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Post by wcw on Apr 15, 2011 22:46:15 GMT -5
Jim Cornette said it best Vince Russo doesn't consider himself to be a booker he considers himself to be a television writer. All in all I think that Russo isn't not a fan of the prototypical wrestling dynamic BUT he doesn't have enough new ideas to move the business forward.
His ideas were revolutionary in the 90's but 12 years removed from 1999 those ideas are no longer revolutionary but rather dated. Those "shoot" comments, swerves, shades of gray characters, and hot shotting have been done for a long time now.
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Post by Corporate H on Apr 16, 2011 5:31:52 GMT -5
How do you not understand good/bad? Hasn't this guy checked out the Bible?
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Apr 16, 2011 6:04:24 GMT -5
How do you not understand good/bad? Hasn't this guy checked out the Bible? thank you. like i've never liked the dude, but this (if true) borderline's on just moronic. it's the basis of almost all conflict ANYWHERE. movies, comic books, fables, etc....how can someone NOT get that. i hope i get to meet him in person one day so i can ask him. |
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Post by Bram wants to 'urt you on Apr 16, 2011 9:15:23 GMT -5
I remember reading about Russo's difficulty understanding heels and faces, but read it not that he doesn't get the basics (good guy vs bad guy, which is a fairly straightforward concept) rather that he doesn't get how to MAKE someone into a heel/face. The days where the heel used cheating to win a match, would do whatever it takes to get the victory and would bend the rules as far as they could, whereas the face, erm, wouldn't are long past now. There are a lot more shades of grey out there.
As I read it, Russo's problem was how you turn a wrestler from a heel to a face (and judging by the writing/creative style he employs, he still struggles with this concept).
A problem he could have of course is that a television writer (as opposed to a wrestling booker) doesn't have to create stories/angles based on the active crowd response. In wrestling, by and large, the fans dictate who is face and who is heel, the booker/writer's job is simply to respond to that with matches and storylines. Russo comes from the school of writing where you create a story/feud/match and then try and fit whatever wrestlers you are currently high on into that framework. Which is why, I think, he has such a hard time getting it right.
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Post by Session Moth is over on Apr 16, 2011 9:22:08 GMT -5
I am genuinely confused how someone who has been booking wrestling as long he as has doesn't get faces and heels.  I don't think that he doesn't understand it, it's just that maybe he doesn't see the need for it. Maybe he thinks that they should just throw wrestlers out there and let the fans decide who they want to cheer/boo. That could be why so many characters in TNA are booked with such ambiguity. Yeah that pretty much explains what Vince Russo means. Of course he knows what heels and faces are, come on its obvious by "I dont get it" he more or less means he just doesn't see the point of booking all storylines with heels vs faces. As you said it would explain why there are so many turns. |
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Post by Andrew is Good on Apr 16, 2011 10:33:37 GMT -5
I guess it's one reason why guys are turned willy nilly. Sadly, another reason why Russo needs to go.
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Post by machomuta on Apr 16, 2011 12:43:53 GMT -5
Am I the only one who doesn't buy that Dutch Mantel, responsible for some of the worst stuff, was suddenly this wrestling centric guy? Dutch Mantel is way more wrestling centric then Russo. Dutch´s worst stuff is still way better then some of the crap Russo booked. |
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