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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jun 1, 2006 10:35:45 GMT -5
I was wondering if Trips has legit heat for being 'involved' in the Montreal incident with the Canadian fans.
I mean, at the end of Wrestling with Shadows, Mrs. Bret basically rips him a new ass, even though he denied knowing anything about it (which we know couldn't really be true).
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Post by Mike's a Midnight Express Mark on Jun 1, 2006 10:42:27 GMT -5
I figured out he wasn't in on it, so I reprived him of any responsibility. I hate HBK, Hebner, and Vinnie Mac, though.
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Post by CuJ0 Will Keep Dancing on Jun 1, 2006 10:43:49 GMT -5
I actually find that Canadians like HHH, he usually gets some pops everytime he's here.
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Post by forgottensinpwf on Jun 1, 2006 10:48:43 GMT -5
Eh, i still like him.
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Post by shastamcnasty on Jun 1, 2006 10:52:27 GMT -5
Trips is good in my books and I'm Canadian
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Post by The Rookie on Jun 1, 2006 10:52:39 GMT -5
Have you not watched RAW in the last couple of years?
Whenever they go to Toronto or anywhere in Alberta, Trips would get cheers (during his ultra heelish days) and JR would have to contanstly call Canada "Bizzaro Land."
Know a lot of guys who like Triple H, he gets cheers in Canada.
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Post by ddtforever on Jun 1, 2006 11:07:58 GMT -5
This Canadian doesn't like him for many reasons. (His involvement in the Montreal incident; his politicking and holding true talent back; his association with the McMahons only proves he likes to play with the devil; his hundred title reigns, and apparent desire to be a World Champ more than anyone else in history; etc.)
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Jun 1, 2006 11:11:37 GMT -5
Have you not watched RAW in the last couple of years? Whenever they go to Toronto or anywhere in Alberta, Trips would get cheers (during his ultra heelish days) and JR would have to contanstly call Canada "Bizzaro Land." Know a lot of guys who like Triple H, he gets cheers in Canada. bah I hate him anyway.
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Post by The F'N Captain on Jun 1, 2006 11:14:16 GMT -5
All Canadians have pre-show meetings on who to boo, who to cheer, and how many matches to yell "TWO!" during. Ensuring they will always make WWE shake thier heads in confusion.
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Post by Shy Guy on Jun 1, 2006 11:16:09 GMT -5
All Canadians have pre-show meetings on who to boo, who to cheer, and how many matches to yell "TWO!" during. Ensuring they will always make WWE shake thier heads in confusion. the toronto meeting lasts exactly 3.54 seconds longer as we also discuss when to do the wave. seriously though, i'm a fan of triple h. i dont like his repetitive promos or how he ""burries"" talent, but he entertains me with his matches and thats all that matters really. hbk on the other hand....ew.
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Post by shastamcnasty on Jun 1, 2006 11:31:00 GMT -5
This Canadian doesn't like him for many reasons. (His involvement in the Montreal incident; his politicking and holding true talent back; his association with the McMahons only proves he likes to play with the devil; his hundred title reigns, and apparent desire to be a World Champ more than anyone else in history; etc.) Time to defend Trips here!!! First thing, I don't think Trips really knew what was going on in Montreal. He was Micheals sidekick in DX, that's it. If you saw Wrestling with Shadows when Brets ex ripped into Trips, he looked like he was just as shocked of what happened. Holding true talent back? This is the stereotype Trips has been given for a reason I cannot understand. Cena won at WM22 despite what everybody wanted. Shelton Benjamin put on great matches with Trips when he first came to RAW. Just because the "held back talent" doesn't beat Trips, they usually get a push with someone else afterwards, then fail. Trips involvement with the McMahon family proves he likes to play with the devil? Thats ridiculous. A personal life and business can be two different things. Yeah, he married the boss's daughter. So what? Trips probably met Steph more personally during the Corporation angle and they got closer and closer. I doubt Vince liked the idea of Trips being with his daughter at first but probably did things to win him over to the idea like... oh i dunno... MAKING HIS DAUGHTER HAPPY!!! Trips has learned enough about backstage politics and the business. That is how he has backstage power because he learned from the best in Vince. I think Trips main goal is to do what he's told and put some input into the scenario given to him, not change everything to his benefit. ... He has had a lot of title reigns, granted. He has also been the companies top draw for quite a bit. If a title run didn't work for somebody else, they gave it to Trips because he knows how to play the crowd and pull off the top heel role better than anybody in the business right now (JBL a close second). Desire to be World Champ? He could've convinced Vince to give him the title at WM22 just by reading this message board!!! Did he, no. Trips just does his job, and really well. Therefore, he gets title reigns. If you're good at a job, you're going to get chances to go higher up in the company if you work hard at it. Trips busts his ass and that is how he has backstage power. He lives for this business just like Angle, Micheals, Taker and Flair. They do what they're told and if they have suggestions to make the product better for the fans, they mention it. Basically, my point is don't slam people just because of the situation they're in.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Jun 1, 2006 11:34:12 GMT -5
I'm Canadian, and Shawn Michaels is one of my favourite wrestlers.
Stare in awe people.
Anyway, I think it's because HBK was directly involved with the screwing of Bret, and Triple H was just one of HBK's defenders.
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Post by Dr. Marzvon Zombie M.D. on Jun 1, 2006 11:35:53 GMT -5
trips is great in my book and i been to canada
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Post by ddtforever on Jun 1, 2006 11:36:01 GMT -5
This Canadian doesn't like him for many reasons. (His involvement in the Montreal incident; his politicking and holding true talent back; his association with the McMahons only proves he likes to play with the devil; his hundred title reigns, and apparent desire to be a World Champ more than anyone else in history; etc.) Time to defend Trips here!!! First thing, I don't think Trips really knew what was going on in Montreal. He was Micheals sidekick in DX, that's it. If you saw Wrestling with Shadows when Brets ex ripped into Trips, he looked like he was just as shocked of what happened. Holding true talent back? This is the stereotype Trips has been given for a reason I cannot understand. Cena won at WM22 despite what everybody wanted. Shelton Benjamin put on great matches with Trips when he first came to RAW. Just because the "held back talent" doesn't beat Trips, they usually get a push with someone else afterwards, then fail. Trips involvement with the McMahon family proves he likes to play with the devil? Thats ridiculous. A personal life and business can be two different things. Yeah, he married the boss's daughter. So what? Trips probably met Steph more personally during the Corporation angle and they got closer and closer. I doubt Vince liked the idea of Trips being with his daughter at first but probably did things to win him over to the idea like... oh i dunno... MAKING HIS DAUGHTER HAPPY!!! Trips has learned enough about backstage politics and the business. That is how he has backstage power because he learned from the best in Vince. I think Trips main goal is to do what he's told and put some input into the scenario given to him, not change everything to his benefit. ... He has had a lot of title reigns, granted. He has also been the companies top draw for quite a bit. If a title run didn't work for somebody else, they gave it to Trips because he knows how to play the crowd and pull off the top heel role better than anybody in the business right now (JBL a close second). Desire to be World Champ? He could've convinced Vince to give him the title at WM22 just by reading this message board!!! Did he, no. Trips just does his job, and really well. Therefore, he gets title reigns. If you're good at a job, you're going to get chances to go higher up in the company if you work hard at it. Trips busts his ass and that is how he has backstage power. He lives for this business just like Angle, Micheals, Taker and Flair. They do what they're told and if they have suggestions to make the product better for the fans, they mention it. Basically, my point is don't slam people just because of the situation they're in. You're entitled to your opinion, I'm entitled to mine. I've mentioned this on another post, but I believe HHH was in on the Montreal incident. If you watch the tape, as soon as Michaels is declared the winner, HHH is at ringside, keeping himself inbetween Hart and Michaels. All the while, HHH is keeping an eye on Hart to make sure he doesn't go after Michaels. He escorts Hickenbottom all the way to the back. If he wasn't in on it, he wouldn't have been at ringside so quickly, IMO.
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Post by Shy Guy on Jun 1, 2006 11:38:09 GMT -5
I'm Canadian, and Shawn Michaels is one of my favourite wrestlers. Stare in awe people. Anyway, I think it's because HBK was directly involved with the screwing of Bret, and Triple H was just one of HBK's defenders. patoowie! *spits at andrew* i kid i kid. kind of
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Post by shastamcnasty on Jun 1, 2006 11:42:54 GMT -5
Time to defend Trips here!!! First thing, I don't think Trips really knew what was going on in Montreal. He was Micheals sidekick in DX, that's it. If you saw Wrestling with Shadows when Brets ex ripped into Trips, he looked like he was just as shocked of what happened. Holding true talent back? This is the stereotype Trips has been given for a reason I cannot understand. Cena won at WM22 despite what everybody wanted. Shelton Benjamin put on great matches with Trips when he first came to RAW. Just because the "held back talent" doesn't beat Trips, they usually get a push with someone else afterwards, then fail. Trips involvement with the McMahon family proves he likes to play with the devil? Thats ridiculous. A personal life and business can be two different things. Yeah, he married the boss's daughter. So what? Trips probably met Steph more personally during the Corporation angle and they got closer and closer. I doubt Vince liked the idea of Trips being with his daughter at first but probably did things to win him over to the idea like... oh i dunno... MAKING HIS DAUGHTER HAPPY!!! Trips has learned enough about backstage politics and the business. That is how he has backstage power because he learned from the best in Vince. I think Trips main goal is to do what he's told and put some input into the scenario given to him, not change everything to his benefit. ... He has had a lot of title reigns, granted. He has also been the companies top draw for quite a bit. If a title run didn't work for somebody else, they gave it to Trips because he knows how to play the crowd and pull off the top heel role better than anybody in the business right now (JBL a close second). Desire to be World Champ? He could've convinced Vince to give him the title at WM22 just by reading this message board!!! Did he, no. Trips just does his job, and really well. Therefore, he gets title reigns. If you're good at a job, you're going to get chances to go higher up in the company if you work hard at it. Trips busts his ass and that is how he has backstage power. He lives for this business just like Angle, Micheals, Taker and Flair. They do what they're told and if they have suggestions to make the product better for the fans, they mention it. Basically, my point is don't slam people just because of the situation they're in. You're entitled to your opinion, I'm entitled to mine. I've mentioned this on another post, but I believe HHH was in on the Montreal incident. If you watch the tape, as soon as Michaels is declared the winner, HHH is at ringside, keeping himself inbetween Hart and Michaels. All the while, HHH is keeping an eye on Hart to make sure he doesn't go after Michaels. He escorts Hickenbottom all the way to the back. If he wasn't in on it, he wouldn't have been at ringside so quickly, IMO. Trips could've been just trying to calm down a situation that looked like it was going to get ugly or you could be right, I dunno. I'm just basing the Montreal incident on my own perceptions of the guy, what I've saw on TV, documentaries and my minisule knowledge of the business. He could've known and was protecting his buddy or he could've just been protecting is buddy from an angry Bret/Montreal fans... Good point though, I really don't have an argument to it.
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Post by ddtforever on Jun 1, 2006 14:38:15 GMT -5
You're entitled to your opinion, I'm entitled to mine. I've mentioned this on another post, but I believe HHH was in on the Montreal incident. If you watch the tape, as soon as Michaels is declared the winner, HHH is at ringside, keeping himself inbetween Hart and Michaels. All the while, HHH is keeping an eye on Hart to make sure he doesn't go after Michaels. He escorts Hickenbottom all the way to the back. If he wasn't in on it, he wouldn't have been at ringside so quickly, IMO. Trips could've been just trying to calm down a situation that looked like it was going to get ugly or you could be right, I dunno. I'm just basing the Montreal incident on my own perceptions of the guy, what I've saw on TV, documentaries and my minisule knowledge of the business. He could've known and was protecting his buddy or he could've just been protecting is buddy from an angry Bret/Montreal fans... Good point though, I really don't have an argument to it. Another thing we can consider is the fact that HHH was very close to Hickenbottom at this point. Hickenbottom was in on the whole plan, and has since admitted so. So it's hard to believe that he wouldn't have told HHH of the plan, and possibly of his fear of what Bret would do to him. Also, we have to consider that HHH is well known for his backstage politicking. At one time, he was in McMahon's bad books (taking the brunt of the blame for the infamous MSG group hug) and may have been willing to do anything to get back into Vince's good graces. (It's possible, anyway.) If this were true, it may explain why Vince has been so good to HHH over the years since the Montreal incident.
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Jun 1, 2006 14:59:45 GMT -5
As a Canadian since birth,
I don't give a shit about Bret Hart or the Montreal Screwjob.
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Post by Magneto on Jun 1, 2006 15:24:01 GMT -5
Canada hasn't been behind HHH since 2003 when he feuded with the likes of Goldberg and Steiner. Two pretty lackluster workers at the time. Put him against someone really respectable like Benoit, Angle, or Undertaker? And the fans will BOO HHH out of the arena, face or heel.
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Post by HoldingBackTalent aka bugz9987 on Jun 1, 2006 21:52:41 GMT -5
Cheap heat coming up: Who cares, it's Canada. ;D
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