Jazzman
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Post by Jazzman on Jun 8, 2011 19:30:32 GMT -5
Same here. I get what Blood is saying though. It's a hard line for me to blur Maybe it could get to a point where somebody, Bergman maybe, could try to talk Seth down, kind of lampshade the fact that he's acting increasingly crazy. Hard to say man, becuase I think Seth right now wouldn't respond to anything in character. Plus I jumped on that thing when I didn't accept the spot in the tag match.
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Fiddleford H. McGucket
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Post by Fiddleford H. McGucket on Jun 8, 2011 19:35:52 GMT -5
I may be wrong in saying this...so correct me if I am....
Its seems to me that, given Seth's single-mindedness, unless he actually hurts someone "Good" in his eyes, he's probably going to keep on this path of vengeance.
Also....Blood may be the ost compassionate member of Pantheon and a possible weak link.....*HRRM* must investigate further
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Post by hossfan on Jun 8, 2011 19:48:26 GMT -5
Eh, the Pantheon crippled Seth's wife and took over his company by force, which in its own way is just as over the top as his threats. I'd say he has just cause for vowing brutal vengeance. The Undertaker did it all the time with less provocation and he's an American treasure.
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lodirulz
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Post by lodirulz on Jun 8, 2011 19:53:46 GMT -5
(Sits in the rafters)
Heh Heh Heh....
It's great to back everybody. I'm back for now, and hopefully I can start off with a bang for The Pantheon.
Whenever my return match is, It'll be in the one match I've never lost: Lodi's Rulz.
That is, if it's ok with Socko.
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Post by Topher is Human on Jun 8, 2011 19:55:11 GMT -5
I may be wrong in saying this...so correct me if I am.... Its seems to me that, given Seth's single-mindedness, unless he actually hurts someone "Good" in his eyes, he's probably going to keep on this path of vengeance. Also....Blood may be the ost compassionate member of Pantheon and a possible weak link.....*HRRM* must investigate further Uhoh... Socko, he's on to us... Run!
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Post by Mr. Socko's Brother on Jun 8, 2011 20:11:06 GMT -5
I may be wrong in saying this...so correct me if I am.... Its seems to me that, given Seth's single-mindedness, unless he actually hurts someone "Good" in his eyes, he's probably going to keep on this path of vengeance. Also....Blood may be the ost compassionate member of Pantheon and a possible weak link.....*HRRM* must investigate further Yeah, I'm pretty sure that Seth is gonna remain convinced that he's in the right no matter what. The real question, I think, is whether it's possible for him to do something which will cause Richlen, say, to be like "WHOA, you've snapped Seth. You're out of control. From now on you're on your own, muchacho." As far as Blood's concerned, it's complicated with him, but rather than just say he's not entirely good or bad and leave it at that I'll try to elaborate. One thing is that he wants respect, and he gets pissed off if he feels he isn't getting it. Often he'll get pissed enough to turn violent, often disproportionally violent. Such as when he was angry at Seth for screwing with his music and started beating up a fan wearing a Drakin t-shirt, or how willing he was to injure Seth and Jessica. He hasn't always been respectful towards other people himself, of course. But as is the case with a lot of human beings, sadly, he's slow to apologize and quick to rationalize. Even though he's on Michaels' side right now, he still hasn't said "I'm sorry for reducing Sara to tears over the phone when I was feuding with you" or anything like that. That's not to say that he can't feel sorry for people, though. He doesn't feel sorry for Seth because as far as he's concerned, Seth disrespected him and because of that Seth deserves whatever he gets. He also doesn't feel sorry for Jessica because Jessica also disrespected him, although if he could actually see the state she's in for himself he might feel a pang of remorse...maybe...possibly... But he does feel sorry for Sara. He might not have said he's sorry for what he did to her, but he thinks that she deserves better than to have a father like Hideo and to be forced into marrying somebody she doesn't love. This isn't entirely inconsistent with what he was saying during his feud with Michaels, because back then he was telling both Jono and Sara that it disgusted him how a grown man and woman like them allowed this guy to run their lives like they were kids, and that they should be standing up to him. The way Blood told them that was pretty heelish. He wanted to show Jono that obeying Hideo blindly would get him nowhere, and he did it by breaking Hideo's finges until Hideo screamed "Let Stone pin you!", costing Michaels and Naitch the tag titles. Blood hoped not only to retain his championship, which he did, but also to make Michaels think "If I didn't follow Hideo's order, I might be a champion now." Leading to him thinking "Maybe I shouldn't be listening to Hideo at all." I think that Blood wants people to stand up for themselves the way he believes he stood up for himself against Seth and whoever else tries to push him around (whether they're actually doing that or whether he's overreacting to something very minor), and once Jonathan began standing up to Hideo Blood was happy. He wants Sara to stand up to him as well. Finally, as far as the rest of the roster goes: he hates Seth, yes. He's had his feuds with Richlen. And he's stated that he believed Jackson was holding everybody else down back when he, Jackson, was champ. But he's not gonna hate guys just because "I'm a heel, you're a face, so I hate you for no reason." He has nothing against Sparks, although he almost did when he thought that Sparks wasn't taking him seriously before their match. He actually respects BRB (who I thought was a face, although the match at the PPV makes me wonder if I was right about that). He's not interested in ruling with an iron fist; instead, he's trying to take a page out of Victor Von Doom's book, because Doom's a villain who nevertheless won the hearts and minds of his people because he treated them well. Blood wants to treat everybody fairly, the way he feels Drakin never did, because he figures that if he does they will be indifferent to him and the Pantheon at worst. On the other hand, if they treat people like Sparks unfairly, he feels it could come back to bite them in the ass, and he would rather not be bitten there. LOL, kind of a long character summary for an e-fed wrestler, huh? I have too much time on my hands.
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Post by Mr. Socko's Brother on Jun 8, 2011 20:23:00 GMT -5
Eh, the Pantheon crippled Seth's wife and took over his company by force, which in its own way is just as over the top as his threats. I'd say he has just cause for vowing brutal vengeance. The Undertaker did it all the time with less provocation and he's an American treasure. Of course, Taker did also terrorize and kidnap Stephanie (long before she turned heel), torture Christian for failing him, try to murder Paul Bearer for no reason to cite an example that didn't happen during the Ministry angle, and a lot of other stuff. Right now, the Pantheon are indisputably heels, and this feud isn't quite heel vs. heel. But if the players in this feud start behaving differently, then it'll be a different story. For example--and I don't think I'll be spoiling anything since this isn't going to happen--after I told him what had been going on lately some weeks back, CageKing talked about possibly turning face, and starting by going to Drakin and saying "I'm sorry for what I did, you're entitled to some payback, and I'm here to take whatever beating you want to give me like a man." I said "Well the thing is that he doesn't just want to beat you up, he wants to literally torture you to death." So that was abandoned. But if CageKing did that, he'd come across as a face, even though I believe he took part in the attack that hospitalized the Drakins.
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Post by Mr. Socko's Brother on Jun 8, 2011 20:24:36 GMT -5
(Sits in the rafters) Heh Heh Heh....It's great to back everybody. I'm back for now, and hopefully I can start off with a bang for The Pantheon. Whenever my return match is, It'll be in the one match I've never lost: Lodi's Rulz. That is, if it's ok with Socko. Yeah, that's fine. Now I just have to figure out when and against whom...
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Jun 8, 2011 20:26:18 GMT -5
I dunno, Socko. In character, it may take a lot for me to end up telling Seth that he's on his own. And again, as far as my character is concerned, if something bad were to happen to Shaelin Marie, I may end up completely unhinged to the point where I go on an obsessive quest for vengeance as well.
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Johnny B. Decent
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Jun 8, 2011 20:28:46 GMT -5
Uhh with this Seth/Pantheon feud, is anyone else finding it hard to accept Seth as the face in peril? I mean sure we have been total bastards cheating and assaulting people for our power. But we're heels. Then there' Seth, who since day one of returning has actually said he wants to break our necks and yes, actually murder us. I mean ultimately Pantheon are just doing what they can to advance their careers in an admittedly douchebag way. Seth is making death threats... When he did the "Argh, I'm going kill you dead" promo to me, I was actually laughing before I responded. It's too silly to me.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2011 21:04:43 GMT -5
So 2 things
1. I'm not abandoning the idea of me possibly turning face.....it's just that with my #1 contenders match coming up and the fact that I was part of the ambush (Can someone find it for me? I actually want to read it), theres really no room for me to turn face although I did tease it a bit in my match against Colt
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2. I would like to invite anyone (Face or Heel) for a promo on the upcoming show. I would like to evolve my own personal storyline even for a little moment, and help me gain some momentum towards my match against Caleb
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Jun 8, 2011 21:16:30 GMT -5
I find it hard to see how Seth ISN'T the face in this, The Pantheon horribly injured Seth and his WIFE, for Pete's sake.
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Post by Mr. Socko's Brother on Jun 8, 2011 21:17:33 GMT -5
If nobody else takes you up on it (I think Caleb would be the best person to do a segment with), Blood can participate in the promo, although I'm not sure what him and CageKing would talk about.
Also, here's the segment with the attack, from the April 14th NiteRaw:
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Post by hossfan on Jun 8, 2011 21:23:44 GMT -5
So 2 things 1. I'm not abandoning the idea of me possibly turning face.....it's just that with my #1 contenders match coming up and the fact that I was part of the ambush (Can someone find it for me? I actually want to read it), theres really no room for me to turn face although I did tease it a bit in my match against Colt and 2. I would like to invite anyone (Face or Heel) for a promo on the upcoming show. I would like to evolve my own personal storyline even for a little moment, and help me gain some momentum towards my match against Caleb Well, Caleb accepted your offer to meet at the next show, so if you want feel free to PM me your ideas and we can put something together.
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Johnny B. Decent
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Jun 8, 2011 21:43:44 GMT -5
It's been over a year? Wow, time flies.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Jun 8, 2011 21:51:32 GMT -5
I think my character likes to exagerate on what is going to happen, but suffice to say........it is going to take a strong beatdown before Seth's vengeance for each is quenched. Maybe eventually Jessica can regain her voice and convince Seth to stop.
But yeah, Seth's actions are meant to cross the line. You gotta remember that several years ago, Seth did cane a referee in front of his family because Seth believed his unwillingness to stop the fight caused Seth to miss a month. He also put a bounty on LN's head for taking him out for two months. As far as getting revenge, Seth has never been sane about the whole thing.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Jun 9, 2011 11:33:30 GMT -5
While I was on my drive to work, I figured out a perfect move Seth could do as an Orton punt-like injury move that might take at least a week to recover from...a violent Curb Stomp (ala Paul Burchill). Basically Seth could do it pretty much to every member of the Pantheon as his way of vengeance.
There are a few names for the move I am thinking of.
* Harbinger of Vengeance * I4I * Score Settler * Atrocity Payment
If you have any name ideas, please tell me.
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Fiddleford H. McGucket
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Post by Fiddleford H. McGucket on Jun 9, 2011 11:34:30 GMT -5
I like I4I
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Post by Mr. Socko's Brother on Jun 9, 2011 12:19:45 GMT -5
I second I4I.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Jun 9, 2011 14:07:32 GMT -5
Looks like it will be called I4I, unless anyone has any other ideas.
Honestly, I decided this might be the way to go because I understood your questions about Seth being a face despite his desire to kill people and I figured this would be middle ground between Seth going overboard in killing people and Seth just trying to beat people for his vengeance.
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