Toates Madhackrviper
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Aug 9, 2011 15:14:59 GMT -5
One little thought I have about the whole floaters being useful or not thing. The thing about Big Brother is that Comps matter a HELL of a lot more in BB than they do in Survivor. HOH and Veto are legitimate game changing power. Having numbers on your side is not enough. Having even one enemy in the game can spell your end if things go really bad for you. The problem with making an alliance of people who don't win competitions [which is what Rachel and now Jeff mean by "floaters" even though to me floater is a term that applies more to your position in the house strategically] is that you NEED people on your side who can win HOHs and Vetos. If you are your alliance's only strong challenge competitor... you're f***ed. I've seen it happen in two Big Brother ORGs in a row. Big alliance with numbers where only one or two of the players are good at competitions get dominated by the alliance of three or four who are all good at competitions. One of them was even a Big Brother 13 ORG and the challenge whore alliance was the vets. In the later example Brendon and Dick both sold the veteran alliance [Jordeff, Dani, and Rachel] out to the newbs because they liked the newbs more but then since only Cassi really had all that much skill in challenges the smaller veteran alliance managed to decimate the newbs. That's the danger you run when you choose to align with the weak for numbers sake. That's just one perspective but seeing htis happen in two huge Big Brother ORGs in a row has really gotten me thinking really hard about the differences between Big Brother strategy and Survivor strategy when it comes to numbers and allies with challenge ability. Oh and re: Berg's spoiler {Spoiler}NOOOO LAWON NOOOOOOOOOO YOU ARE FAR AND AWAY MY FAVORITE DONT DO STUPID SHIT
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Post by King Boo on Aug 9, 2011 15:27:39 GMT -5
I think it depends. I mean, look at Dr. Will. I know it was season two and there were things added to the game since then that changes things up but his whole thing was not winning a single challenge because he knew it would a) make him look like more of a threat and b) it would put him in a position of doing things that would put more heat on him. There's something to be said for that approach, especially since for him it worked.
It all really comes down to the dynamics of the houseguests, I think.
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Post by MGH on Aug 10, 2011 20:03:30 GMT -5
I have no words.
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Post by thegreatnodnarb on Aug 10, 2011 20:06:40 GMT -5
Idiots. All of them. I was glad to finally see it play out though. Evel Dick on his Twitter had been talking up how dumb they were the whole week. He was right.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2011 20:08:56 GMT -5
How am I just now finding out about this thread?!? I've been looking for some serious Big Brother discussion since the season started and the freakin' Jokers chat is full of idiots just bashing each others' favorites.
Anyway........>Haha Lawon. You big dummy. Dude just put himself in Marcellus territory in terms of stupid moves.
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Post by MGH on Aug 10, 2011 20:09:28 GMT -5
How naive is this woman? If only life was so simple that you could tell someone a straight up lie, and they believe it every time. "Hey, I know I told you 100 times that I was coming to evict you, and Rachel hates you, but now I promise I'll be good if you spare my entire alliance mmmmmmkay?" "OKAY! !" Good lord. Jeff is disgusting, and it's even more pathetic that his bullying actually worked on one of these women.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2011 20:19:25 GMT -5
Good lord. Jeff is disgusting, and it's even more pathetic that his bullying actually worked on one of these women. This is my problem with the "Jeff bullies women!" idea. Umm......aside from Brendan the only people with power this season have been women. Is he supposed to bully Adam into growing his beard back or something? He might act like a bully, but it's working for him so far. It's just good to see that Kalia is a weak enough person to give into it. Daniele really picked a winner to align with didn't she? I can easily see Kalia going back to the other side if they get power this week.
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Post by MGH on Aug 11, 2011 20:49:27 GMT -5
...no. f***ing. way.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Aug 11, 2011 20:54:55 GMT -5
Well, Im done. The show is rigged.
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Post by BigJerichool222 on Aug 11, 2011 20:55:15 GMT -5
I'm done with this season.
It was doomed from the second Evel Dick left.
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Post by King Boo on Aug 11, 2011 20:55:42 GMT -5
I think I'm out for this season.
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Post by MGH on Aug 11, 2011 20:57:13 GMT -5
Outside of calling it straight out rigged (which? With this show I wouldn't be shocked. The diary room has changed outcomes for god's sake) the only explanation I have is that the insane rabid Jeff and Jordan fans are so desperate for them to stay that they did whatever they had to do to give them the numbers again.
I'm teetering on just giving up on this season unless Dani or ...well, I guess Dani, wins HOH this time. Otherwise this is a pathetic cake walk to a predictable finish.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2011 20:58:09 GMT -5
Hahahahahahahhahhaahaha.
This could not be more delicious for the time being.
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Post by thegreatnodnarb on Aug 11, 2011 21:01:26 GMT -5
I'm sure Brendon got the votes from Jeff/Jordan fans not to mention that Dominic/Cassi split the votes among their fans.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2011 21:03:06 GMT -5
I'm sure Brendon got the votes from Jeff/Jordan fans not to mention that Dominic/Cassi split the votes among their fans. Exactly. Plus there had to be some serious diehard Brenchel fans out there that voted too. Not to mention the 1 or 2 votes that Keith took away from Cassie and Dom.
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Post by thegreatnodnarb on Aug 11, 2011 21:05:54 GMT -5
I admit to voting for Keith once.
On a side note, the Regulators can now go down as the worst alliance in Big Brother history.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2011 21:14:56 GMT -5
I didn't vote a single time, but I would have voted for Brendon.
Anyway if you guys want to quit watching the show I understand. I've only checked into it the past two weeks during Dani and Kalia's HOH reigns.
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Post by Rave on Aug 11, 2011 21:30:02 GMT -5
.....really? REALLY, CBS? REALLY?
This shit's rigged.
And while I'm at it, I would like to state my belief that Evel Dick had no personal emergencies and his departure was planned in order to give Daniele the first golden key.
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Post by Jazzman on Aug 11, 2011 22:03:07 GMT -5
Ok, from just listening to people yesterday who were talking about the show in public, I think the reason Brendon won the vote is because of the 4 people, he at least has some kind of personality that people can gravitate towars and makes some kind of TV.
The other reason I think is that I'm sure that Brenchel haters played a role here. Up until Wed, which is when the Magic Lawon plan went live on TV, everyone probably thought Rachel was dead, and what would be better irony to one of the great BB villains of all-time to have her battle it out with her man to stay in the game. It would have been the biggest piece of irony for Rachel to swallow.
I'm not going to jump to it being rigged right away and if some of you are done with the season I get that. This just kinda makes thing a little interesting again and allows me to get my eventual Brenchel/Jorff war of the gods.
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Post by ICBM on Aug 11, 2011 22:13:32 GMT -5
I could care less about a JJ vs Bredenn and Rachel War of the Gods...but that is a funny way of saying it so cool points to you. Hate listening to Rachel dudes hate it. At first when I saw her back I was happy because on her behalf Brenden held it down last year, but after her 20+minutes of screentime(If CBS showed 20+min. edited for content/time than that likely=15hours realtime) crying over the last three episodes
Hope Rachel goes next. Don't care for Dani or Kalia(floater, Pennywise will get ur arse) and I am one of the non-crazy Jeff and Jordan fans
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