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Post by Lance Uppercut on Dec 29, 2010 4:43:10 GMT -5
On the Jobber totem pole, who is the most Jobberific, and which has the most credibility.
I don't know quite know if it's too late for Evan Borne yet, so I'll go with Mark Henry as "pushed" of the jobbers. One day he's losing to Random Nexus Member, the next he's squashing Tyson Kidd.
On the other side of the coin.... let's just say Chavo. Because He's Chavo.
is it worse to be kind of a winner on superstars or squashed repeatedly on Raw/Smackdown?
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Post by kidglov3s on Dec 29, 2010 4:45:35 GMT -5
It seems pretty clear to me that Mark Henry is the King of the Jobbers. When they come out in a group he usually leads, with his music playing.
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Post by Alex Shelley on Dec 29, 2010 4:47:50 GMT -5
"is it worse to be kind of a winner on superstars or squashed repeatedly on Raw/Smackdown?"
This is a question I've asked myself several times. I'm really not sure.
If you're on Raw or Smackdown, at least people know who you are. So, even if you're a total jobber, I think that's better than winning on Superstars every week, where you'll get longer matches that are probably going to be good quality, but only a small amount of dedicated fans will get to appreciate you.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Dec 29, 2010 4:54:37 GMT -5
I think Mark is more at the lower end of the midcard than an actual jobber. At least he gets to appear on the main show fairly regularly.
The true jobbers are the guys who appear almost exclusively on Superstars, and only get wins over each other. And even there, there's a certain hierarchy.
I'd say the very bottom of the barrel is probably Hawkins, who seems to be on the losing end more often than not of his eternal feud with Baretta.
Have either of them fought Primo? Because he's the other main canidate for the lowest spot on the totem pole.
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Post by Bake Or Die on Dec 29, 2010 4:57:31 GMT -5
I rather be a winner on Superstars
Jobbers: Highest:Goldust/Mark Henry/R-Truth Lowest:Darren Young/Primo/Chavo Guerrero
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2010 5:01:27 GMT -5
I'd say of all the undercard Primo has to be the lowest rated. His biggest win is over Yoshi Tatsu.
Let that sink in for a moment.
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Post by Alex Shelley on Dec 29, 2010 5:04:49 GMT -5
I think Mark is more at the lower end of the midcard than an actual jobber. At least he gets to appear on the main show fairly regularly. The true jobbers are the guys who appear almost exclusively on Superstars, and only get wins over each other. And even there, there's a certain hierarchy. I'd say the very bottom of the barrel is probably Hawkins, who seems to be on the losing end more often than not of his eternal feud with Baretta. Have either of them fought Primo? Because he's the other main canidate for the lowest spot on the totem pole. Somebody in one of the Superstars threads determined that Hawkins and Barreta aren't even a part of the jobber totem pole. They're in their own little plane and can only defeat one another. Neither of them have fought Primo, but I'll be the one to admit that Hawkins did in fact lose to JTG
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Post by lovingway on Dec 29, 2010 5:56:16 GMT -5
I'd say Mark Henry is in the Hardcore Holly role now. He is a jobber to the stars but usually defeats the jobbers. He gets a good pop but isn't squashed and could still get a tag title reign here and there
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Post by Johnny Truant on Dec 29, 2010 8:40:17 GMT -5
From highest to lowest:
Mark Henry William Regal Goldust Zack Ryder Yoshi Tatsu Chris Masters Primo JTG Darren Young (he's like a jobber to the jobbers)
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Post by edgedge on Dec 29, 2010 12:47:41 GMT -5
From highest to lowest: Mark Henry William Regal Goldust Zack Ryder Yoshi Tatsu Chris Masters Primo JTG Darren Young (he's like a jobber to the jobbers) But Darren Young beat Primo. Also, where do Trent, Hawkins and Chavo factor in? I think somebody should do an in-depth analysis of this.
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Post by BigWill on Dec 29, 2010 12:53:11 GMT -5
I think it should be more like this. Highest to lowest:
Mark Henry William Regal Goldust Zack Ryder Chris Masters Yoshi Tatsu JTG Darren Young Primo Hawkins Barreta Chavo
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Post by MyndSkape: A Poor Man's Virgil on Dec 29, 2010 13:03:44 GMT -5
I think it should be more like this. Highest to lowest: Mark Henry William Regal Goldust Zack Ryder Chris Masters Yoshi Tatsu JTG Darren Young Primo Hawkins Barreta Chavo I saw this depth chart and almost shed a tear realizing that Kaval got beat by Chavo a few weeks back :'^( And it's weird that of all these people, maybe next to Mark Henry, it's Chris Masters as of late that's getting more face time on his brand's top show.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Dec 29, 2010 13:06:24 GMT -5
Darren Young's the one guy I could see being lower than Ryder right now, and even that's debatable since Ryder's sucktitude appears to be part of the WWE's official canon.
The one thing that keeps standing out is when Sheamus hand-picked him for a title defense solely for a cheap win that would allow him to take Night of Champions off. And indeed, he won with one Brouge Kick.
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Post by Baixo Astral on Dec 29, 2010 13:18:54 GMT -5
I would suggest that quite possibly Primo doesn't exist, and that he's either a collective hallucination we're all having, or we're piecing him together out of a motley assortment of Chavo/JTG/Tatsu/Ryder matches, and projecting it all onto an idealized nondescript Latino man(g).
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Post by Andrew is Good on Dec 29, 2010 13:43:34 GMT -5
I'd have to say Primo, the GM of Superstars. He loses constantly on Superstars. At least some of the other guys get to appear on Raw and Smackdown every now and then.
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Post by turkeysandwich on Dec 29, 2010 14:24:45 GMT -5
I'm starting to wonder if Ted, Jr. needs to be added to this list. He even lost last night on NXT.
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Post by azz0r on Dec 29, 2010 14:29:31 GMT -5
No doubt its Primo. He jobs so much that he doesnt appear on anything but Superstars.
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Post by "Hollywood" Cactus Matt on Dec 29, 2010 14:36:58 GMT -5
I'd have to say Primo, the GM of Superstars. He loses constantly on Superstars. At least some of the other guys get to appear on Raw and Smackdown every now and then. That's a good point, which leads me to wonder: what the hell brand is Primo on, anyway? I'm sure I could find out if I checked wwe.com, but if I can't tell you off the top of my head, then it's pretty pathetic, IMO. Primo and Chavo for Tag Team champions! ;D
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Post by TLKiller990 on Dec 29, 2010 17:22:26 GMT -5
Zack Ryder's highest wrestler in WWE roster. He should win WWE Title, after winning WWE Title, he should be WHC and first Undisputed World WWE Champion.
WWWYKI
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Dec 29, 2010 17:29:04 GMT -5
I'd have to say Primo, the GM of Superstars. He loses constantly on Superstars. At least some of the other guys get to appear on Raw and Smackdown every now and then. That's a good point, which leads me to wonder: what the hell brand is Primo on, anyway? I'm sure I could find out if I checked wwe.com, but if I can't tell you off the top of my head, then it's pretty pathetic, IMO. Primo and Chavo for Tag Team champions! ;D I'm pretty sure Primo is on Raw. At least thats where i remember seeing him last(and to be honest, I DON'T remember when I saw him last).
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