salavaging the franchise from the campy tv series.
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Post by Big L on Dec 31, 2010 19:00:36 GMT -5
The Dark Knight
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Post by pavement on Dec 31, 2010 19:47:52 GMT -5
DK,89 Batman and the Red Hood for me.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2010 21:45:34 GMT -5
Begins by a f***ing mile. TDK was alright, but take away Ledger's performance and it's nothing special. I enjoyed Forever for its campiness, and Batman '89 for Nicholson and Keaton's performances. I actually think Eckhart's Dent/Two-Face was a better character and a better performance. No disrespect to Ledger (his performance was great), but everyone already loves the Joker so they're naturally gonna gravitate towards that performance (combined with it being Ledger's last complete acting performance...I don't want to say its just because Ledger died, I think that's bulls***, but there was a certain lightning-in-a-bottle circumstance to the whole thing). Eckhart made me re-examine Two-Face as a character, though, and bumped him up as my favorite member of Batman's rogues gallery. Sorry if this turned into an incoherent ramble. I fully agree - Ledger was great, but I think Eckhart was more deserving of an Oscar than he was.
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Post by Free Hat on Dec 31, 2010 22:07:09 GMT -5
I hear that a lot regarding Eckhart/Ledger, and I always have to wonder if these people watched the same movie I did. I mean Eckhart was good, but he wasn't THAT good.
Anyway, my choice would be the Nolan films (TDK first, Begins second). Phantasm is the best of the animated movies (and leagues ahead of any of the previous live action films), but I don't think it's even as good as some of the best episodes of TAS. I've always disliked the Burton films ('89 especially) for their complete lack of anything resembling a plot, and of course the less said about Schumacher's efforts the better. I enjoy Batman '66 for what it is, but it's not something I'm likely to go out of my way to watch. I've never seen the 1940's serials.
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Post by Captain Patren Fenderbaum-X on Dec 31, 2010 22:34:22 GMT -5
Both burton Batmans tie for me.
I enjoyed begins and tdk but they just lacked that atmosphere that burton created.
Like in 89 and returns gotham felt like....well it felt like gotham where as in nolans movies it was just batman in a city there was no feeling to me atleast that this was gotham city i am seeing , in burtons there was much more attention to detail IMO in creating this world that i loved and still appreciate when i go back and watch those films. And of course there is keaton as batman IMO the greatest batman put to film ever , nicholson , and the best batmobile ever.
Oh and there is that little thing about michelle phieffer as catwoman....ya know lol.
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Post by Bishblast on Dec 31, 2010 22:37:22 GMT -5
Begins > Dark Knight.
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