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Post by Jacob Lee on Dec 28, 2010 9:19:44 GMT -5
So everybody was claiming CM Punk deserved better and now he's in a main event feud with John Cena and most of what I see online is negative.
Daniel Bryan was a jobber when he was first hired and now he's been booked to be a submission specialist who never loses and if he does it's to a main event level guy and he's made to look good.
Ted DiBiase has no charisma and people thought he was handed too much too soon so WWE pushed him down the card and elevated others who've made more progress. Now tons of people are complaining about that.
The secondary titles in the WWE were basically useless so WWE went and made Daniel Bryan and Dolph Ziggler long term champions who wrestle every week and are booked strongly. Somehow everybody complains about that.
Everybody hated Michael Cole so WWE used that to make him a heel commentator. Cole excelled at this and everybody loved it...for a few weeks before they found out they were supposed to hate everything.
I'm just wondering what, if apparently anything, the WWE could do to make people happy?
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Post by Nikki Heyman on Dec 28, 2010 9:55:10 GMT -5
Nothing. The IWC is never happy  Personally, with the exception of Cole and Dibiase, I'm liking what I see right now. |
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Post by Djm Doesn't Find You Funny on Dec 28, 2010 9:56:20 GMT -5
We are the IWC, resistance is futile. We are one: The Chosen Ones.
Wait. I'm perfectly happy with what they're doing with Bryan. AHHHHHHHH! INDIVIDUAL THOUGHT!!
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Post by Jacob Lee on Dec 28, 2010 10:01:29 GMT -5
I guess it just confuses me because I always thought wrestling was just dumb fun. I never watch a wrestling show like it's Masterpiece Theater. Something may be bad or good, but I'm not going to dwell on it. There's enough misery in the world without people trying to tear apart the things they supposedly enjoy.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 28, 2010 10:01:47 GMT -5
Let's see... Miz is WWE champ, AmDrag is US champ (and looking a good champ), Ziggler's having great matches as IC champ, Nattie's the Diva's champ and having good matches, Punk's in the main event, Mark Henry's getting a a few wins again, commentary isn't as insufferable as it used to be.
Yeah, I'm pretty happy with how things are at the moment.
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Post by Jacob Lee on Dec 28, 2010 10:05:25 GMT -5
Let's see... Miz is WWE champ, AmDrag is US champ (and looking a good champ), Ziggler's having great matches as IC champ, Nattie's the Diva's champ and having good matches, Punk's in the main event, Mark Henry's getting a a few wins again, commentary isn't as insufferable as it used to be. Yeah, I'm pretty happy with how things are at the moment. Another thing people seem to miss out on in my opinion is how the WWE is actually living up to the World portion of their name. I love how it isn't all just Americans and I can see guys like Barrett, Gabriel, Sheamus and McIntyre. Heck...even Kozlov. It's nice to get to see wrestlers from all around the world getting pushed again. |
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Post by Djm Doesn't Find You Funny on Dec 28, 2010 10:08:39 GMT -5
I guess it just confuses me because I always thought wrestling was just dumb fun. I never watch a wrestling show like it's Masterpiece Theater. Something may be bad or good, but I'm not going to dwell on it. There's enough misery in the world without people trying to tear apart the things they supposedly enjoy. See, here's the thing. Wrestling can be good, and it can be bad. If it's bad, IMO, people have every right to say something about it, instead of just writing it off as "Just Entertainment". It's how the wrestling business gets away with half-assing a product, when they shouldn't. Punk as the leader of Nexus is interesting. Daniel Bryan as US Champion is great. The Swagger Soaring Eagle is hilarious. At the same time, Dolph Ziggler bores me to death. I'd use the same argument people use about Daniel Bryan on him. Yeah, he has good matches, but without Vickie, he's a heatless FCW Create-A-Wrestler. I find most things John Cena says to be utterly painful. And WWE still doesn't have the stones to do the one big match they have left at Wrestlemania. See? Positive, and negative. You're allowed to do that. |
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Post by Big Daddy Bad Booking on Dec 28, 2010 10:12:44 GMT -5
Read my thread of my views on RAW last night about the end, and you'll understand.
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Post by Snowman on Dec 28, 2010 10:13:35 GMT -5
There is always room for constructive criticism, but there are certain posters on here who moan about EVERYTHING, as soon as I see their avatar I know they are going to be bitching about something. Makes me wonder why the posters like this even bother watching any more.
But if you think there is negativity towards WWE, try reading the TNA forum!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2010 10:14:25 GMT -5
I don't really notice any over the top criticism on these boards.
Any "negativity" is just room for improvement.
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Post by Jacob Lee on Dec 28, 2010 10:15:29 GMT -5
I guess it just confuses me because I always thought wrestling was just dumb fun. I never watch a wrestling show like it's Masterpiece Theater. Something may be bad or good, but I'm not going to dwell on it. There's enough misery in the world without people trying to tear apart the things they supposedly enjoy. See, here's the thing. Wrestling can be good, and it can be bad. If it's bad, IMO, people have every right to say something about it, instead of just writing it off as "Just Entertainment". It's how the wrestling business gets away with half-assing a product, when they shouldn't. Punk as the leader of Nexus is interesting. Daniel Bryan as US Champion is great. The Swagger Soaring Eagle is hilarious. At the same time, Dolph Ziggler bores me to death. I'd use the same argument people use about Daniel Bryan on him. Yeah, he has good matches, but without Vickie, he's a heatless FCW Create-A-Wrestler. I find most things John Cena says to be utterly painful. And WWE still doesn't have the stones to do the one big match they have left at Wrestlemania. See? Positive, and negative. You're allowed to do that. I agree with what you're saying for the most part. The only point I was trying to make is that if there is ten things on a show and you like eight of them then should the two things you hate be what you focus on? I still disagree that wrestling storyline should be looked into far too much. When I was younger I thought Austin spraying McMahon with the beer truck was hilarious. However, how would the McMahons not notice a gigantic beer truck backstage? Also, if Austin works for McMahon then there is pretty much no way the feud would ever take place. The entire awesome Austin/McMahon feud is idiotic if you look into it way too much. I'd rather just laugh about the angle and enjoy it from the couch and save my deep thinking for more important matters. But I see the point you are making. |
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Post by Citizen Zero on Dec 28, 2010 10:17:07 GMT -5
Personally I have no problems with most of the things that you've listed.
Mostly my problems revolve around:
a)Face-time being given to non-wrestlers like Cole (at least Vickie Guerrero is managing someone)
b)The big heel faction of the past year, the Nexus, basically accomplishing zilch in the grand scheme of things, being unable to even put a title on their leader. Basically, barring CM Punk being able to turn things around, being a huge waste of time and money on the WWE's part.
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Post by Jacob Lee on Dec 28, 2010 10:19:20 GMT -5
There is always room for constructive criticism, but there are certain posters on here who moan about EVERYTHING, as soon as I see their avatar I know they are going to be bitching about something. Makes me wonder why the posters like this even bother watching any more. But if you think there is negativity towards WWE, try reading the TNA forum! Yeah, people go a little overboard about TNA. It isn't my cup of tea, but it would not be fair to ruin it for the people who do enjoy it. I wasn't even singling out these boards in particular. It was more about wrestling websites in general. The comments sections on 411mania and lordsofpain might be the most depressing things I've ever read. |
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Post by Snowman on Dec 28, 2010 10:23:06 GMT -5
There is always room for constructive criticism, but there are certain posters on here who moan about EVERYTHING, as soon as I see their avatar I know they are going to be bitching about something. Makes me wonder why the posters like this even bother watching any more. But if you think there is negativity towards WWE, try reading the TNA forum! Yeah, people go a little overboard about TNA. It isn't my cup of tea, but it would not be fair to ruin it for the people who do enjoy it. I wasn't even singling out these boards in particular. It was more about wrestling websites in general. The comments sections on 411mania and lordsofpain might be the most depressing things I've ever read. Oh man, you are right on that last past. The 411mania comments section is probably the lowest most depressing place on the whole internets. Shame they got rid of their forum for that. |
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Post by Jacob Lee on Dec 28, 2010 10:27:32 GMT -5
Yeah, people go a little overboard about TNA. It isn't my cup of tea, but it would not be fair to ruin it for the people who do enjoy it. I wasn't even singling out these boards in particular. It was more about wrestling websites in general. The comments sections on 411mania and lordsofpain might be the most depressing things I've ever read. Oh man, you are right on that last past. The 411mania comments section is probably the lowest most depressing place on the whole internets. Shame they got rid of their forum for that. 411mania's comment section is more depressing than listening to Neil Young's After the Gold Rush while watching old stock footage of the World War 2. |
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Post by Snowman on Dec 28, 2010 10:31:30 GMT -5
Oh man, you are right on that last past. The 411mania comments section is probably the lowest most depressing place on the whole internets. Shame they got rid of their forum for that. 411mania's comment section is more depressing than listening to Neil Young's After the Gold Rush while watching old stock footage of the World War 2. 411mania's comment section is more depressing than drinking a bottle of gin while watching a bag of puppies being drowned. |
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Post by Nikki Heyman on Dec 28, 2010 10:44:51 GMT -5
411mania's comment section is more depressing than listening to Neil Young's After the Gold Rush while watching old stock footage of the World War 2. 411mania's comment section is more depressing than drinking a bottle of gin while watching a bag of puppies being drowned. 411mania's comment section is more depressing than being alone on your birthday. |
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Post by Jacob Lee on Dec 28, 2010 11:36:15 GMT -5
411mania's comment section is more depressing than drinking a bottle of gin while watching a bag of puppies being drowned. 411mania's comment section is more depressing than being alone on your birthday. 411mania's comment section is more depressing than having to watch the end of Old Yeller on repeat while tied to a chair with your eyes held open like in Clockwork Orange. |
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Post by pink on Dec 28, 2010 15:18:16 GMT -5
Yeah, people go a little overboard about TNA. It isn't my cup of tea, but it would not be fair to ruin it for the people who do enjoy it. I wasn't even singling out these boards in particular. It was more about wrestling websites in general. The comments sections on 411mania and lordsofpain might be the most depressing things I've ever read. Oh man, you are right on that last past. The 411mania comments section is probably the lowest most depressing place on the whole internets. Shame they got rid of their forum for that. You've obviously never been to SEScoops.com. IMO, I like what's going on now. it's just that the IWC qon't let anybody enjoy anything. |
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