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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Nov 23, 2010 21:01:01 GMT -5
I worry for Jeff,
Seriously, TNA know he's got problems, they should suspend the idiot and get him into rehab as soon as possible before something more serious happens.
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Post by againstnexus on Nov 23, 2010 21:02:23 GMT -5
Why do people think they're in positions to make these judgments? No offense but we have no idea what state he's in in this video - he's likely simply drunk and if so he's well over 21 and can have a drink if he feels like it. These "I'll be happy when he gets arrested because xxx" when we really have no idea of any detail in his life currently is absurd. I've seen drugs ruin too many people's lives, that's why. He's way more than drunk in this video. It's pretty obvious to me that he's on cocaine. Cocaine is one hell of a drug, let me tell you. My own family fell apart because of that drug. It's a terrible, terrible, terrible substance. I even did it myself when I was younger and I'm glad I was able to get away from it. Unlike what Jeff says, it is NOT the path to go down, and I'm 100% certain I will be proven right sometime in the future. How many wrestlers have to die from drug overdoses before people start understanding this? I hope the younger folks out there will head this warning. I GUARANTEE you in 5 years, CM Punk will be much more successful and respected than Jeff Hardy will be. I'm not sure where you see things in this video that lead you to make such a sure diagnosis that he's on cocaine. From my experiences with alcohol it seems likely that he's just drunk. There's nothing there that sends off any alarms to me and I've been around drugs my life as well. I just think people should keep their out-there internet diagnosis to themselves, especially when, such as in this case, they have the potential to be way off the mark and damaging to one's character. I don't know that Punk will ever surpass Hardy as far as successes or anything goes, he has a long way to go to meet Hardy's insane overness. Anyway, my point is that debating the content of the video is fine, even mentioning that he's clearly under the influence is fine as well, but this e-diagnosis is silly.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2010 21:02:28 GMT -5
I agree with the absurdity of wishing the guy will go to jail, but in this video he is clearly on something quite a bit stronger than alcohol. Look at his eyes. I get like that if I'm drinking harder stuff. I just don't think any of us have the facts or evidence to make any kind of call based on this video. If there was drug paraphernalia in the background or something yeah, but there's nothing in this video that sends up a flag that would make me immediately jump to a harder drug. You're right there is no way anyone here can say what exactly Jeff is on in this video. His pupils, however are somewhat constricted, which points to something besides alcohol. Let's just agree that dude needs to get his stuff straight, if for no other reason than for his family.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Nov 23, 2010 21:02:41 GMT -5
Jeff's just about reached Roberts/Hall/Jannetty levels. And I first saw Matt in the background and thought, "okay, at least he's not going to do anything stupid this time..." Guess I spoke too soon.
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Post by againstnexus on Nov 23, 2010 21:03:05 GMT -5
I worry for Jeff, Seriously, TNA know he's got problems, they should suspend the idiot and get him into rehab as soon as possible before something more serious happens. Unless he's just drinking. I haven't read any reports of him showing up to any kind of TNA show under the influence of anything or whatever. People are just making wild assumptions.
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Post by Schemer on Nov 23, 2010 21:05:57 GMT -5
Hey Matt... Get over it, you freaking loser! Christ, I broke up with my girlfriend a few years ago over a similar issue. Get the f*** over it!
Hey Jeff... Go pop and snort and shoot and whatever else you do, you talentless waste. I have no clue how the hell you got over.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Nov 23, 2010 21:07:00 GMT -5
Jeff.........you claim to have made CM Punk a superstar? Here's the thing Jeff, when you two were feuding............CM Punk had already been a world champion (actually was world champion before your drugged up self was), so I don't think you made Punk anything.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Nov 23, 2010 21:07:15 GMT -5
Just when you think it couldn't get any worst of the Hardys, they keep putting out videos to prove me wrong. I can sadly say that less than 4 years from now, a Hardy tribute thread is going to show up on the Crap.
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Post by bob on Nov 23, 2010 21:07:43 GMT -5
the only thing in that mess that many any sense was when Jeff said that he main Punk a mainevent player
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Post by percymania on Nov 23, 2010 21:07:54 GMT -5
I've seen drugs ruin too many people's lives, that's why. He's way more than drunk in this video. It's pretty obvious to me that he's on cocaine. Cocaine is one hell of a drug, let me tell you. My own family fell apart because of that drug. It's a terrible, terrible, terrible substance. I even did it myself when I was younger and I'm glad I was able to get away from it. Unlike what Jeff says, it is NOT the path to go down, and I'm 100% certain I will be proven right sometime in the future. How many wrestlers have to die from drug overdoses before people start understanding this? I hope the younger folks out there will head this warning. I GUARANTEE you in 5 years, CM Punk will be much more successful and respected than Jeff Hardy will be. I'm not sure where you see things in this video that lead you to make such a sure diagnosis that he's on cocaine. From my experiences with alcohol it seems likely that he's just drunk. There's nothing there that sends off any alarms to me and I've been around drugs my life as well. I just think people should keep their out-there internet diagnosis to themselves, especially when, such as in this case, they have the potential to be way off the mark and damaging to one's character. I don't know that Punk will ever surpass Hardy as far as successes or anything goes, he has a long way to go to meet Hardy's insane overness. Anyway, my point is that debating the content of the video is fine, even mentioning that he's clearly under the influence is fine as well, but this e-diagnosis is silly. I've spent WAY too much time around coke addicts in my younger day. My own father was one. He didn't stop until he overdosed and passed out behind the wheel of a car. Luckily, he (or anyone else) wasn't hurt and thankfully he was arrested and that's what finally helped straighten him out. Look how many times he sniffs and pinches his nose in this video. It's a tell-tale sign of cocaine use. We already know he has a history with the drug, so it's not like this is far-reaching at all. I understand as a fan you want to defend him, but as a fan you should be more concerned for his well being. And why should I keep my opinions to myself? HE IS THE ONE PUTTING THIS OUT THERE ON THE INTERNET! He's asking for it.
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Post by spartan on Nov 23, 2010 21:08:30 GMT -5
Can't wait for that criminal to be in prison. And Matt seems to be down the same path.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Nov 23, 2010 21:12:29 GMT -5
I'm not sure where you see things in this video that lead you to make such a sure diagnosis that he's on cocaine. From my experiences with alcohol it seems likely that he's just drunk. There's nothing there that sends off any alarms to me and I've been around drugs my life as well. I just think people should keep their out-there internet diagnosis to themselves, especially when, such as in this case, they have the potential to be way off the mark and damaging to one's character. I don't know that Punk will ever surpass Hardy as far as successes or anything goes, he has a long way to go to meet Hardy's insane overness. Anyway, my point is that debating the content of the video is fine, even mentioning that he's clearly under the influence is fine as well, but this e-diagnosis is silly. Agreed. I remember people diagnosing Matt as being on something when he first started "losing it" on YouTube. Yet he was still employed for two or three months, with no drug suspension. If there was any suspicion he was abusing something in the public forum, he would have been Wellnessed. WWE would have been insane not to have tested him.
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Post by Marky Mark on Nov 23, 2010 21:14:57 GMT -5
Jeff's antics are pretty pathetic, but at least his reputation's salvageable since everyone attributes it to drugs. Matt's just a creepy whiny weirdo. I used to mark for him, now it's really hard to like him.
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Post by flatsdomino on Nov 23, 2010 21:15:50 GMT -5
Jeff didn't "make" Punk. It could've been a feud with Cena, it could've been HHH, it could've been HBK, it could've been that feud with Batista in 2008. Jeff was the right guy at the right time, and was only special BECAUSE he was a known druggie. And that's NOTHING to be proud of.
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Post by iRabbit on Nov 23, 2010 21:16:07 GMT -5
I believe someone managed to get Punk's thoughts on the video: Beat me to it! Honestly...I'm surprised there haven't been more of these.... I find it most entertaining that they seem to be in a Waffle House while filming this..shows what environment THEY live in
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Nov 23, 2010 21:18:45 GMT -5
Until Punk is arrested and faces serious jail time for drug charges, he'll be better than Jeff Hardy.
So basically, he'll always be better than Jeff Hardy.
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Post by Sharpy Snow on Nov 23, 2010 21:18:50 GMT -5
Both of them need help imo. Jeff to save what is left of his braincells from drug abuse and Matt from 5 years of emotional trauma that he is trying to mask with eating.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Nov 23, 2010 21:19:49 GMT -5
"Fame was like a drug. But what was really like a drug was all the drugs" -Jeff Hardy*
*probably
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Post by Marky Mark on Nov 23, 2010 21:20:48 GMT -5
The funniest part of the video is Matt mentioning that CM Punk is very dramatic and emotional.
Matt Hardy accusing someone else of being dramatic and emotional.
Yeah.
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Post by Alex Shelley on Nov 23, 2010 21:22:18 GMT -5
There's so much anger here. Can't we all just get along?
Whether it's "just alcohol" or if it something harder, IMO once you reach the point where you're making videos yelling at other people while you're obviously on something, I think that's where it's clear you need help. I hope Jeff gets the help he needs. I really do.
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