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Post by The Legendary Ring Troll {BLM} on Mar 14, 2011 22:42:26 GMT -5
I don't see why people think just cuz some don't know TNA and their wrestlers that they wouldn't be interested. When ECW invaded Raw, I had NO idea who they were, but it was compelling. All these people who I didn't know getting a chance to shine. I became an RVD mark on that night and went on to order Hardcore Heaven 97 and become an ECW fan. All because they presented them right.
Now, take the same thing and apply it to Fourtune. Showing up randomly on Raw, cause some havok. Present them correctly, ala Nexus' debut, and people will care. Doesn't matter if no one knows who they are, as long as its compelling, people will care.
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Post by Supercheese on Mar 14, 2011 23:23:00 GMT -5
Beer Money would be in a dead tag division, Kazarian is a vanilla midget w/ no charisma and AJ is a bland spot monkey. So in other words - noone would give a s***. YOU wouldn't give a s***. Despite what you may or may not think, every wrestler has a fan, maybe more than one. Trust me. There's a whole thread dedicated to it somewhere. There's a whole thread on an internet forum someone and you think this relates to the millions (and millions) of WWE fans around the world. Please tell me you aren't that fickle. Please?
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Post by Danimal on Mar 14, 2011 23:51:35 GMT -5
That's the thing. WWE has never treated TNA acquisitions as that big of a deal. Vance Archer never accomplished much and Chris Harris had like three matches. Gail Kim did NOTHING for years up until recently. R-Truth and Christian are doing OK for themselves but are pretty much locked into mid-card spots. It's dumb to me. If WWE were smart they would take TNA guys and try to make them stars. That way their talent would want to jump ship. This is why I don't think WWE see's TNA as anything even remotely close to a threat. Never liked the way Monte Brown was brought in. He should've came in as a big deal AS MONTE F'ing BROWN, the ex-patriot that runs smack about the owning the Serengeti and giving suckers the POUUUUUUUUUUUNCE. Vince no-sold the acquisition. He had no build-up, just showed-up with a goofy new name and no character to beat a jobber on ECW. TNA dropped the ball on him then WWE picked-up him only to do the same. Ya things didn't turn-out well with the guy but what went down with his family couldn't have been predicted at the time.
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Post by Young Game on Mar 14, 2011 23:55:41 GMT -5
YOU wouldn't give a s***. Despite what you may or may not think, every wrestler has a fan, maybe more than one. Trust me. There's a whole thread dedicated to it somewhere. There's a whole thread on an internet forum somewhere and you think this relates to the millions (and millions) of WWE fans around the world. Please tell me you aren't that fickle. Please? No. I'm not that naive. It's a thread that was started on these very forums. There are people from all over the world that post here. It was a thread started to find out if even the most hated or most obscure of wrestling names had a fan. P.S.: Did you just quote The Rock at me? P.P.S: I changed your "someone" to "somewhere".
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Post by Supercheese on Mar 14, 2011 23:56:47 GMT -5
That's the thing. WWE has never treated TNA acquisitions as that big of a deal. Vance Archer never accomplished much and Chris Harris had like three matches. Gail Kim did NOTHING for years up until recently. R-Truth and Christian are doing OK for themselves but are pretty much locked into mid-card spots. It's dumb to me. If WWE were smart they would take TNA guys and try to make them stars. That way their talent would want to jump ship. This is why I don't think WWE see's TNA as anything even remotely close to a threat. Never liked the way Monte Brown was brought in. He should've came in as a big deal AS MONTE F'ing BROWN, the ex-patriot that runs smack about the owning the Serengeti and giving suckers the POUUUUUUUUUUUNCE. Vince no-sold the acquisition. He had no build-up, just showed-up with a goofy new name and no character to beat a jobber on ECW. TNA dropped the ball on him then WWE picked-up him only to do the same. Ya things didn't turn-out well with the guy but what went down with his family couldn't have been predicted at the time. WWE were pushing him. He took several months to deal with a family issue, then asked for his release. I don't think you can blame them for it.
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Post by HungryJack215 on Mar 15, 2011 10:43:48 GMT -5
I'd rather see the Knockouts (Mickie, Tara, Madison, and The Beautiful People jump/return to ship to threaten the "Divas of the WWE", with Vickie as the reason they're able to jump ship and cause havoc on all the Divas.). At least that would be entertaining to see.
And Robbie E to jump ship for the sole purpose of having Zack Ryder expose him for the poser that he is. Woo! Woo! Although creative would probably team them up, call them the "The Fist Pumpers" and job them out to Santino/Koslov.
And Rob Terry could be Wade Barrett's bodyguard and better off then he is in TNA now.
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Post by CJ on Mar 15, 2011 10:47:35 GMT -5
It would never happen. Almost everybody in the arena knew who the Radicalz were... Fourtune, I just doubt it would mean as much
It would greatly affect TNA, but it's just...different
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Post by Danimal on Mar 15, 2011 11:18:37 GMT -5
Never liked the way Monte Brown was brought in. He should've came in as a big deal AS MONTE F'ing BROWN, the ex-patriot that runs smack about the owning the Serengeti and giving suckers the POUUUUUUUUUUUNCE. Vince no-sold the acquisition. He had no build-up, just showed-up with a goofy new name and no character to beat a jobber on ECW. TNA dropped the ball on him then WWE picked-up him only to do the same. Ya things didn't turn-out well with the guy but what went down with his family couldn't have been predicted at the time. WWE were pushing him. He took several months to deal with a family issue, then asked for his release. I don't think you can blame them for it. Did you read my post? I went into the family situation. That is moot. I was talking about before that developed. They did squat with him. What push? Show me where he got pushed. Maybe it was in the plans/hopes but to that time he'd done little. He'd beaten a couple pure jobbers and been in a stable headed by Punk's punching-bag. Like I said Vince totally no-sold the acquisition. They had a great character already established and he could've been pushed big-time. Instead they gave him a dumb new name, no character, no build-up, and little to do. Like I said they dropped the ball. 3.
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Post by Push R Truth on Mar 15, 2011 12:01:05 GMT -5
I'd be happy because somebody needs to job to Chris Masters.
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Post by "Dashing" Dr.VonPhoenix on Mar 15, 2011 12:15:16 GMT -5
Wait... just out of curiosity what, exactly, was this "unspecified family issue"?
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Post by Supercheese on Mar 15, 2011 14:14:39 GMT -5
WWE were pushing him. He took several months to deal with a family issue, then asked for his release. I don't think you can blame them for it. Did you read my post? I went into the family situation. That is moot. I was talking about before that developed. They did squat with him. What push? Show me where he got pushed. Maybe it was in the plans/hopes but to that time he'd done little. He'd beaten a couple pure jobbers and been in a stable headed by Punk's punching-bag. Like I said Vince totally no-sold the acquisition. They had a great character already established and he could've been pushed big-time. Instead they gave him a dumb new name, no character, no build-up, and little to do. Like I said they dropped the ball. 3. Why should they build it up? TNA is nothing to the majority of wrestling fans. Hardly dropping the ball. He was the exact same character that he was in TNA. So what he had a new name? I don't think many people knew him as Monty Brown former TNA star compared to Monty Brown former NFL player. TNA Isn't that big.
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Post by Supercheese on Mar 15, 2011 14:18:18 GMT -5
There's a whole thread on an internet forum somewhere and you think this relates to the millions (and millions) of WWE fans around the world. Please tell me you aren't that fickle. Please? No. I'm not that naive. It's a thread that was started on these very forums. There are people from all over the world that post here. It was a thread started to find out if even the most hated or most obscure of wrestling names had a fan. P.S.: Did you just quote The Rock at me? P.P.S: I changed your "someone" to "somewhere". Yes, but the percentage of people who post on here compared the world wide fanbase is rather small. So just because some people on this forum have a love for TNA guys, doesn't mean that your average 8-14 year old who make up the majority of WWE audience comes on here and follows TNA. If today's kids don't recognise prominent midcarders from the Attitude Era then what chance will they have of recognising TNA guys? Low Ki and Danielson didn't exactly get massive pops. Danielson got a bit of a backing due to him feuding with Miz but the crowd has been dead from him since then. Low Ki was one of the people who put TNA on the map and he didn't get over either.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2011 14:22:56 GMT -5
Wait... just out of curiosity what, exactly, was this "unspecified family issue"? I could be wrong, as Brown's situation was kept pretty tight lipped, but I read that his sister committed suicide and he had to, at least for a time, take care of her children. Again, that's what I've read and I could be mistaken.
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Post by Supercheese on Mar 15, 2011 15:08:42 GMT -5
Wait... just out of curiosity what, exactly, was this "unspecified family issue"? I could be wrong, as Brown's situation was kept pretty tight lipped, but I read that his sister committed suicide and he had to, at least for a time, take care of her children. Again, that's what I've read and I could be mistaken. Which makes the idea that WWE dropped the ball with him even more absurd. He asked for his own release after several months of caring for them. He didn't want to leave them.
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