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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2010 12:42:22 GMT -5
Did this turn into a comedy thread since last time I checked it? Arguing that caffeine somehow nullifies someones straight edginess, really? Really?
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Post by Piccolo on Nov 28, 2010 20:36:25 GMT -5
If I were to go out and ask ten people on the street what "I don't do drugs" referred to, I'm willing to bet that not a single one of them would include "not drinking caffeinated soda". By colloquial usage, the phrase is used to refer to not using illegal, mind-altering drugs, or abusing prescription medication. It's a lot easier to say "drug-free" than that. If you have a problem with colloquial usage of words and phrases, then your problem extends a lot farther than this discussion. Yep. "Drug" means different things depending on how you use it. It's important for people to use context clues and be sensitive to colloquial or professional usage of terms when attempting to dictate absolutes about what a word means.
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Post by "Hollywood" Cactus Matt on Nov 28, 2010 20:56:19 GMT -5
Just for the record, I'm not trying to take sides, but in regards to caffeine, it is indeed "mind-altering." I need at least one cup of strong coffee in the morning to function in my normal way; thus, it alters my mind. (and body as well.) Don't believe it's altering? Give some Mountain Dew to a toddler and watch what happens.
As for Punk vs. Jeff, or straight-edge vs. whatever-else: I'm not against certain drugs, but I am against others. So whatever that makes me, then I guess that's what I am. Jeff Hardy is kind of an idiot for making this video, and for someone who's "over" his ex, Matt sure does talk about her a lot.
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Post by flatsdomino on Nov 28, 2010 21:05:02 GMT -5
Okay, I just wanted to join in to say that I'm sort of horrified that there are people who think that "Well, he thinks he's so high and mighty because he looks down on people who abuses perscription drugs or hard drugs like cocaine, but he drinks PEPSI so he's obviously a hypocrite" is not just a legitimate argument, but aomething you shouldn't be ashamed to say out loud.
Also, this video is really really uncmfortable to watch, like the video of David Hasslehoff eating a burger off the floor. It's just really unnerving. The way he keeps twitching, slurring and sniffing....ugh...I like Jeff too, but come on...
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Post by JCBaggee on Nov 29, 2010 12:29:57 GMT -5
This is from the Wrestlezone article. Anyone else LOL at this? I did, and got this image of Punk having difficulty sleeping and trying to figure out how to GTS himself.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2010 12:58:58 GMT -5
Caffeine is a drug just like any other, and for the record people have OD'ed and even died from abusing it. People can OD on oxygen too.
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Post by VengeanceGOD on Nov 29, 2010 13:02:21 GMT -5
Here's a weird thing to add to the debate: Caffeine has no effect on me at all. Doesn't wake me up, doesn't make me feel any different, no matter the amount. When I was pulling all-nighters in college, I tried caffeine pills and it did nothing. And energy drinks just make me more tired. (Five hour energy, for example, just knocked me right out.)
On the other hand, while I've never tried them, I'm pretty sure weed and all the other drugs out there would effect me in some discernible way.
Not really sure what that means for the debate, but just putting it out there.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Nov 29, 2010 13:17:28 GMT -5
Here's a weird thing to add to the debate: Caffeine has no effect on me at all. Doesn't wake me up, doesn't make me feel any different, no matter the amount. When I was pulling all-nighters in college, I tried caffeine pills and it did nothing. And energy drinks just make me more tired. (Five hour energy, for example, just knocked me right out.)Not to be a dick, but isn't that an effect on you? Sure, it's not the intended effect, but still...
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Post by FUNK_US/BRODUS on Nov 29, 2010 13:29:44 GMT -5
On a side note, I love how everyone seemed to get excited when Jeff gave two fingers to the camera. Im sure Punk saw that and cried himself to sleep.
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Post by T.J. "the Crippler" Stevens on Nov 29, 2010 13:30:43 GMT -5
Holy Semantics, Batman!!
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Post by Captain Charisma on Nov 29, 2010 14:01:35 GMT -5
Maybe since Hardy tried to tarnish CM Punk's reputation, CM Punk should release a video doing the same to him. Coming soon to a Waffle House near you... 'Jeff Hardy takes no drugs when he gets injured wrestling, motherf***er. That's straight edge, if you didn't know it.' Edge in the background eating grapes.
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Post by FUNK_US/BRODUS on Nov 29, 2010 14:25:56 GMT -5
Maybe since Hardy tried to tarnish CM Punk's reputation, CM Punk should release a video doing the same to him. Coming soon to a Waffle House near you... 'Jeff Hardy takes no drugs when he gets injured wrestling, motherf***er. That's straight edge, if you didn't know it.' Edge in the background eating grapes. Part of me thinks Punk will do one of 2 things. A) Nothing. B) Tweet a link to it with "LOL" as a caption.
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Post by VengeanceGOD on Nov 29, 2010 14:52:19 GMT -5
Here's a weird thing to add to the debate: Caffeine has no effect on me at all. Doesn't wake me up, doesn't make me feel any different, no matter the amount. When I was pulling all-nighters in college, I tried caffeine pills and it did nothing. And energy drinks just make me more tired. (Five hour energy, for example, just knocked me right out.)Not to be a dick, but isn't that an effect on you? Sure, it's not the intended effect, but still... I...I... DAMN YOUR LOGIC!
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Nov 29, 2010 14:55:13 GMT -5
Just as another reply to the 'Lita wasn't that popular' argument.
Of her 4 Womens' Titles, 2 were won in the main event of RAW, one against Stephanie, one against Trish, No other woman has headlined 2 shows in matches.
As for 'Babe of the year' victories, are we really counting those? Plus Trish is more traditionally beautiful in the Pam Anderson, Farrah Fawcett blonde big boobed way so it's not exactly surprising she'd win the beauty contests.
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Nov 29, 2010 15:11:40 GMT -5
Good grief. I haven't checked this thread in 3 days and all of the sudden there's a debate on caffeine. Who cares? it's technically a drug, but so's regular over the counter and prescription medicine. just don't be a dumbass. Just as another reply to the 'Lita wasn't that popular' argument. Of her 4 Womens' Titles, 2 were won in the main event of RAW, one against Stephanie, one against Trish, No other woman has headlined 2 shows in matches. As for 'Babe of the year' victories, are we really counting those? Plus Trish is more traditionally beautiful in the Pam Anderson, Farrah Fawcett blonde big boobed way so it's not exactly surprising she'd win the beauty contests. yeah, but now she's a smaller boobed brunette and still hot. Now she's hot in the Angelina Jolie type of way.
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Post by The Ichi on Nov 29, 2010 15:16:39 GMT -5
Okay, I just wanted to join in to say that I'm sort of horrified that there are people who think that "Well, he thinks he's so high and mighty because he looks down on people who abuses perscription drugs or hard drugs like cocaine, but he drinks PEPSI so he's obviously a hypocrite" is not just a legitimate argument, but aomething you shouldn't be ashamed to say out loud. Also, this video is really really uncmfortable to watch, like the video of David Hasslehoff eating a burger off the floor. It's just really unnerving. The way he keeps twitching, slurring and sniffing....ugh...I like Jeff too, but come on... Whoa whoa whoa...rewind a lil. There's a video of Hoff eating a burger off the floor?
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Post by Branimal on Nov 29, 2010 15:18:41 GMT -5
As much as I want to jump on the Jeff Hardy hate train, Jeff was instrumental in getting Punk over as a heel. However, Jeff doesn't have to be a douche about it.
I find it astounding how my opinion on the Hardys has drastically changed within the past year. I'm getting to the point where I dislike them both.
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Post by FUNK_US/BRODUS on Nov 29, 2010 15:30:47 GMT -5
As much as I want to jump on the Jeff Hardy hate train, Jeff was instrumental in getting Punk over as a heel. However, Jeff doesn't have to be a douche about it. I find it astounding how my opinion on the Hardys has drastically changed within the past year. I'm getting to the point where I dislike them both. All Jeff had to do was be there. Punk carried the promo-side of that feud.
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Post by mrsocko on Nov 29, 2010 15:46:21 GMT -5
An analysis:
JH: What’s straight edge mean again? The first straight edge world heavyweight champion. I think Christian said it best... erm... CM Punk, I think you’re a nerd.
Ooh, big scary Jeff Hardy calling Punk a nerd! This is like when Michael Cole calls Danielson a nerd, it just comes across as really kiddie. I wonder if CM Punk is crying huge tears into his glass of Pepsi Raw? Crying until his tear-ducts burn because a drug-wreck called him a nerd... Crying like a child who’s been left in a supermarket... you can play by the escalators all you want kid, but your mum’s never coming back...
JH: I get cocky every now and then, say you pay to see me, you pay to see me, but... I made CM Punk a motherf***ing superstar... and that’s a fact, Jack... and I went in like this {raises middle finger]... baaaaannng!
At this point Hardy has laid it all on the line, he made Punk into a superstar, a superstar who seems to have gained his fame from copulating with his mother. Hardy then makes reference to that time when he “went in like this” and all the sycophants that surround the Hardy’s went “ooooh” like they were eleven and someone said a swear near a teacher... “oooh... you’re naughty.” On a serious note, I’m not how one would go in like that, but it seems pretty creepy to me. “Baannng!”
JH: You can’t do that shit in your company anymore, but in this world [makes a triangle with hands], you can do it all we want to. You should follow me, you should listen to my preaching because it’s gonna get you through life; it’ll make you live life the right way.
From this, it would seem that Jeff Hardy believes that triangles are banned from the WWE. The reasons for this are not explained by Hardy, but one must assume that WWE fear lawsuits for the use of triangles (though they do have the rights to use the logically impossible square-circle). I think what Hardy is saying here is that if you follow Hardy, you will transcend geometry.
JH: Your way’s not the right way, brother. That’s what’s cool about planet Earth; we’re all different. If we were all like you, man, I would rather live on Pluto.
If we were all like CM Punk, then Jeff Hardy would rather live on a fictional cartoon dog? Now, I don’t want to come across as preachy, but if you’d rather live on a cartoon dog than in a world without drugs, then maybe it’s time to consider going straight. I’m not preaching, it’s just a suggestion.
JH: You [points to the cameraman], my friend, are way too cocky; inside and outside of the ring.
At this point I would like to know who is behind the camera? And why is the cameraman so cock inside the ring as well as outside? These questions are never answered.
JH: It’s kinda strange when you go up and see your homeboys at a show... you got guys like Undertaker coming up and saying “hey Jeff, how’re you doin’, man?” all these other guys going “hey Jeff, how’s it going for you, man, you alright?” [incomprehensible] CM never even say hello to me, never did, walk away [mumbles] I just leave [mumbles] f*** that guy.
Wow, Jeff Hardy is pissed off because someone who doesn’t like him at his old work place didn’t go over to him and pretend to like him. How insecure is this guy? I’ve worked at places and have hated people, that’s part of working in a place with other people in. He then descends into the mumbling grumpiness of an old wino, no doubt reaching down to can of Special Brew for a dirty swig once the camera cuts.
JH: I just have one message for CM Punk [raises both middle fingers], f*** you.
The way Hardy delivers his swears here reminds me of someone who has just learnt a naughty word and feels assured with himself that by its mere utterance, the recipient of said swear will not be able to fathom, nigh, comprehend a word of such power and magnitude.
JH: I made you the straight edge superstar that you are, and I still don’t believe that because I think you take Ambien to go to sleep motherf***er [laughs], that’s a prescription if you didn’t know it, so hey-woah.
So hey-woah, Mr Punk, you’ve been hey-woahed, baby. Whatcha gonna do now? I feel sorry for Punk: he’s been accused of having sex with his mother, of being banned from triangles, of making Jeff want to live on a cartoon dog, of taking prescription drugs; he’s been told to f*** him, and now, with the final nail, the final barb of poison, he’s been hey-woahed... Jeff, you’ve crossed a line.
We then cut to Mr Sleepy, AKA Fat “Matt” Hardy, who somehow manages to piece together these words of wisdom in the same way a retarded kid would piece together the entrails of dead bird, believing them to be a jigsaw puzzle.
MH: I have no idea what CM Punk’s deal is with Amy Dumas.
It’s pronounced dumb ass, dumb ass.
MH: But I do know [falls asleep......wakes up] he’s a very dramatic and very emotional. Anytime she finds herself in a tough spot, I’m the guy she calls.
... and this is why CM Punk is better than you.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2010 15:50:52 GMT -5
Little known fact:
CM Punk was actually the guy that filmed this and posted it on youtube.
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