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Post by CMWaters on Jul 20, 2011 22:25:57 GMT -5
OK, the "Batman The Animated Series" appreciation thread got me thinking about this.
As great as the Timmverse, as people have called it, was for DC characters...some people do say there were episodes that were...well...less than stellar.
SO...let's choose the top ten worst for each series.
...leaving out Static Shock and The Zeta Project, since most might say the entirety of either of those...that leaves us with:
Batman: The Animated Series (all versions of it)
Superman: The Animated Series
Batman Beyond
Justice League
Justice League Unlimited.
If you can, try to pick 10 from each. Or just pick one episode from each series if you can't. I WOULD like you explaining WHY you picked the episode though (more than just picking, say, the Farmer Brown or whoever that was ep of Batman and not saying why you picked that one).
And...go.
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Post by Michael Coello on Jul 20, 2011 22:39:09 GMT -5
I don't know episode titles, so I'll just describe the episodes. I bet most won't agree with me, but they're the ones I don't enjoy.
Batman AS: The one with Batman as a fugitive. I know it's a popular one, and was on the Gotham Knight DVD, but I never liked it. Just something about it seemed stupid. Either that, or the robot one from the original series. Probably cause I never liked how they did the robots.
Superman: The ending episode with Darkseid invasion. I didn't like the darker tone of it, and to leave the series with that just left a bad taste in my mouth
Batman Beyond: The one about the animal splicing, which ends with the big mutated Goliath where Terry just shoves needle after needle in the guy till he dies. It seemed too stupid of a plot.
Justice League: The episode where all the male population are sick and the women are left in charge. The Amazon episodes, I felt, were mostly one note, plus the damn thing had some trite dialog to be honest.
Justice League Unlimited: The one where Batman and Green Lantern go to the Beyond universe and see the future League. The last fight where the Joker thug murdered most of the future league, which gets promptly ignored by the modern heroes just doesn't sit well with me, and ruins the whole episode. Plus, I hated the stereo joke.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Jul 20, 2011 23:00:26 GMT -5
Curtosy of wikipedia when I was looking at episodes of the Batman show
"The Terrible Trio
Three wealthy, bored friends of Bruce Wayne decide to seek new thrills by becoming master criminals. As the Fox, the Shark and the Vulture - masters of land, sea and air - the Terrible Trio pick Gotham clean, until they encounter one person who cannot be bought off—Batman.
This episode is notable for being the worst considered of the entire DC Animated Universe.
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Post by CMWaters on Jul 20, 2011 23:05:44 GMT -5
Curtosy of wikipedia when I was looking at episodes of the Batman show "The Terrible Trio Three wealthy, bored friends of Bruce Wayne decide to seek new thrills by becoming master criminals. As the Fox, the Shark and the Vulture - masters of land, sea and air - the Terrible Trio pick Gotham clean, until they encounter one person who cannot be bought off—Batman. This episode is notable for being the worst considered of the entire DC Animated Universe. Huh. And here I thought that the Superman ep "Unity" and the Batman ep "Critters" were the only universally derided ones. Then again, I haven't seen the ep you mentioned. |
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Post by hossfan on Jul 20, 2011 23:29:06 GMT -5
Is "Critters" the episode with Farmer Brown as the villain? Because that one was bad.
I remember an episode from the original "BTAS" where Batman's wounded and recovering in the suburbs while the Penguin is hunting him. There were some annoying kids involved too. I think it was called "There's a Batman in My Basement". It was awful.
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Post by CMWaters on Jul 20, 2011 23:31:45 GMT -5
Is "Critters" the episode with Farmer Brown as the villain? Because that one was bad. I remember an episode from the original "BTAS" where Batman's wounded and recovering in the suburbs while the Penguin is hunting him. There were some annoying kids involved too. I think it was called "There's a Batman in My Basement". It was awful. Yes to the first note. Funny, Timm and crew did a commentary on that ep, and they regretted not putting Farmer Brown as part of Cadmus for Justice League Unlimited. As for the second, you were close. "I've Got A Batman In My Basement" was the ep title. |
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Post by andrew8798 on Jul 20, 2011 23:34:29 GMT -5
Curtosy of wikipedia when I was looking at episodes of the Batman show "The Terrible Trio Three wealthy, bored friends of Bruce Wayne decide to seek new thrills by becoming master criminals. As the Fox, the Shark and the Vulture - masters of land, sea and air - the Terrible Trio pick Gotham clean, until they encounter one person who cannot be bought off—Batman. This episode is notable for being the worst considered of the entire DC Animated Universe. Don't even remember that episode |
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Post by Evilution E5150 on Jul 20, 2011 23:41:04 GMT -5
i will not stand here and have Critters bashed thats an amazing episode
for me its pretty much any batman is a ninja episode those bored me to death
for JLU i'll say "Ancient History", cant stand it, star cross lovers whatever its so damn boring
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2011 23:43:54 GMT -5
Curtosy of wikipedia when I was looking at episodes of the Batman show "The Terrible Trio Three wealthy, bored friends of Bruce Wayne decide to seek new thrills by becoming master criminals. As the Fox, the Shark and the Vulture - masters of land, sea and air - the Terrible Trio pick Gotham clean, until they encounter one person who cannot be bought off—Batman. This episode is notable for being the worst considered of the entire DC Animated Universe. Not seen that one, but it reminds me of the Fantastic Four ripoff Beyond episode. Far from Beyond's worst episode, but it bugged the hell out of me how they're sympathetic and the only really villainous thing they do is try to kill a guy who deserves it, and yet Terry just straight-up brutally murders them all. |
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Post by Mike Strike on Jul 21, 2011 3:04:46 GMT -5
The last season of JLU was like 50/50 super-awesome-amazing & pretty lame. The biggest offenders to me were the cat fight & seven soldiers. The cat fight one was too blatant & shameless on the fanservice & the plot hole of why Luthor didn't just brainwash the entire league drives me nuts.
Having a tribute to the Seven Soldiers of Victory would be nice except for the fact they they, well......lost. Some tribute. & the moral was painful in it's obviousness.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jul 21, 2011 3:42:18 GMT -5
Justice League's "Injustice be Done".
A great episode idea in theory (an alliance of super-villains to fight the League) completely killed by not putting any effort into the episode whatsoever. They start off the episode by destroying three seasons worth of Lex Luthor's characterisation and motivations in Superman:TAS and turn him into an ineffectual parody of his Superfriends counterpart. Luthor's fall from grace should've been something epic, not an afterthought so they could get the Superfriend nostalgia going.
He then hooks up with an alliance of poorly developed supervillains who's sole motivation is money. So basically this "Injustice Gang" are just colorfully dressed hired goons with almost no personality.
And finally the team gets easily defeated by the League 5 minutes after they form, making sure they never come off as interesting or even remotely threatening for the entire rest of the episode.
Throw in all the other regular season one problems - awkward, expositionary dialogue, poorly choreographed (and sometimes completely pointless) fight scenes, no character development for any of the heroes, VA's having a hard time finding their characters voices (particularly Wonder Woman), and of course wimpy Superman. You not only have a really bad episode of the DCAU, but the most disappointing because of how promising the concept was to begin with.
Oh, and to people saying "Critters", I'm not gonna say your wrong, I never really liked the episode myself, but I don't loath it as much as most DCAU fans seem to. As stupid as the plot was, I got the impression that everybody involved in it realized how silly it was and never took it too seriously, so watching it you never felt like you should take it too seriously. I always felt "Love is a Croc" was so much worse.
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Post by Jiren on Jul 21, 2011 4:13:21 GMT -5
- I've got Batman in my basement
So stupid and I facepalmed when I saw Penguin & his goons get taken down Home Alone style.
- Love is a Croc
Ugh, I HATE Baby Doll to begin with and this was just a badly written episode on top.
- Superman's pal
Even Timm & Co hate this episode
- The terrible Trio
As mentioned before, I just find it dumb
- War World
Superman is such a WUSS in this episode
- Critters
Such a dumb episode
They're the ones I remember but I have to watch Batman TAS - JLU again as I haven't watched them in a while.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2011 10:02:58 GMT -5
I hated the Justice League episode with Hawk and Dove. Sure, having Jason Hervey and Fred Savage play brothers again was cool, but the episode itself kills the vibe whenever I'm rewatching the series in order.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2011 10:06:47 GMT -5
I didn't mind the Terrible Trio episode that much, they were basically a gang of Anti-Batmen, rich snobs that dressed up as animals based on what their dads' businesses were. I liked the smaller Batman episodes where he had to deal with scoundrels that were con artists instead of super villains. That said, it was a pretty damn boring episode.
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Post by Turd Ferguson on Jul 21, 2011 10:30:02 GMT -5
Curtosy of wikipedia when I was looking at episodes of the Batman show "The Terrible Trio Three wealthy, bored friends of Bruce Wayne decide to seek new thrills by becoming master criminals. As the Fox, the Shark and the Vulture - masters of land, sea and air - the Terrible Trio pick Gotham clean, until they encounter one person who cannot be bought off—Batman. This episode is notable for being the worst considered of the entire DC Animated Universe. Not seen that one, but it reminds me of the Fantastic Four ripoff Beyond episode. Far from Beyond's worst episode, but it bugged the hell out of me how they're sympathetic and the only really villainous thing they do is try to kill a guy who deserves it, and yet Terry just straight-up brutally murders them all. Actually the ones gathered in Beyond are Defenders. It's one of my fav episodes. |
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