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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Dec 30, 2010 16:57:34 GMT -5
There are all sorts of different ways to turn Cena heel, so long as a new top babyface is ready to counter him. But I still wouldn't do it.
Not for any fear of losing t-shirt money, I just personally like goofy faces like Cena. He's like Dusty Rhodes where he can bounce between mocking and being threatening.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Dec 30, 2010 17:02:58 GMT -5
It has to be a complete character change. No more jorts or hideous t-shirts.
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Post by Red Impact on Dec 30, 2010 17:03:46 GMT -5
Cena could have turned heel on Orton during the whole "Free or Fired" thing, and it would have made for a nice contrast to when they feuded with Orton as the main heel and Cena as the main face. The opportunity is always there so long as there is some sort of storyline support for it. I think that would have been a bad time to turn him heel, especially if it involved him siding with Nexus. The best they could do that could make sense is have him screw Orton (either reluctantly or willingly), but still not be on Nexus's side.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Dec 30, 2010 17:07:09 GMT -5
It has to be a complete character change. No more jorts or hideous t-shirts. No, the jorts have to stay- they've become too associated with him. Completely black jorts like he used to wear at one point, and drabber colors overall would work, but the jorts are to him what pink/black is to Bret Hart.
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Post by Roo on Dec 30, 2010 17:16:56 GMT -5
Definitely punch someone's granny.
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Post by Haulk on Dec 30, 2010 17:26:04 GMT -5
The fans are the only people he can heel on. Nobody cares if he fights Orton, who is rapidly reaching his league. I can't think of a reason for him to turn on the fans either.
I think they would have him start being more selfish like obviously not helping anyone in beatdowns and running away from Nexus more so that he gradually becomes less trusted as a hero figure by the kids. it would take 2 months to do this. Finally he would do commentary at ringside while Orton takes a huge beatdown and do nothing to help, and say that Ortons a big boy that can take care of himself. Then he utterly destoys Santino in a Tag match put together by the GM for some random reason.
Then he can finally just come out with 3 day beard and tell the fans to stick it that he is tired of wearing ridiculous T shirts and Jorts pretending to be an 18 year old X games athlete just to please a bunch of kids. He can bury his own gimmick and claim to be more important than the WWE Universe. Finally Nexus beats down Orton on the ramp and Cena gets in his face then walks off to a chorus of boos. a week later end he announces a truce with Nexus and Punk and helps them beat down Sheamus.
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Post by Fiddleford H. McGucket on Dec 30, 2010 17:33:52 GMT -5
Every Time this topic comes up.....I have the same answer (More or Less)
- Keep him a smiling goofy babyface....but make it obvious that it's all an act. He keeps the facade to sell merch. Basically he's a sellout....realizes he's a sellout....but doesn't care. He realizes he's the public face of the company, a lockerroom leader, and a "role Model" to children the world over. He then parlays that to an advantageous position to where he has more power than Vince, other Superstars, etc. Basically use the "Hogan Horror Stories" as a template and go from there. He's big enough to realize he's "Too Big" for WWE and if he wanted to leave.....he could bring down the company simply by being absent.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Dec 30, 2010 17:46:52 GMT -5
Every Time this topic comes up.....I have the same answer (More or Less) - Keep him a smiling goofy babyface....but make it obvious that it's all an act. He keeps the facade to sell merch. Basically he's a sellout....realizes he's a sellout....but doesn't care. He realizes he's the public face of the company, a lockerroom leader, and a "role Model" to children the world over. He then parlays that to an advantageous position to where he has more power than Vince, other Superstars, etc. Basically use the "Hogan Horror Stories" as a template and go from there. He's big enough to realize he's "Too Big" for WWE and if he wanted to leave.....he could bring down the company simply by being absent. So something similar to the Hollywood Rock character? I'm down with that as long as he gets new music. An epic remix of his theme song.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Dec 30, 2010 22:44:54 GMT -5
Why not pull a Bash At The Beach like WCW did with Hogan?
Have Cena out of the picture for a while and continue to build guys like Morrison, Kofi, Miz, Orton, or even Sheamus as part of the youth movement. Eventually he returns only to turn on the WWE, the fanbase, and basically become a real asshole of a heel.
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Post by Burst on Dec 30, 2010 23:08:23 GMT -5
No, the jorts have to stay- they've become too associated with him. Completely black jorts like he used to wear at one point, and drabber colors overall would work, but the jorts are to him what pink/black is to Bret Hart. That's exactly the point, though. It's like when Jericho said that when developing the SRS persona he stripped away every iconic thing associated with his character (the pose, the tights, the catchphrases, the countdown, etc) and even newer things like ASK HIM! when they started to become popular with the fans. Granted, Cena wouldn't necessarily have to become a SRS heel, but eliminating everything iconic about him would certainly be a great heat-getter. But then again, you go TOO spartan with him and he winds up looking like a clean-shaven Austin with a really blocky head and tiny legs.
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Post by Big L on Dec 30, 2010 23:39:28 GMT -5
Have him join Nexus again this time bc he wants to
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Post by DASH 243✅ on Dec 30, 2010 23:42:58 GMT -5
do this to a fan
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Post by mikey_editor on Dec 31, 2010 0:51:58 GMT -5
Why do you turn Cena Heel? Randy Orton has overcome a tag. Cena can do so from the other direction. Basically, fans in the long run recognize talent and back it no matter what they are told to do. HHH was/is the master of this, taking whichever side needed him. In this age of information, we are no longer led by a locked-in script. for instance, as Cena is legit injured (and a hip can be a long bad way to come back) whatever fake beat-down they try to advance won't really be accepted. He has already put over anyone he need to put over.
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Post by Alex Shelley on Dec 31, 2010 1:00:08 GMT -5
Have him talk in a slow monotone, give him plain trunks, no hats or any other accessories, and walk to the ring slowly, methodically... Heck, ditch his theme song, have him come out without any music. So basically turn him into Randy Orton minus the music?
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Post by percymania on Dec 31, 2010 1:55:57 GMT -5
The formula is pretty simple. He turns heel just like anyone else would turn heel. There's 3 main steps:
1. Deliver a shocking attack on a top babyface(s) 2. Give a promo about how much you hate the babyface(s) and/or the fans 3. Form a new alliance with other hated heels
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Post by Wade Barrett = WRESTLING GOD!! on Dec 31, 2010 7:16:56 GMT -5
hit a RKO on vince and then make out with wade barrett
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 31, 2010 7:30:36 GMT -5
I really think the reason some folks want Cena as a heel so they can finally cheer for him and not feel ashamed (ex.Hulk Hogan's turn). For years Hogan was jeered and booed by smarks. But the moment he turned heel and joined Hall & Nash he became cool to cheer for. Cena as a heel would only worked if there is a equally over babyface to counter him. The only one close to him is Orton and they already had long history with each. Sting vs Hogan worked because they only had one match against each other before the heel turn.
If you really want Cena as a heel; drop the jorts, the buzzcut, and the Never Say Die attitude. Let him get a case of the SRS so he is no longer entertaining. FUing Hornswoggle won't turn him heel. Attacking babyfaces will still get him cheers. But cutting seriously boring promos without catchphrases or cute humor just might.
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Post by imbordisux on Dec 31, 2010 7:38:39 GMT -5
Easiest way? Make him a coward.
Just the complete antithesis of his "Superman, Overcome The Odds, Never Back Down" gimmick.
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Post by thesam07 on Dec 31, 2010 8:35:30 GMT -5
How to turn Cena heel in 5 simple steps.[/b] 1. Give Cena a big twirly moustache. 2. Give Cena a top hat. 3. Give Cena a black cape. 4. Have Cena tie a damsel to the train tracks. 5. Have Cena laugh real evil like (ex. "MWA HA HA HA")
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Post by metylerca on Dec 31, 2010 15:21:49 GMT -5
Have him come down the aisle attacking grandmothers and ripping up a childs autograph book.
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