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Post by Macho Dude Handy Damage on Dec 25, 2010 17:07:09 GMT -5
Maybe Muhammad Hassan for protesting the racial profiling of Arabs post 9-11? Tell me again how that made him a heel? He's standing up AGAINST racism, and that makes him the bad guy. Are the WWE fans racists? Xenophobic? Or is it a case of the gimmick just going over people's head and they just figured he was supporting the 9-11 attacks?
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 25, 2010 18:09:56 GMT -5
Maybe Muhammad Hassan for protesting the racial profiling of Arabs post 9-11? Tell me again how that made him a heel? He's standing up AGAINST racism, and that makes him the bad guy. Are the WWE fans racists? Xenophobic? Or is it a case of the gimmick just going over people's head and they just figured he was supporting the 9-11 attacks? All of the above. After 9/11, anybody that was "arab" was considered a terrorist. As soon as Hassan's music hit, the crowd booed loudly.
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Post by @TenaciousBe on Dec 25, 2010 20:10:33 GMT -5
Maybe Muhammad Hassan for protesting the racial profiling of Arabs post 9-11? Tell me again how that made him a heel? He's standing up AGAINST racism, and that makes him the bad guy. Are the WWE fans racists? Xenophobic? Or is it a case of the gimmick just going over people's head and they just figured he was supporting the 9-11 attacks? It's the same as Punk being booed for exalting the virtues of an alcohol-free, drug-free lifestyle. WWE = Bizarro World. And if I remember correctly, Hassan and Daivari were originally meant to be faces. But when their introductory vignettes failed to get over, and instead brought out boos after fans got tired of hearing them, the guys were turned heel before they even showed up live for the first time. Perfect example of X-Pac Heat if there ever was one.
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Post by eDemento2099 on Dec 25, 2010 20:27:36 GMT -5
Tell me again how that made him a heel? He's standing up AGAINST racism, and that makes him the bad guy. Are the WWE fans racists? Xenophobic? Or is it a case of the gimmick just going over people's head and they just figured he was supporting the 9-11 attacks? It's the same as Punk being booed for exalting the virtues of an alcohol-free, drug-free lifestyle. WWE = Bizarro World. I think they're two rather different things. Hassan did nothing wrong; he spoke out AGAINST racism and ethnic discrimination. CM Punk, on the other hand, didn't just promote a drug-free lifestyle: he bragged about it and claimed he was superior ('better than') those who did not live his kind of a lifestyle. Besides, Punk is a hypocrite: Pepsi contains caffeine, which is a drug.
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Post by Glitch on Dec 25, 2010 20:31:57 GMT -5
Tell me again how that made him a heel? He's standing up AGAINST racism, and that makes him the bad guy. Are the WWE fans racists? Xenophobic? Or is it a case of the gimmick just going over people's head and they just figured he was supporting the 9-11 attacks? It's the same as Punk being booed for exalting the virtues of an alcohol-free, drug-free lifestyle. WWE = Bizarro World. And if I remember correctly, Hassan and Daivari were originally meant to be faces. But when their introductory vignettes failed to get over, and instead brought out boos after fans got tired of hearing them, the guys were turned heel before they even showed up live for the first time. Perfect example of X-Pac Heat if there ever was one. They were meant to be faces? The vignettes made them look like mean sons of bitches. Just watching the videos gave off a really strong "we hate everybody in america vibe".
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 25, 2010 22:12:49 GMT -5
It's the same as Punk being booed for exalting the virtues of an alcohol-free, drug-free lifestyle. WWE = Bizarro World. And if I remember correctly, Hassan and Daivari were originally meant to be faces. But when their introductory vignettes failed to get over, and instead brought out boos after fans got tired of hearing them, the guys were turned heel before they even showed up live for the first time. Perfect example of X-Pac Heat if there ever was one. They were meant to be faces? The vignettes made them look like mean sons of bitches. Just watching the videos gave off a really strong "we hate everybody in america vibe". They were clearly meant to be heels, he came off as calling everybody racist, and then followed it up with Diavari yelling Farsi aggressively at the camera. Also the original gimmick was he cheated and was otherwise condescending ass to people, and then played that they were booing him not for how he acted but because of his race. Which lasted pretty much until he was traded to smackdown and decided HEY! LETS MAKE HIM A TERRORIST!...
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Post by Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite on Dec 26, 2010 10:19:37 GMT -5
It's the same as Punk being booed for exalting the virtues of an alcohol-free, drug-free lifestyle. WWE = Bizarro World. And if I remember correctly, Hassan and Daivari were originally meant to be faces. But when their introductory vignettes failed to get over, and instead brought out boos after fans got tired of hearing them, the guys were turned heel before they even showed up live for the first time. Perfect example of X-Pac Heat if there ever was one. They were meant to be faces? The vignettes made them look like mean sons of bitches. Just watching the videos gave off a really strong "we hate everybody in america vibe". From Memory, the first few Promos from them had Hassan giving a calm, heartfelt speech and then Davari translating it in the most angry, harsh way possible. I thought that was going to be their gimmick at first
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Post by ICBM on Dec 26, 2010 12:12:35 GMT -5
Kurt Angle wanting Beastalities with Sharmell, I have no idea how the MEM lasting 11 months with that elephant in the room. I thought he wasn't a fan of 'the black people'? He dated Rhaka Khan so i doubt that. Now maybe after the whole deal with Rhaka falsely accusing him of abuse and stealing his house for a month, he may have an issue with Tall female wrestlers who falsely accuse him of abuse and steal his house for a month
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 26, 2010 12:29:29 GMT -5
I thought he wasn't a fan of 'the black people'? He dated Rhaka Khan so i doubt that. Now maybe after the whole deal with Rhaka falsely accusing him of abuse and stealing his house for a month, he may have an issue with Tall female wrestlers who falsely accuse him of abuse and steal his house for a month Nah, the 'not a fan of the black people' thing is referencing a promo Kurt did when feuding with Cena basically saying that he could say anything and still not get booed. He said that, that he'd make Jesus tap out, various other over the top things.
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Post by Crazy Diamond on Dec 26, 2010 17:07:49 GMT -5
He dated Rhaka Khan so i doubt that. Now maybe after the whole deal with Rhaka falsely accusing him of abuse and stealing his house for a month, he may have an issue with Tall female wrestlers who falsely accuse him of abuse and steal his house for a month Nah, the 'not a fan of the black people' thing is referencing a promo Kurt did when feuding with Cena basically saying that he could say anything and still not get booed. He said that, that he'd make Jesus tap out, various other over the top things. I'm surprised people don't hate Kurt Angle after he bashed US soldiers around the same time. The closest I've ever seen to an unforgivable action from a wrestler was Lita cheating on Matt Hardy. I don't know if they booed her when she made a cameo this year though. Also, being fat is unforgivable and so is evil.
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Post by JLAJRC on Dec 26, 2010 17:12:51 GMT -5
I don't think we have ever had a gay face wrestler. All of the people who have done this gimmick have been heels.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Dec 26, 2010 18:32:42 GMT -5
I don't think we have ever had a gay face wrestler. All of the people who have done this gimmick have been heels. For a very brief time, Rico was over huge as a babyface. This was back in 2004. I remember Charlie Haas did a shoot saying, all the people wanted to see was Rico kiss a guy. He was over, and then they released him for no reason. Still to me, it was one of the worst releases in the past decade, he was really good. Orlando Jordan is starting to get some steam as a babyface too, not much yet, but I think overtime, maybe.
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Post by JLAJRC on Dec 27, 2010 17:28:53 GMT -5
I don't think we have ever had a gay face wrestler. All of the people who have done this gimmick have been heels. For a very brief time, Rico was over huge as a babyface. This was back in 2004. I remember Charlie Haas did a shoot saying, all the people wanted to see was Rico kiss a guy. He was over, and then they released him for no reason. Still to me, it was one of the worst releases in the past decade, he was really good. Orlando Jordan is starting to get some steam as a babyface too, not much yet, but I think overtime, maybe. Wasn't he doing a pseudo-Brutus "The Barber" Beefcake thing where he was cutting wrestler's hair during this time? That might be why he was over as a babyface during this time.
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Post by malloc on Dec 27, 2010 18:25:21 GMT -5
Dennis stamp not being booked
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Dec 27, 2010 18:40:24 GMT -5
Not shaking HHH's hand.
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