What really buried Nexus

[Citizen Zero]

Yeah yeah, it's another Nexus thread. Deal with it, as the image macro says.

Anywho people complain about how Cena 'buried' the Nexus but quite frankly having Punk replace Wade and become their unquestioned leader hurt them more than anything.

Firstly, it made Wade look weak when Punk screwed him out of the Nexus leadership and he ended up scurrying over to Smackdown without the barest whiff of retaliation in return.

Secondly, it made the rest of the Nexus save Heath and Justin look like mindless drones unquestioningly following whoever was wearing the big yellow-and-black 'N' shirt, as opposed to the pack of dangerous, hungry invaders they looked like under Barrett.

So all in all, yeah, Punk hurt them alot more than Cena.

[FUNK_US/BRODUS]

They were damaged goods, and the WWE had to do something. They threw in an established heel who invoked a fresh creative input. It salvaged the group into a bunch of henchmen for Punk, and got the guys who could actually work (The Corre) off the sinking ship.

The Cena's Fired month screwed Nexus up more than anything else. He became this unbeatable force that would constantly screw with Nexus despite never being apprehended by security for jumping the rails as a fan. It was so illogical and stupid that it crushed any Nexus momentum. Especially considering just weeks before, Cena was Barrett's bitch.

Punk didnt save them by any means. It was merely life support to a mindless vegetable. Ive said for a while Punk doesnt need Nexus, and they should break him away. Which I think they are doing as he has had nothing to do with them.

[RatedRKoffee]

Creative didn't even know what to do with Wade after the Cena fued, they sure as hell didn't put any thought into what to do with his henchmen. The fact that the guys with the most personality (Skip and Tarver) got injured didn't help. So they cut their losses, moved the two guys they wanted to salvage, and just turned them into a bunch of guys to take RKOs.

[dream]

At the Rumble the fans went Nuts when the Corre and New Nexus squared off then nothing happened! Such a waste!

[Perpetual Nirvana]

Losing at Summerslam. Seriously, after that point Nexus was no more. Then it was Wade Barrett and friends (later to be CM Punk and friends).

[joey joe joe junior shabadoo]

Yeah it was the Cena's fired month that ruined Nexus more than anything. There were a few chinks in the armour before that but nothing too major.

Most days I ponder on what could have been with Nexus.

Of course if Bryan hadn't gotten fired off the bat there's a lot of potential for the greatest thing to happen in the WWE in recent times to have been even better than it was.

What if Sheffield and Tarver didn't get injured?

Could Darren Young have had a more pivotal role?

Oh how I do love reflecting on The Nexus!

[CJ]

Randy Orton buried The Nexus.

When CM Punk took over they could've done something entirely different with The New Nexus. Instead of being pissed off rookies, they could've been reluctant mind slaves of CM Punk. CM Punk could take a group of men, who once shook the very foundation of The WWE by force, and make them his own personal yes men.

The New Nexus could believe in CM Punk so much that CM Punk couldn't even wrestle a match without The Nexus interfering. Whenever somebody would so much as touch CM Punk, The New Nexus would beat them into a bloody pulp. If CM Punk was on the verge of getting his ass kicked, one of the members would sacrifice himself for CM Punk!
Imagine Randy Orton getting ready to Punt CM Punk, and then Michael McGillicutty steps in, gets down on his knees and takes The Punt himself.

Here you have David Otunga. The guy that Wade Barrett made into his personal bitch. The smile on David Otunga's face when CM Punk took over The Nexus told the story. He didn't wanna leave The Nexus, he just wanted Wade gone. Imagine Otunga realizing what CM Punk is doing to him and his fellow members. He could be the guy who knew he was in a worse situation, but stayed in fear of The New Nexus and what they would do to him if he expressed doubt in CM Punk.

Mason Ryan is CM Punk's most firm believer. When The Nexus expressed doubt in CM Punk's ability to win The Royal Rumble, Mason Ryan stepped in and said that CM Punk will indeed win The Royal Rumble. Mason Ryan BELIEVES in CM Punk more than the others. He will destroy any man who tries to stand up to CM Punk and The New Nexus.

McGillicutty & Harris are just along for the ride. They just want to be in the group and will do whatever Punk tells them to do

Hell, they could've brought in Amazing Kong as "Faith" to destroy The Divas. I know she would soon get pregnant, but if WWE really wants to push the envelope and keep her as The Ruthless Heel (without announcing that she was pregnant), they could've had Randy Orton Punt her. Could you imagine the response that would get!!

They could've told an incredible story with The New Nexus and made CM Punk the number 1 heel in the industry. Instead they dropped The Storyline with Cena, and then put Punk in an extremely one sided feud with Randy Orton that benefited nobody but Randy Orton

[joey joe joe junior shabadoo]

Jun 22, 2011 17:43:47 GMT -5 CJ said:

Randy Orton buried The Nexus.

When CM Punk took over they could've done something entirely different with The New Nexus. Instead of being pissed off rookies, they could've been reluctant mind slaves of CM Punk. CM Punk could take a group of men, who once shook the very foundation of The WWE by force, and make them his own personal yes men.

The New Nexus could believe in CM Punk so much that CM Punk couldn't even wrestle a match without The Nexus interfering. Whenever somebody would so much as touch CM Punk, The New Nexus would beat them into a bloody pulp. If CM Punk was on the verge of getting his ass kicked, one of the members would sacrifice himself for CM Punk!
Imagine Randy Orton getting ready to Punt CM Punk, and then Michael McGillicutty steps in, gets down on his knees and takes The Punt himself.

Here you have David Otunga. The guy that Wade Barrett made into his personal bitch. The smile on David Otunga's face when CM Punk took over The Nexus told the story. He didn't wanna leave The Nexus, he just wanted Wade gone. Imagine Otunga realizing what CM Punk is doing to him and his fellow members. He could be the guy who knew he was in a worse situation, but stayed in fear of The New Nexus and what they would do to him if he expressed doubt in CM Punk.

Mason Ryan is CM Punk's most firm believer. When The Nexus expressed doubt in CM Punk's ability to win The Royal Rumble, Mason Ryan stepped in and said that CM Punk will indeed win The Royal Rumble. Mason Ryan BELIEVES in CM Punk more than the others. He will destroy any man who tries to stand up to CM Punk and The New Nexus.

McGillicutty & Harris are just along for the ride. They just want to be in the group and will do whatever Punk tells them to do

Hell, they could've brought in Amazing Kong as "Faith" to destroy The Divas. I know she would soon get pregnant, but if WWE really wants to push the envelope and keep her as The Ruthless Heel (without announcing that she was pregnant), they could've had Randy Orton Punt her. Could you imagine the response that would get!!

The could've told an incredible story with The New Nexus and made CM Punk the number 1 heel in the industry. Instead they dropped The Storyline with Cena, and then put Punk in an extremely one sided feud with Randy Orton that benefited nobody but Randy Orton

I agree, but unfortunately I think it was too near to Wrestlemania for the WWE to be so adventurous creatively!

[Dean-o]

What made the nWo so successful was that WCW had such a huge roster that the nWo was able to dominate for so long, add new members, and feud with a ton of different people without totally taking over WCW or burying everybody.

On Raw, the roster is so small thanks to the brand split that what could they really do? The first few weeks you had the announcers running in fear, the ring being torn apart, Legends being destroyed, but lack of depth in roster, meant it's only a matter of time before you ran into only Main Eventers, and you weren't going to have guys like Jericho, Edge, Cena, etc jobbing to these rookies.

Losing at at Summerslam was a HORRIBLE idea, and the Bigger Picture was never revealed, members got taken out left and right, and they ran into SuperCena.

After Summerslam, they still had a chance to redeem themselves with Cena becoming over control of The Nexus, but the WWE is so damn afraid of having a Raw without Cena being God on it, they killed it instantly. He didn't even wear the t-shirt once because you gotta sell those Cena shirts! Hell, even when he was fired, he never left!

The WWE had lightening in the bottle, and they f***ed it all up. At least they sold a bunch of shirts though.

[CJ]

Jun 22, 2011 17:47:02 GMT -5 joey joe joe junior shabadoo said:

Jun 22, 2011 17:43:47 GMT -5 CJ said:

Randy Orton buried The Nexus.

When CM Punk took over they could've done something entirely different with The New Nexus. Instead of being pissed off rookies, they could've been reluctant mind slaves of CM Punk. CM Punk could take a group of men, who once shook the very foundation of The WWE by force, and make them his own personal yes men.

The New Nexus could believe in CM Punk so much that CM Punk couldn't even wrestle a match without The Nexus interfering. Whenever somebody would so much as touch CM Punk, The New Nexus would beat them into a bloody pulp. If CM Punk was on the verge of getting his ass kicked, one of the members would sacrifice himself for CM Punk!
Imagine Randy Orton getting ready to Punt CM Punk, and then Michael McGillicutty steps in, gets down on his knees and takes The Punt himself.

Here you have David Otunga. The guy that Wade Barrett made into his personal bitch. The smile on David Otunga's face when CM Punk took over The Nexus told the story. He didn't wanna leave The Nexus, he just wanted Wade gone. Imagine Otunga realizing what CM Punk is doing to him and his fellow members. He could be the guy who knew he was in a worse situation, but stayed in fear of The New Nexus and what they would do to him if he expressed doubt in CM Punk.

Mason Ryan is CM Punk's most firm believer. When The Nexus expressed doubt in CM Punk's ability to win The Royal Rumble, Mason Ryan stepped in and said that CM Punk will indeed win The Royal Rumble. Mason Ryan BELIEVES in CM Punk more than the others. He will destroy any man who tries to stand up to CM Punk and The New Nexus.

McGillicutty & Harris are just along for the ride. They just want to be in the group and will do whatever Punk tells them to do

Hell, they could've brought in Amazing Kong as "Faith" to destroy The Divas. I know she would soon get pregnant, but if WWE really wants to push the envelope and keep her as The Ruthless Heel (without announcing that she was pregnant), they could've had Randy Orton Punt her. Could you imagine the response that would get!!

The could've told an incredible story with The New Nexus and made CM Punk the number 1 heel in the industry. Instead they dropped The Storyline with Cena, and then put Punk in an extremely one sided feud with Randy Orton that benefited nobody but Randy Orton

I agree, but unfortunately I think it was too near to Wrestlemania for the WWE to be so adventurous creatively!

If they built up The Corre properly it would've been an even bigger storyline.
When Teddy Long was attacked, they could've had The Corre do it instead of Ziggler & Vickie.

Hell, why would Wade Barrett basically get owned by Punk and sent to The B-Show? So he can take it over!! He could have taken over as The GM. On RAW Gabriel & Slater "walk out" on CM Punk and move over to Smackdown with Barrett. Big Zeke joins in on the fun and The Corre can rule Smackdown with Wade Barrett as the evil GM.
After WrestleMania, they could've merged The Corre & The Nexus and revealed The Big Plan.

Wade Barrett realized that his current plan wasn't working, so he negotiated with CM Punk so they could split up The Nexus and rule both shows. With Wade as The GM on Smackdown and The Nexus as strong as ever on RAW...The True Nexus would rule the ENTIRE WWE with CM Punk & Wade Barrett at the helm

Oh yeah, that isn't even The Bigger Picture. That CM Punk/Wade Barrett take over plot was a last minute decision.
The Bigger Picture is The Anonymous GM in The Nexus's back pocket...


Not even John Cena can overcome those odds. It would take the entire roster

[Hit Girl]

Nexus were buried when they were portrayed as being totally terrified of Cena, despite outnumbering him seven to one.

[Doctor Of Style]

Jun 22, 2011 17:43:44 GMT -5 joey joe joe junior shabadoo said:

Yeah it was the Cena's fired month that ruined Nexus more than anything. There were a few chinks in the armour before that but nothing too major.

Most days I ponder on what could have been with Nexus.

Of course if Bryan hadn't gotten fired off the bat there's a lot of potential for the greatest thing to happen in the WWE in recent times to have been even better than it was.

What if Sheffield and Tarver didn't get injured?

Could Darren Young have had a more pivotal role?

Oh how I do love reflecting on The Nexus!

Yeah, I wonder what the original plan was for them before Bryan's firing and the injuries.

[Hit Girl]

Nexus were also directionless. Barrett kept on talking about a bigger picture, but they never explained what it was.

[Rolent Tex]

Nexus was done the second that Punk booted Barrett. Barrett got shipped to Smackdown...with no storyline reason...he wasn't traded, nothing. He just showed up. Same with Gabriel and Slater...they just showed up. If they can just show up on Smackdown for the hell of it, what's stopping them from showing up on Raw to attack Punk and New Nexus whenever they feel like it? Not like they ever stopped Cena from doing the same thing...

[Hit Girl]

The Nexus "grand plan" should have been that they were attacking people in the WWE on behalf of several dissenting members of WWE's board of directors. The attacks were carried out to force WWE management to grant the rebel board members the power to establish an adult oriented spin off brand which would cater to an older fan demographic. This new brand would be (kayfabe) run as a quasi-subsidiary with it's own small roster, titles, TV show and PPV schedule, and would be promoted seperately to the PG orientated WWE. Nexus would have been the first seven members of this new brand. More wrestlers would have been transferred over to it eventually.

[papagiorgio]

They never recovered from the loss at Summerslam. They shouldn't have had any large group defeats until Survivor Series. When John Cena was fired, but kept knocking them off, that was the final blow.

[Spankymac is sick of the swiss]

WWE was scared to let them look dominant for some reason. They got about a month's worth of actual "Big badass" points in then they ran into Cena, and they were just made to look like idiots time and time again.

[FinalGwen]

In a couple of years time when the dust has settled, I'd love to see some Rewriting The Book-type things on what could have happened had the Nexus been booked right and without the various disasters and injuries that occurred.

What buried them is the same thing that's burying everyone else in the locker room right now, WWE's reliance on Cena and Orton as unbeatable supermen.

[joey joe joe junior shabadoo]

Jun 22, 2011 18:05:03 GMT -5 CJ said:

Jun 22, 2011 17:47:02 GMT -5 joey joe joe junior shabadoo said:

I agree, but unfortunately I think it was too near to Wrestlemania for the WWE to be so adventurous creatively!

If they built up The Corre properly it would've been an even bigger storyline.
When Teddy Long was attacked, they could've had The Corre do it instead of Ziggler & Vickie.

Hell, why would Wade Barrett basically get owned by Punk and sent to The B-Show? So he can take it over!! He could have taken over as The GM. On RAW Gabriel & Slater "walk out" on CM Punk and move over to Smackdown with Barrett. Big Zeke joins in on the fun and The Corre can rule Smackdown with Wade Barrett as the evil GM.
After WrestleMania, they could've merged The Corre & The Nexus and revealed The Big Plan.

Wade Barrett realized that his current plan wasn't working, so he negotiated with CM Punk so they could split up The Nexus and rule both shows. With Wade as The GM on Smackdown and The Nexus as strong as ever on RAW...The True Nexus would rule the ENTIRE WWE with CM Punk & Wade Barrett at the helm

Oh yeah, that isn't even The Bigger Picture. That CM Punk/Wade Barrett take over plot was a last minute decision.
The Bigger Picture is The Anonymous GM in The Nexus's back pocket...


Not even John Cena can overcome those odds. It would take the entire roster

this would have only have worked if The Corre didn't have such a rubbish name and theme tune!

[joey joe joe junior shabadoo]

Jun 22, 2011 18:36:40 GMT -5 FinalGwen said:

In a couple of years time when the dust has settled, I'd love to see some Rewriting The Book-type things on what could have happened had the Nexus been booked right and without the various disasters and injuries that occurred.

Like an entire actual book that I can read? that would be amazing!