Boku AKA Da Green Guy
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Post by Boku AKA Da Green Guy on Apr 21, 2006 18:56:44 GMT -5
My thinking is that Masters depends on his size and muscles to win. Not many can identify with this. While Carlito, a smaller but talented wrestler, depends on his speed and quick thinking. Similar to, like others have said, the late Eddie Guerrero. Also, Carilto can actually say "WWE" without missing a letter.
Quick thought: Wouldn't it be great to have video segments of Striker trying to teach Masters and Masters completely failing at everything? Comedic gold.
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Post by mrobert21 on Apr 21, 2006 19:23:34 GMT -5
Carlito has personality. Chris Masters does not. Carlito is likable. Chris Masters is not. Carlito is clearly talented. Chris Masters is not. Carlito is charismatic. Chris Masters cannot. Carlito can talk. Chris Masters cannot. Carlito is... you know. Chris Masters is not. Carlito is naturally entertaining. Chris Masters is not. What's not to get? Quoted For Absolute And Complete Truth In Every Way, Shape, And Form. I give Masters a year before he gets Tomkoed out of the company. The huge push they put on Masters, which got him no place (as I correctly predicted before it even started). Carlito is Razor Ramon over and has not even started to tap his in ring potential. The only reason Carlito does not get a monster push is because McMahon is afraid of Carlito getting too huge and then going back to work for Carlos Colon in Puerto Rico.
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Post by CuJ0 Will Keep Dancing on Apr 21, 2006 19:51:44 GMT -5
Chris Masters is upper-mid cards Rob Conway.
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Post by Magneto on Apr 21, 2006 20:14:36 GMT -5
Masters is useless. Renee Dupree is more over and he hasn't been on Raw in SEVERAL months.
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nisi
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Post by nisi on Apr 21, 2006 20:20:02 GMT -5
Quick thought: Wouldn't it be get to have video segments of Striker trying to teach Masters and Masters completely failing at everything? Comedic gold. Brother Green, you are genius, sir! Vince should be open to this, because Masters sort of looks dopey for trusting Carlito anyway. Like several of us, I actually like Masters and am on record as thinking he will rise to the championship fairly soon. But he is too disliked to be a face, it would be Cena Redux, and Carlito makes you smile even if you dislike him (I like him too).
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Post by Magneto on Apr 21, 2006 20:22:44 GMT -5
Rise to what championship? The closest championship Masters will see this year is a tag team belt and that's probably at the end of the year.
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Post by samachine on Apr 21, 2006 20:27:06 GMT -5
Because Carlito uses five thousand finishers, therefore he must be the face
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Boku AKA Da Green Guy
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Post by Boku AKA Da Green Guy on Apr 21, 2006 20:27:15 GMT -5
Quick thought: Wouldn't it be get to have video segments of Striker trying to teach Masters and Masters completely failing at everything? Comedic gold. Brother Green, you are genius, sir! Vince should be open to this, because Masters sort of looks dopey for trusting Carlito anyway. Like several of us, I actually like Masters and am on record as thinking he will rise to the championship fairly soon. But he is too disliked to be a face, it would be Cena Redux, and Carlito makes you smile even if you dislike him (I like him too). While I think that Masters has a ways to go before a championship, I'll agree because you fed into my ego.
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Post by Scooter on Apr 21, 2006 20:48:32 GMT -5
Carlito has personality. Chris Masters does not. Carlito is likable. Chris Masters is not. Carlito is clearly talented. Chris Masters is not. Carlito is charismatic. Chris Masters cannot. Carlito can talk. Chris Masters cannot. Carlito is... you know. Chris Masters is not. Carlito is naturally entertaining. Chris Masters is not. What's not to get? Not to mention, Masters is an idiot. A big, boring idiot who broke Stevie Richards' whole face.
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Post by amishassassin on Apr 22, 2006 0:48:17 GMT -5
Carlito will slowly start acting a little more like a face. Didn't you catch the comeback on striker when striker slowly pronounced analogy...Carlito's facelike comeback was "anal what?" I laughed my butt off. That's why he's the face!
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Post by angryfan on Apr 22, 2006 1:00:32 GMT -5
I look at the two, and I think of characters from the past. Carlito has a little bit of Piper in him, and some Razor Ramon, while Masters is Luger 2.0. Carlito SHOULD be the heel, but, well, if the fans get to choose between "damn, this guy is funny, does cool stuff in the ring, and makes me enjoy watching him" or "he's got muscles and does a full nelson, woo" it makes sense that they'd get behind Carlito.
Masters isn't a lost cause, not by any means, he's just, well, stuck.
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therob
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Post by therob on Apr 22, 2006 1:12:17 GMT -5
Carlito=Cool
nuff said
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Post by silverking on Apr 22, 2006 6:09:39 GMT -5
Carlito's has been improving in the ring, and has always been charismatic.
Chris Masters has ____
So there you go.
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Post by Topher is Human on Apr 22, 2006 6:17:36 GMT -5
Carlito's Promos = Funny Masters' Voice = Sounds Funny
This doesnt effect this thread, i just thought id bring it up
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BHB
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Post by BHB on Apr 22, 2006 6:21:37 GMT -5
As soon as he comes of the steroids, Masters will have no gimmick.
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Post by STMP on Apr 22, 2006 6:32:45 GMT -5
People hate Chris Masters so bad, that hitting him with stuff is a face turn for everyone.
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Post by yvez9 on Apr 22, 2006 7:50:12 GMT -5
Masters is boring... asl he does is rant about his masterlock and then knocks people out with it. Notice he barely ever gets to use it in his uppercard matches, only in the masterlock challenge.
Carlito is funny but I'm afraid he'll get stale being a face. Something funny about heels is they can get away with cheating and doing funny stuff in the ring while faces always get caught... anyway. I hope for the best for the apple dude
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Post by Avalanche Alvarez on Apr 22, 2006 9:41:34 GMT -5
You know how the villagers were fearful of Frankenstein when he first stomped out of Frankenstein's castle?
Both he and Masters are afraid of fire and can't cut a decent promo to save their lives.
Carlito's the lesser of two Weebles.
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Post by picklerabbi on Apr 25, 2006 1:21:43 GMT -5
Masters needs to learn how to talk. His promos aren't good. Also, Carlito is funny either way.
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bob
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Post by bob on Apr 25, 2006 16:40:02 GMT -5
Because people like Carlito, and they are very indifferent to masters. exactly
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