riseofsetian1981
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Apr 12, 2011 16:30:30 GMT -5
In this day and age people need to stop being politically correct.
In my honest opinion, he was in the wrong. But those kids had it coming and it's time people stop handling kids with these baby gloves. When push comes to shove teachers, parents, and other authority figures allow kids to do and say whatever they want without consequences.
Parents don't want to deal with the kids so they send them to school, the mall, or the movie theatre. Teachers are afraid of doing what is necessary to discipline these kids, so when they grow up they have no understanding of respect or intelligence.
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The Ichi
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Post by The Ichi on Apr 12, 2011 16:32:05 GMT -5
Since when are 14 year olds "kids" anyway?
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Post by Shy Guy on Apr 12, 2011 17:15:41 GMT -5
you're supposed to be a role model. of course you were wrong.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Apr 12, 2011 17:23:47 GMT -5
You were totally in the wrong when you brought ethnicity into it. The comment about the fat kid, really don't care. But, the second you mentioned the kid was Mexican as part of your comeback insult you were screwed buddy. You really should've known better man
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Post by thegigolo on Apr 12, 2011 17:36:55 GMT -5
Yeah, you were pretty wrong. Now you've given parents (I'd sure as hell be pissed.), and your employers a right to be ticked. If you still have your job I'd be surprised.
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Post by noleafclover1980 on Apr 12, 2011 18:22:46 GMT -5
Kids are assholes, this is what happens when parents are too afraid to whip their asses when they need it. Now I agree, should have ran em till they were about to puke.. but go all Vinnie Mac and em "He's... he's gonna PUKE!! HE'S GONNA PUUUUKE!!!"
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Post by Raul on Apr 12, 2011 18:25:00 GMT -5
eh, it was wrong, but I would've done the same thing.
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Post by Red Impact on Apr 12, 2011 18:32:00 GMT -5
You were in the wrong, yes, but those kids were snots who deserved to have someone throw it back at them.
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Post by Efren on Apr 12, 2011 18:47:11 GMT -5
I dont think you were morally wrong, If this had happened on the street Id applaud your comeback regardless of age difference, but you were wrong in a its so f***ing god dam obvious the race bit will get you in deep shit at your job, honestly you are lucky you weren't fired, next time for every insult make em exercise till you break their will.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Apr 12, 2011 18:53:19 GMT -5
Completely wrong. Have you talked to the kids' teachers? Have you gone to your boss and said you refuse to be berated by kids you're trying to help? It seems like there's numerous better routes than what you did.
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El Hijo De Slapnuts
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Post by El Hijo De Slapnuts on Apr 12, 2011 19:06:05 GMT -5
They weren't in the right,but neither were you,man;I'll give you points for creativity,but sinking to their level,especially in such a PC society is not a good reaction.
But I hope you learn from this,and if the situation arises again,just quietly plot your revenge!
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Post by strykerdarksilence on Apr 12, 2011 19:12:01 GMT -5
While I can understand the desire to lash out, yeah, you screwed up somewhat there.
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Post by Square on Apr 12, 2011 19:16:28 GMT -5
Don't worry about it, could be worse. I pinned my boss' 16 year old son up against the wall and gave a tirade of f-bombs...and I work at a church!
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Push R Truth
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Post by Push R Truth on Apr 12, 2011 19:22:25 GMT -5
Since when are 14 year olds "kids" anyway? Since they aren't 18 (in the US anyway)And you should actually feel lucky, because many places would fire you for less
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Post by zeez on Apr 12, 2011 19:41:25 GMT -5
Those kids probably had it coming but you shouldn't have done it. They are minors and your school has an image to uphold and I'm sure they'll have no problem firing you to retain it, especially if the parents starting talking to the press about it or something.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Apr 12, 2011 19:43:34 GMT -5
Don't worry about it, could be worse. I pinned my boss' 16 year old son up against the wall and gave a tirade of f-bombs...and I work at a church! .........that's....awesome? I think. I haven't decided yet
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Post by Square on Apr 12, 2011 19:52:36 GMT -5
Don't worry about it, could be worse. I pinned my boss' 16 year old son up against the wall and gave a tirade of f-bombs...and I work at a church! .........that's....awesome? I think. I haven't decided yet ...I had a rough week and he was climbing on a rickety old metal thing which was gonna break. (Please note I am only 18 so it's not that bad!)
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Post by "The Rated XXX Superstar" Jed on Apr 12, 2011 19:54:48 GMT -5
Since when are 14 year olds "kids" anyway? Anyone under 16 is a kid. And yeah, what those kids said was bogus, but you way handled it the wrong way. I'm sure you just lost your cool and I'm sure your boss understands that and that's why you weren't future endeavored, but you really should have called their parents.
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Post by Glitch on Apr 12, 2011 20:16:12 GMT -5
You should have reported the kid saying "jew" and "holocaust" to the Principle. That way the kid would have experienced all sorts of hell from the staff and his parents for not being "tolerant". Happened all the time at my high school.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Apr 12, 2011 20:54:05 GMT -5
they said was appropriate in any way. However as others have said they way to show them that what they did was wrong, is not to respond in kind. Saying something racist to counter something anti-Semitic? Did no part of your brain stop to think just how stupid that sounds? Sorry to sound harsh but I really wonder how you're even considering the option that your actions were appropriate.
Side Rant: I am getting completely sick of people using the phrase "politically correct" as a catch all for the down fall of order and discipline in America. You know what "politically correct" means to me? It means that white people can no longer call black people the "n word" openly in polite company. More and more it means that the "f word" slang for homosexual is becoming just as offensive to average Americans. It means men can't judge a woman's qualifications for a job based upon her boobs over her experience and education. I don't know about you but to me those are all fantastic things.
On the other hand it has nothing to do with not disciplining children. Sure corporal punishment in schools has ended but that has more to do with the fact that educational experts, pediatricians, psychologists and pretty much any other group of qualified experts on the subject has shown that corporal punishment is counter-effected towards the goal of education than political correctness. Teaching fear and respect? Maybe. But those aren't and should never the be the goal of education.
Maybe the kids in the OP said what they said because no one had ever modeled good behavior for them. And maybe the were never lucky enough to be treated with "kid gloves." Maybe they never had a chance to see a world that was innocent, and soft and beautiful. Maybe the only world they've ever known is harsh and ugly and tough. To me that is very sad. You know who was treated with "kid gloves" as a kid? Me, because I was a kid. Now I'm a well adjusted (generally speaking) 28 year old man.
So should kids be held accountable for their actions? Yes, but not in the way described in the OP. And maybe before attacking them the rational for these kid actions and language should be examined.
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