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Post by Allison Reynolds on Apr 4, 2006 8:01:18 GMT -5
I remember my Wrestling Cliches thread, and one of the Cliches mentioned was that If you are of a different race you will most likely have a stereotyped gimmick. [eg: Samoan=savage, mid eastern=terrorist, British=Pompous, proper fellow] I guess it was right. Two things crossed my mind seeing this Jamal when he first came out I thought that they hired the Warrior mascot from The Hawaii Warriors Football team. Then once I noticed it was Jamal I thought "where's Afa and the raw chicken?" LadyThrilla hmmmm..
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Post by spacemann on Apr 4, 2006 8:16:54 GMT -5
I think this is one of those circumstances where Osama..excuse me "Armando" will be around alot longer then the wrestler he manages..bank on it
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Apr 4, 2006 8:37:25 GMT -5
It was odd thats for sure. I don't mind it in the least though. See how it pans out don't just dump on it immediately. Oh sorry I forgot, thats what y'all do round here. Hey, if you like it or see any good in this, great. I just can't see how Flair vs. Ungawa is going to do any good for anyone, this just has failure written all over it to me.
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Post by T Vang is a HO-DADDY~! on Apr 4, 2006 8:52:14 GMT -5
I remember my Wrestling Cliches thread, and one of the Cliches mentioned was that If you are of a different race you will most likely have a stereotyped gimmick. [eg: Samoan=savage, mid eastern=terrorist, British=Pompous, proper fellow] I guess it was right. Two things crossed my mind seeing this Jamal when he first came out I thought that they hired the Warrior mascot from The Hawaii Warriors Football team. Then once I noticed it was Jamal I thought "where's Afa and the raw chicken?" LadyThrilla hmmmm.. Wow, I have a feeling the WWE will be hearing from the U of H's legal department. I mean, couldn't they at least change the necklace??
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Post by amsiraK on Apr 4, 2006 9:02:56 GMT -5
I thought that was Jamal. I miss 3MW.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Apr 4, 2006 12:29:29 GMT -5
Hopefully this falls so flat that it's gone before they involve Flair too much in the story. Even if I were still a little kid, I'd think it was just a Kamala ripoff. Armando did nothing at all for me. Show me you can do something besides bug your eyes out and talk in an "I am a foreign devil" voice, and maybe we'll talk.
I still think he's too much like Tiger Ali Singh, and I still think this whole thing is a waste of Flair, Jamal, and tv time.
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Post by STMP on Apr 4, 2006 12:51:24 GMT -5
But euhm, those tats are the only cool thing. Why does he have to be a savage? Why can't he be just bad ass Samoan wrestler with bad ass tattoos? They tried that with 3MW....decided it didn't work, and now we have Umaga. Although I'd mark for a WWE version of Samoa Joe, which would have been better than Kamala/KimChee 2006 3MW wasn't bad ass to me. It was more like, 'yo we street!'. Bad ass is more like Joe, just a big samoan who can take a beating and will ask for more.
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Post by johncena on Apr 4, 2006 12:56:29 GMT -5
I like it. I like over the top old school gimmicks, they're entertaining. Also, from what I recall, Jamal was a pretty solid worker for a big man. Good agility, great size, certainly a hell of a lot bigger and tougher looking than fatboy Samoa Joe that's for sure.
And Armando has charisma out the bootyhole. He's an older, more advanced, more entertaining Carlito.
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Post by johncena on Apr 4, 2006 13:00:11 GMT -5
They tried that with 3MW....decided it didn't work, and now we have Umaga. Although I'd mark for a WWE version of Samoa Joe, which would have been better than Kamala/KimChee 2006 3MW wasn't bad ass to me. It was more like, 'yo we street!'. Bad ass is more like Joe, just a big samoan who can take a beating and will ask for more. I'm the complete opposite. I think 3MW looked like the kinda dudes you didnt wanna mess with, and would gladly cross the road to avoid walking by. Samoa Joe, on the other hand, looks like the kinda guy who'd just as soon ask if you're gonna eat that last fry as he would kick your ass.
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Post by starking18 on Apr 4, 2006 13:21:55 GMT -5
I wonder if this is going to be another Randy Culley in Demolition situation where the fans instantly recognize him and start chanting "Jamal" during his matches and forces the E to change the gimmick or atleast recognize him as being Jamal from 3MW.
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Post by audace12 on Apr 4, 2006 13:27:19 GMT -5
WTF is wrong with Vince?In the name of God,retire him change creative,that's the best that WWE can come out for the raw after WM?
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Post by Rorschach on Apr 4, 2006 13:28:22 GMT -5
3MW wasn't bad ass to me. It was more like, 'yo we street!'. Bad ass is more like Joe, just a big samoan who can take a beating and will ask for more. I'm the complete opposite. I think 3MW looked like the kinda dudes you didnt wanna mess with, and would gladly cross the road to avoid walking by. Samoa Joe, on the other hand, looks like the kinda guy who'd just as soon ask if you're gonna eat that last fry as he would kick your ass. True Smark, I HAD to quote that....since that was what I was thinking exactly! Joe doesn't scream "badass" to me on appearance alone. 3MW? Those big bastards would scare the hell outta me, had I encountered them in a dark alley....
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Post by STMP on Apr 4, 2006 13:37:52 GMT -5
3MW wasn't bad ass to me. It was more like, 'yo we street!'. Bad ass is more like Joe, just a big samoan who can take a beating and will ask for more. I'm the complete opposite. I think 3MW looked like the kinda dudes you didnt wanna mess with, and would gladly cross the road to avoid walking by. Samoa Joe, on the other hand, looks like the kinda guy who'd just as soon ask if you're gonna eat that last fry as he would kick your ass. I just don't think anyone older than 20 should dress up like a street thug. Just look at Konnan. BTW, 3MW are a lot fatter than Joe, who is just chubby.
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Post by bigHEADinc on Apr 4, 2006 13:38:43 GMT -5
I'll be honest, I didn't even see Raw, but I marked at pictures of Umaga...
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Post by Brickstone Kid on Apr 4, 2006 13:55:52 GMT -5
I think this is a swing at Samoa Joe. Yeah...this kinda looks like the WWE's answer to Samoa Joe. This is Vince and companies way of saying, "Hey, we had big Samoan guys before you did, and we still know how to use them!"
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