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Post by saintpat on Nov 24, 2010 0:28:11 GMT -5
This is Jeff's brain on drugs.
His whole life really started going downhill when the meth lab blew up and killed his dog.
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Post by Alex Shelley on Nov 24, 2010 0:59:02 GMT -5
I don't see why there has to be so much hate here.
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Post by deancubed on Nov 24, 2010 1:01:44 GMT -5
What Jeff doesn't seem to understand is the REAL difference between Jeff Hardy and CM Punk is NOT who got who over, who was a better champion, who was a dick to who, or even who is on drugs.
The difference between Punk and Jeff is a simple one: CM Punk understands that wrestling, and the WWE in particular, naturally makes kids want to be like you. Heel or face, the most respected superstars are the ones who realize that people look up to them, and who (heel or face) set the best example for kids on national television.
And the difference between TNA and WWE, much like Hardy and Punk, is that one embraces 'wrasslin' as a form of entertainment catering to violence-hungry 20-somethings, and one embraces 'sports entertainment' as a form of entertainment catering to families and fans of all ages, with appropriate content throughout. Even if WWE was still catering to an older audience, it is the people they employ who tend to set the best examples.
I mean, which list of wrestlers would you rather your kids watch?
Rey Mysterio Big Show John Cena Kofi Kingston MVP CM Punk Chris Jericho
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Jeff Hardy Abyss Raven Kurt Angle Matt Morgan Ken Anderson RVD
Which group is going to set the better example?
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Nov 24, 2010 1:13:16 GMT -5
Sure is a lot of Haterade around here tonight. Jeff and Matt have problems, big deal. Try being cheated on by the love of your life or being addicted to cocaine. That stuff makes you mental. I pity the people here who chose to gloat and call names more than I pity those two. Thankfully this place isn't totally devoid of empathy or compassion. All the superior stuff killed the lulz. I doubt they made this video at gunpoint. Ex girlfriend issues? Fine. It happens. Drug problem? Regrettable, but not altogether uncommon. Keep it to yourselves. The world doesn't need to see it documented every time one of these pathetic children have a random thought run through their minds. These children are both in their thirties, by the way. Wanna toot up and make fun of Punk? Then they should, if it makes them feel better. It's pathetic, but at least it's private. But film it and put it online for the world and you open yourself up to all manners of (well deserved) mockery. And no jokes or remarks that anyone on this forum could make about Matt and Jeff could embarass them more than they have already embarassed themselves by making this video. I don't believe that they actually made that video themselves. My understanding was that a fan recognized them at the Waffle House and shot this video rather than the Hardy's.
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Post by James McCloud IS John Godot on Nov 24, 2010 1:18:04 GMT -5
I don't see why there has to be so much hate here. A lot of people are hating because they're so frustrated with the Hardy brothers. People liked Matt and Jeff. They did. I did. And Matt in particular got a wee bit more stick than was warranted, but what the hell is this? I mean it's obvious why people are implying what they're implying about Jeff, right? To ignore that for the sake of some warped sense of decorum would be intellectually dishonest. There is a lot of frustration here. I'm pretty miffed that a man currently charged with drug trafficking thinks he has any moral high ground when it comes to any sort of substance use. I'm pretty miffed that Matt Hardy continues to feel that his person relationships are fodder for public-targeted YouTube videos and then complains when people talk about them. I'm pretty miffed that Jeff thinks he was the one who "made" CM Punk when wrestling has always been a collaborative effort. I'm pretty miffed that Matt thinks making sly digs about peoples relationships is a good idea. I'm pretty miffed that this vendetta or whatever you want to call it is being dragged out in the open for all of us to see because the Hardys, despite being famed pro wrestlers, still have their need for 15 minutes of e-fame. And I'm sure as hell miffed at the idea that I'm supposed to take all of that and not have a negative reaction to it at all!
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Nov 24, 2010 1:19:53 GMT -5
I don't see why there has to be so much hate here. They go out of their way to act, sound, and look like douchebags in any possible opportunity for positive publicity. What's not to dislike? Jeff's an unrepentant addict, who is now a father to a newborn baby, and Matt's ever whining about Lita. They think they're ten times more important than they actually are, and it's sad to see that they're this far into their own delusions. Hence, vitriol. Especially to people, like myself, who were fans of theirs.
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Post by BlahBlah on Nov 24, 2010 1:21:59 GMT -5
Honestly these guys are just losers at this point. No need to even sugarcoat. Matt Hardy is distraught over a girl that cheated on him five years ago? Wow. EVERY GUY IN THE WORLD has had at least one experience with a bad breakup. Jeff hardy is on drugs that have made him mental.... and I'm supposed to pity him for doing that to himself? Eff that. Self-control. The only thing about this that makes me remotely sad is that Jeff has a child now and now more than ever should man up and stfu.
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Post by percymania on Nov 24, 2010 1:23:59 GMT -5
I don't see why there has to be so much hate here. I don't think there is a lot of hate. What I see is a lot of fans who want these guys to get help. We've lost too many of our idols over the years and we don't want these guys to be next. My main hope is that the younger fans see this and realize how dangerous drugs can be. I imagine some Jeff Hardy fans look up to him and say "Look, he does drugs - but he's successful and seems to have control of his life, so why can't I do the same?" The problem is, 98% of the time it doesn't work out that way. Most drug addicts end up dead, in prison, or on the street homeless. That's reality. And the Hardy Boys are on the fast track to one of those places as well. I hope younger fans will realize this before they make bad decisions in their own lives. If that message gets through to just one person reading this topic, then I would be ecstatic.
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Post by percymania on Nov 24, 2010 1:26:13 GMT -5
I doubt they made this video at gunpoint. Ex girlfriend issues? Fine. It happens. Drug problem? Regrettable, but not altogether uncommon. Keep it to yourselves. The world doesn't need to see it documented every time one of these pathetic children have a random thought run through their minds. These children are both in their thirties, by the way. Wanna toot up and make fun of Punk? Then they should, if it makes them feel better. It's pathetic, but at least it's private. But film it and put it online for the world and you open yourself up to all manners of (well deserved) mockery. And no jokes or remarks that anyone on this forum could make about Matt and Jeff could embarass them more than they have already embarassed themselves by making this video. I don't believe that they actually made that video themselves. My understanding was that a fan recognized them at the Waffle House and shot this video rather than the Hardy's. You bring up and interesting point, because this video is heavily edited. I wonder if the person that captured was purposely trying to make them look bad.
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Post by celticjobber on Nov 24, 2010 1:33:52 GMT -5
At this point, The Hardyz are basically on the same level as wrestlers like Iron Sheik and Jamie Dundee.
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Post by noleafclover1980 on Nov 24, 2010 1:33:54 GMT -5
Jeff.... you do know that SES CM Punk is a gimmick, and not real right?
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Post by Alex Shelley on Nov 24, 2010 1:38:16 GMT -5
I guess I just don't see the point in wasting my energy hating somebody who has done nothing to me personally. If I hated everybody who went on video saying stupid things, I'd hate a lot of people.
Do I feel bad for them? Yes. I think Jeff needs a lot of help. But that doesn't mean I'm personally offended by him. I'm just a fan. He doesn't owe it to me to be a good person.
Matt's whining - who cares? Nobody's forcing anybody to watch it. He wants attention, and people are giving it to him. If you are annoyed with him, stop saying anything about it. Don't feed the troll.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Nov 24, 2010 1:40:02 GMT -5
I guess I just don't see the point in wasting my energy hating somebody who has done nothing to me personally. If I hated everybody who went on video saying stupid things, I'd hate a lot of people. Do I feel bad for them? Yes. I think Jeff needs a lot of help. But that doesn't mean I'm personally offended by him. I'm just a fan. He doesn't owe it to me to be a good person. Matt's whining - who cares? Nobody's forcing anybody to watch it. He wants attention, and people are giving it to him. If you are annoyed with him, stop saying anything about it. Don't feed the troll. Jeeff doesn't owe it to you, or me, but you have to agree he owes it to his freakin' baby.
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Post by Alex Shelley on Nov 24, 2010 1:42:45 GMT -5
Oh, absolutely he owes it to the child. It's depressing as hell that any child is going to grow up with a father like that.
I had given Jeff the benefit of the doubt about getting clean. He clearly hasn't. Like I've said, I hope that he gets help, for his sake and for that poor kid.
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Post by Wolfaga on Nov 24, 2010 1:43:14 GMT -5
Do the Hardy's even read these boards? We're not even feeding said trolls if what the people are saying is damn right truth
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Nov 24, 2010 1:45:59 GMT -5
Do the Hardy's even read these boards? We're not even feeding said trolls if what the people are saying is damn right truth Well, with Matt, it's subjective. Yeah, he comes off as whiny, but that, sadly, is his prerogative. It's just how he chooses to live, it's not really a "right or wrong" issue. My issue, primarily, is with Jeff, a guy who's facing prosecution for drugs, yet still seems to spend the better part of his time bombed out of his mind, while espousing professional jealousy against a former coworker.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2010 1:49:19 GMT -5
... Jeff had been my favourite wrestler for years. when he finally got the chance to fight for the championship i loved it and when he won it that was one of my favourite wrestling moments ever.
to see what he's been reduced to and the way he is now... its damn near heartbreaking for me. i dont even know the word for the emotion i felt watching that video... i was frustrated, sad, and worried at the same time.
he needs help. he needs a lot of help. to see someone who i loved growing up (me and my friend always dreamed of winning the tag team championships together just like the Hardy's) act like this... attacking someone for essentially no reason... its heartbreaking knowing that there is close to no chance for it to stop without hurting anyone more.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Nov 24, 2010 1:56:00 GMT -5
As far as Matt occasionally pining for Lita goes, I find it remarkable that so many people think that he should be over it. She wasn't just a girlfriend; she was in essence a common law wife. How many people have wives (or husbands) that cheat that never quite get over it? Perhaps all of you think that he is pathetic for not being over it may not have actually been in a relationship that is that involved. It took my mother's death 30 years later for my dad to finally get over her cheating on him. Sometimes the betrayal shakes your core that strongly.
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Post by DrizzlinShytes on Nov 24, 2010 1:56:57 GMT -5
If people in positions of power within TNA can see that video and persist in promoting and enabling Jeff Hardy they should be ashamed of themselves and they might possibly be liable if something terrible happens while they are doing said promoting and enabling.
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Post by Pseudonym on Nov 24, 2010 1:59:32 GMT -5
Cm Punk Is an Asshole, Matt Hardy is an Asshole and Jeff hardy is an asshole. I love Punk and both Hardys... But watching Jeff is just depressing, he needs to get his shit together.
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