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Post by noleafclover1980 on Jun 24, 2011 16:44:00 GMT -5
Exactly. It takes time to find your niche. Ted DiBiase was 33 when he became the Million Dollar Man, and he had already been wrestling for 12 years at that point. Having been a big deal for about eight of those years. Fairly quickly?
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Post by dh03grad on Jun 25, 2011 0:59:18 GMT -5
Cena, Orton and Batista all got mega over less than 3 years in, Nash's theory is sheer BS.
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Post by wcw on Jun 25, 2011 1:46:04 GMT -5
Nash has a good point about guys needing to be in the business for a long time (10 years) before they reach that fiscal sweet spot.
I do think that WWE is doing a good job with this youth movement. Cena and Orton are 34 and 32 Vince knows those are his two top guys who will draw for the next 5 years and beyond. He also has some veteran guys like Kane, Big Show, Christian, Rey and HHH that can get guys over and draw well for the next 2-5 years.
So why wait 5 years for Orton and Cena to get older and the remaining vets to retire before you start building the next generation. Miz, Del Rio, Riley, Morrison, Kofi, Bryan, Swagger, and the rest of the youth movement will be in that fiscal prime of early to mid 30's in 5 years. Cena and Orton won't yet be forty and you now have replaced that older generation and still have some established guys.
Vince is smart he knows he has a lot of retirements going on in the next 2-7 years so why wait for those older guys to get old before you look for their replacements?
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Post by noleafclover1980 on Jun 25, 2011 3:25:08 GMT -5
Cena, Orton and Batista all got mega over less than 3 years in, Nash's theory is sheer BS. There are always exceptions top every rule.
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Post by dh03grad on Jun 25, 2011 10:32:41 GMT -5
Cena, Orton and Batista all got mega over less than 3 years in, Nash's theory is sheer BS. There are always exceptions top every rule. Look at all of the "top guys" in wrestling, the rule hasnt been toil in the mid card paying your dues like Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels. Goldberg, Warrior, Rock, Sting, Nash all got over quickly and their companies knew to roll with it
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Post by potpie on Jun 25, 2011 12:00:20 GMT -5
You need to effectively book an IC/US division before you even think about testing the guy out for a big feud. And there is nothing wrong with spending your mid/late twenties in a tag team while you figure out your niche. By the time you get to your thirties, then you would be able to be competent. I think though, that part of the reason guys shouldn't be main evening at 23 or 25 is that most would have just got out of college at that point. Anybody, no matter how good you are or at what age, is still gonna be green after two years. Annot to get ageist here, but 40 is really pushing it, considering how hard a wrestler trains and how many matches, injuries, travelling hours, etc. You just won't heal as fast at 40 as you did at 35.
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Post by noleafclover1980 on Jun 25, 2011 12:49:11 GMT -5
There are always exceptions top every rule. Look at all of the "top guys" in wrestling, the rule hasnt been toil in the mid card paying your dues like Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels. Goldberg, Warrior, Rock, Sting, Nash all got over quickly and their companies knew to roll with it I think everyone is so wrapped up in the age thing, people are forgetting the main point is it should be a natural progression. Take Rock, from your example. Yes Rock was young... he was also over pushed down peoples throats so hard that the crowd turned on him. Rock, thank god was charismatic enough to take it, create a great heel character, and salvage his career. Sting did get pretty popular early on in his career, but was at his most popular around '96 or '97... a good 10+ years into his career. Nash himself was 37 when the nWo angle took off, which could be said as his prime as far as drawing. Nash isn't saying it's a strict rule, just if someone takes off naturally, yes, run with it. But don't force the issue right out the gate.
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