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Post by The Legendary Ring Troll {BLM} on Jan 13, 2011 16:29:53 GMT -5
Couple of problems. A) The UFCs boom period was triggered by Forrest Griffin vs Stephan Bonnar, not to mention Chuck Liddell was a top end draw in 2005-2006 (UFC 66 drew 1.1million PPVs) B) ECW's problem was money, IIRC Heyman wasnt good with finances. C) Why would ECW end up on the USA brand? The key to WWF was name value. They had a boom period in the 80's. ECW was an indy fed drawing hundreds, and then later, low thousands. Stars or no stars, the name WWF was worth much more than the name ECW. Erm...yeah, but what I failed to mention was...umm...Liddell went to WCW in 97 and wound up becoming a full time wrestler in ECW when they bought out WCW. He never was involved in the MMA boom. And The Ultimate Fighter never happened and Forrest Griffin/Stephen Bonner never happened cuz Tough Enough never happened and thats where Dana got the idea from. Yeah, that sounds good. ECW started making money without WWF/WCW taking all their talents. Heyman's mismanagement wasn't as big a deal as they had more money to blow. And...Raven eventually took over finances from Heyman and the fed flourished. And 3)...well, of course, the WWF was about to go out of business and its ratings at the end of its USA run were dismal, so USA dropped them in favor of ECW, who was getting better ratings on Spike TV. I think the Butterfly Effect can explain any potential problems anyone may bring up... |
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Post by ASK HIM on Jan 13, 2011 16:38:48 GMT -5
What if King/ General Manager Regal wasn't disciplined in 2008?
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Post by The Legendary Ring Troll {BLM} on Jan 13, 2011 16:39:54 GMT -5
What if Ric Flair's career ended in that plane crash? Gotta make this one quicker. Umm...god, I'm not familiar with pre-95 WCW too well. I'd like to say Triple H never sees Flair wrestle and doesn't try to follow in his footsteps. DX never happened, Shawn was punished for the Curtain Call and lost the World title to The British Bulldog, who turned into a monster heel and feuded with top faces Bret Hart and The Patriot. Test married Stephanie and is next in line to run WWE. He never roided out and never died young. Sting never became a huge star and was jobbing to Prince Iakea on WCW Saturday Night by this point. Arn Anderson, meanwhile, has the Undertaker role in the WWF towards the end of the 90's as the respected locker room legend, as when he and Tully went as The Brainbusters, they never left. Annnnd...Lex Luger would be getting iced on Impact as the leader of...I dunno...I don't know what he'd name Fourtune instead. And we'd had no one ho had more than 6 World title reigns, that honor held by Ted DiBiase (who took Flair's place in his feuds with Hogan and Savage and finally won the World title numerous times). |
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Post by 4real on Jan 13, 2011 18:09:20 GMT -5
What if King/ General Manager Regal wasn't disciplined in 2008? He would have had a WWE Title match with HHH most likely at Summerslam, Mr Kennedy probably wouldn't have turned face, HHH probably wouldn't have been drafted to Smackdown! The Undertaker probably wouldn't have had time off and Edge most probably wouldn't be a ten time Champion today. What if Mr Kennedy never got injured after winning MITB? |
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Post by ToyfareMark on Jan 13, 2011 18:40:52 GMT -5
Lets make a threads of what butterfly effects could've happened in the WWE if things went another way say: What-if Eddie didn't die? Benoit wouldn't have had a crazed roid-rage that killed his family, Chavo would still have the best gimmick he's ever had, Vickie would have never entered the business and heels would have nothing to exploit during feuds with Mysterio. Not so sure about the Benoit thing. That could have happened regardless. I still think Vickie would have gotten involved somehow. What if Brock Lesnar never left?? Then we dont get JBL, at least not for a good long while. |
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jan 15, 2011 8:48:17 GMT -5
Here's a good one considering how much discussion he gets on the board.
What if David Otunga was never chosen for NXT 1?
I remember that a "leaked" Season 1 list had Kaval on it, so let's put him in instead with say, Carlito as his Pro (Tarver will get R-Truth). Carlito, not giving a rat's ass, doesn't teach Kaval a thing, and only cares when Kaval loses (more often than not, but not as much as Bryan). Coles hates on him as much as he does Bryan for being an Internet favourite. Eventually, he gets eliminated in 5th, ahead of Young, Bryan and Tarver, but behind Sheffield, Slater, Gabriel and the winner Barrett.
Then The Nexus debuts. Same as what actually happened, but instead of Bryan choking Justin Roberts with a tie, Kaval gives him the Warrior's Way from the barricade. Bryan never gets fired and stays in The Nexus. Barrett states only one thing as their bigger picture; To destroy WWE from the inside out. SummerSlam comes around, with The Nexus (Barrett, Bryan, Kaval, Gabriel, Slater, Sheffield, Young and Tarver) vs Team WWE (Cena, Edge, Jericho, Punk, Big Show, Morrison, Miz and Steamboat, who never had his serious head injury). The final 6 in the match are Cena, Miz and Jericho vs Barrett, Bryan and Kaval. Miz and Jericho walk leaving Cena all alone. Kaval goes for the Tree Of Woe Warrior's Way, but Cena evades and makes him tap in the STF. No shame in that after a gruelling match. Then Bryan comes in, kicks Cena's f***ing head in and pins him 1-2-3. Nexus wins, interweb explodes and Cena gets taken out on a stretcher again. This time, they have no idea when he's coming back.
Night Of Champions comes around, and Barrett gets his NXT title shot in a 6-Pack Challenge (Orton, Sheamus, Edge, Jericho, Miz (not using his MITB briefcase) and Barrett), while Bryan and Kaval get a tag title shot versus The Hart Dynasty. Skip Sheffield never breaks his ankle in Hawaii, and as the revelation of the group, gets a US Championship match against R-Truth. It's a clean sweep for The Nexus as they win all the male RAW titles. The bigger picture is half-fulfilled.
Now for the other half. Using Bryan and Kaval's tag title privileges, The Nexus start laying waste to SmackDown too, leading to Justin Gabriel winning the Intercontinental Championship. And they don't forget their old home of NXT, destroying the Season 2 rookies (including one David "A-List" Otunga) and their Pros one week. Here, Young starts to show remorse and on the next RAW, they beat him down and boot him out of the group. Eventually, he links up with Percy Watson and they form the SoBe Party Boys team.
Hell in a Cell comes around and Barrett defends the WWE Championship against Orton in the Cell. Barrett wins when The Nexus storm the Cell and lay waste to Orton, including a Warrior's Way on a steel chair in Orton's face by Kaval, and Bryan putting him in the LeBell Lock until he passes out. Nexus stands tall again.
But cracks are starting to show, and WWE starts to fight back. The IC title is lost when Christian defeats Gabriel in a cage match. The tag titles are lost at Bragging Rights to The SoBe Party Boys when Orton distracts Bryan and Kaval, who gets hit with Watson's Showtime DDT. Finally, the week before Survivor Series on the old-school RAW, Barrett loses the WWE Championship to the returning John Cena.
This leads to an epic encounter. Barrett, Bryan, Kaval, Gabriel, Slater, Sheffield and Tarver vs Cena, Undertaker, Orton, Kane, Mysterio, Edge and, taking the call to save WWE in it's time of need, Shawn Michaels, in a WarGames match at Survivor Series. Stipulations state that depending on who wins, either Nexus breaks up or Team WWE is out of a job (except for HBK, who is there for one night only anyway). The match is a 45-minute epic, and finally ends when The Undertaker plants Barrett with a Tombstone on a steel chair to win the match and save WWE.
The months-long war between WWE and The Nexus is over at last.
After that, they scatter all over the place:
*Barrett becomes a fixture of the main event scene on RAW.
*Bryan turns face and wins the US title from Sheffield at TLC. His matches are the highlight of every RAW, and even Michael Cole is starting to warm up to the guy...
*Gabriel turns face go to SmackDown and puts on TV classic matches in the IC division every week with the likes of Christian, Kingston, Ziggler, Swagger, Rhodes and NXT 2 winner Seth Rollins, forming a critically acclaimed SmackDown Seven.
*After losing the US title, Sheffield links up with Ezekiel Jackson, who under William Regal's tutelage, form a new Ruthless Roundtable as part of a revitalised tag division with The Hart Dynasty, The SoBe Party Boys, Marella/Kozlov, The Uso Brothers, The Dudebusters, The Society (Mercury and Gallows, but not associated with Punk), Hawkins/Archer and The Rotundo Brothers (NXT 2 alumni "Lanky" Bo and "Husky" Duke).
*Slater and Tarver, not bringing much to the table on their own, hang around RAW as jobbers to the stars.
*Kaval does eventually leave WWE burned out with the schedule, but with his name value at an all-time high after The Nexus angle, he can basically name his price on the indy circuit.
And what of David Otunga? Well, he's FCW Tag Team Champions with Titus O'Neill.
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Post by rogers67 on Jan 15, 2011 8:53:55 GMT -5
^ i just marked from the awesomeness of that.
Anyways my question is what if KENTA came to WWE?
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jan 15, 2011 8:54:55 GMT -5
What if Vince slipped on the soap in the show? My god! He could be killed!
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Post by Shameful_Lobsterhead on Jan 15, 2011 12:39:20 GMT -5
What if Mr Kennedy never got injured after winning MITB? Kennedy would have waited til WrestleMania 24 as planned and faced Edge for the World Title in the pre-main event. The actual Main Event is HBK vs. Flair. Going into this match, Kennedy would be the top face on Smackdown and defeats Edge with the mic-check on the title to become World Champion. Taker instead of facing Edge, would face Big Show, leaving that God-awful match of Show vs. Mayweather out. The match is being built as "the battle of two MONSTERS" Taker beats Show to continue the streak Then we have another Kennedy / Taker feud, this time over the World Title. ================================ What if Flair beat Michaels at WM 24? |
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Post by Shameful_Lobsterhead on Jan 15, 2011 14:23:21 GMT -5
^ i just marked from the awesomeness of that. Anyways my question is what if KENTA came to WWE? See Yoshi Tatsu lmao |
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Post by H-Virus on Jan 15, 2011 15:13:18 GMT -5
What if WWE had kept trying to push Rocky as a face instead of turning him into The Rock?
What if Undertaker had lost before The Streak became a big deal?
What if Vince hadn't screwed Bret?
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Post by doguncle on Jan 15, 2011 16:10:22 GMT -5
As for the Flair having his career end in the 1974 plane crash, I think DiBiase would have been the main beneficiary. Steamboat and Sting wouldn't be the stars they became with no Flair to work with. Hogan and Dusty wouldn't have wrestled as long without Flair carrying them. The NWA might have crumbled sooner without Flair as the traveling champion. Bret Hart and Shane Douglas wouldn't have a scapegoat to complain about.
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Post by hammer89 on Jan 15, 2011 16:39:00 GMT -5
what if shawn doesn't come back from his back injury?
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Post by ThatDamnPotato on Jan 15, 2011 19:54:16 GMT -5
Then he would have been in the hall of fame before now and he would have become general manager of RAW no way he would have just left
What if WCW was still in business would there ever be a Samoa Joe or AJ Styles?
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Post by hammer4life on Jan 15, 2011 20:44:34 GMT -5
What if Shawn hadn't screwed Bret?
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Jan 15, 2011 20:54:12 GMT -5
WCW us still about, it just goes under the name of TNA now  What if John Cena had beaten Rob Van Dam at One Night Stand? |
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Post by Brainbustaaah! on Jan 15, 2011 21:05:19 GMT -5
What if John Cena had beaten Rob Van Dam at One Night Stand? We would have rioted. |
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Post by 'Smart' Mark Poindexter on Jan 15, 2011 21:34:27 GMT -5
What if Vince hadn't screwed Bret?
Then an angry Shawn Micheals begins rioting backstage causing Vince to fire him,Bret still the champion and now without Shawn in the company stays and tells Bischoff that he won't be coming to WCW,WCW instead hires Shawn and we end up with a bidding war angle were the NWO's and the recently reformed 4-Horsemen compete over the Heartbreak Kid, Micheals lets everyone believe he's all Wolfpack all the way only to superkick Nash and join up with Flair and the Horsemen instead,the Horsemen line up being HBK,Flair,Hennig,and Benoit (Hennig having not joined the NWO yet at this point).
Meanwhile the WWF has a tournament to crown a new European Champion since Micheals was holding the belt when he was fired, Marc Mero wins and begins to fued with Steve Austin. HHW never makes it past the midcard during the 90's due to his assocation with Micheals and is granted his release in early 2000 which sends him to WCW to join his former cohort. The WWF manages not to slide completely into the Attitude Era staying relatively family friendly thanks to Hart's influence and they never really pull ahead of WCW leaving things in a tied up stalemate that would continue for years,the biggest fued of the late 90's federation is The Rock/Hart/Owen Hart who trade the title back and forth for a good bit of 97-99.
What if Owen had agreed to do the infidelity angle and hadn't been put back in the Blue Blazer gimmick? Sorry but talking about Bret so much there and the fact that he's been in so many discussions lately made me think of this one...
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Post by Summerfest on Jan 16, 2011 9:16:48 GMT -5
What if Daniel Bryan had been R-Truth's replacement in the RAW MITB ladder match instead of Mark Henry, and won as compensation for being fired?
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