Licence to Kill
Tommy Wiseau
Dance into the fire..to fatal sounds of broken dreams
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Post by Licence to Kill on Dec 8, 2010 16:09:16 GMT -5
I'm always hoping she lets out an accidental fart into the camera. I think that would be hilarious
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Post by veldfire on Dec 8, 2010 16:16:49 GMT -5
And yet Stacy was and arguably still is more over then Velvet could dream of being. I'm not comparing working for the (more followed then to boot) WWE vs working for TNA in terms of recog. Also i wouldn't say she is more charismatic, but I'd agree with mic work. But even then Velvet is just decent at best. I'd say she's more than just decent at best. I wouldn't say she's the best women in the biz on the mic. But she's quite a bit closer to the top than the bottom. Velvet actually has some substance. She can play an interesting character. Stacy was almost wholly support not needed gimmick.
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ICBM
King Koopa
Didn't know we did status updates here now
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Post by ICBM on Dec 8, 2010 16:21:57 GMT -5
^agreed
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Post by clashofchampains on Dec 8, 2010 16:23:02 GMT -5
Personally, I'd be more concerned over the flagrant sexism involved here rather than how many others did it first. There's nothing sexist about it. Women are beautiful and we should appreciate it.
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BigAl
Unicron
Hands of the Wicked Banana
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Post by BigAl on Dec 8, 2010 16:23:17 GMT -5
And yet Stacy was and arguably still is more over then Velvet could dream of being. I'm not comparing working for the (more followed then to boot) WWE vs working for TNA in terms of recog. Also i wouldn't say she is more charismatic, but I'd agree with mic work. But even then Velvet is just decent at best. I'd say she's more than just decent at best. I wouldn't say she's the best women in the biz on the mic. But she's quite a bit closer to the top than the bottom. Velvet actually has some substance. She can play an interesting character. Stacy was almost wholly support not needed gimmick. i think Angelina has a better mic skill, just look at Angelinas work when she was the top heel in tNA, the contract singing with Kong bit, or when she won the belt. I doubt Velvet could have poulled that off.
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Post by casualobserver on Dec 8, 2010 16:30:45 GMT -5
I'm always hoping she lets out an accidental fart into the camera. I think that would be hilarious Only if baby powder is used.
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Post by veldfire on Dec 8, 2010 16:31:57 GMT -5
I'm not comparing working for the (more followed then to boot) WWE vs working for TNA in terms of recog. I'd say she's more than just decent at best. I wouldn't say she's the best women in the biz on the mic. But she's quite a bit closer to the top than the bottom. Velvet actually has some substance. She can play an interesting character. Stacy was almost wholly support not needed gimmick. i think Angelina has a better mic skill, just look at Angelinas work when she was the top heel in tNA, the contract singing with Kong bit, or when she won the belt. I doubt Velvet could have poulled that off. I agree here. Angelina is better than Velvet on the mic. As well as more talented overall. That has nothing to do with how Velvet compares to Stacy in talent though.
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Post by Azrael from Outerspace on Dec 8, 2010 16:41:13 GMT -5
And yet Stacy was and arguably still is more over then Velvet could dream of being. I'm not comparing working for the (more followed then to boot) WWE vs working for TNA in terms of recog. Also i wouldn't say she is more charismatic, but I'd agree with mic work. But even then Velvet is just decent at best. I'd say she's more than just decent at best. I wouldn't say she's the best women in the biz on the mic. But she's quite a bit closer to the top than the bottom. Velvet actually has some substance. She can play an interesting character. Stacy was almost wholly support not needed gimmick. Both are average workers. Really i see no difference between the two except one is vastly more over. And Stacy should get some credit for getting over so much on so little substance. It wasn't just her body just like it isn't just Velvets body. Plus i do think if the Federation gave her more depth she would have shined. Also can you show me at least 2 promos were her mic skills are good(better then decent). I'm curious as truthfully i stopped watching TNA before she came in and haven't really followed much. I also really dig Velvet. Saw her in Jersey some years ago before TNA. She was cool peoples.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Dec 8, 2010 16:43:46 GMT -5
Who cares if Stacy looks better! I don't care. The more the merrier! Preach it!
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Celgress
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
The Superior One
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Post by Celgress on Dec 8, 2010 17:43:07 GMT -5
Personally, I'd be more concerned over the flagrant sexism involved here rather than how many others did it first. There's nothing sexist about it. Women are beautiful and we should appreciate it. Agreed, hurray for hotties.
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Big L
Grimlock
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Post by Big L on Dec 8, 2010 17:50:59 GMT -5
Velvet can bend over all she wants. Hell yeah!
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Post by casualobserver on Dec 8, 2010 18:06:40 GMT -5
I like these debates. Everybody wins!
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Post by Bram wants to 'urt you on Dec 8, 2010 18:23:59 GMT -5
Pish and tish (and possibly Trish), Mae Young was doing it and doing it better before Velvet and Stacy's respective grandparents were even born. Oh. Sorry, turned into Jerry Lawler for a minute there.
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NOwave
Don Corleone
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Post by NOwave on Dec 8, 2010 18:38:36 GMT -5
Velvet Sky bending over......and the eyes of every hetero male tuned in or in attendance are watching. Carefully. Thus, the audience likes it and TNA appreciates the attention. Everyone wins. End of story.
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Post by Shy Guy on Dec 8, 2010 18:43:11 GMT -5
stacy is hotter.
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Celgress
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
The Superior One
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Post by Celgress on Dec 8, 2010 19:06:59 GMT -5
Says you
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Post by veldfire on Dec 8, 2010 19:18:40 GMT -5
Both are average workers. Stacy wasn't an average worker at all imo. For much of her career, she was a virtual peer to slightly below Torrie Wilson. I say for much as Torrie improved enough toward the latter times to be a clear enough step above. I give Stacy credit for squeezing every last bit out of an almost strictly gimmick run. That's fair I think. Also can you show me at least 2 promos were her mic skills are good(better then decent). I'm curious as truthfully i stopped watching TNA before she came in and haven't really followed much. I also really dig Velvet. Saw her in Jersey some years ago before TNA. She was cool peoples. Wait a sec. You haven't really seen much if any of Velvet's character work in TNA but slotted her into Stacy level anyway? Anyhow, if you've got youtube access you should be able to hunt down vid clips from her heel run in the BP1 from '08 and much of '09.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 8, 2010 19:42:13 GMT -5
While true, I'm still firmly on my platform of 'equal opportunity for rope exhibition'.
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Post by Kash Flagg on Dec 8, 2010 19:46:03 GMT -5
Are we really having an argument about two women's asses?
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 8, 2010 19:50:11 GMT -5
Are we really having an argument about two women's asses? All we are saying.. is give piece a chance. I apologize for that horrific pun.
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