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Post by Paco on Jan 1, 2012 7:50:51 GMT -5
(Glad to see that, judging by the numerous Fs, moderation & reason prevail, as usual) Indeed. There's some in between... That being said, it doesn't give TNA that much leeway, I'll give them a D+. |
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jan 1, 2012 9:53:39 GMT -5
I give it a D
Good - The Fourtune faceturn, Roode winning the BFG series, James Storm climbing up the card, Jeff Jarrett being entertaining, Velvet winning the KO Title (should have happened at Lockdown 2010), Winter winning the KO Title, Eric Young, Tessmacher's hotness, the X-Division, Matt Morgan looking like he would become a regular main eventer, and Christopher Daniels being back.
Bad - The Victory Road incident, Jeff Hardy returns and is still in the high card, the never ending Angle vs Jarrett feud (despite Jarrett being entertaining), the never ending Mickie vs Madison feud, Gail returns, dominates, and Velvet, Winter, Angelina, Sarita and Rosita get shoved aside big time, no pay off for Karen running the Knockouts, Pope being wasted, no payoff for Winter drugging Angelina, Immortal is still around and wasn't destroyed at BFG (another angle with no payoff), Crimson, Gunner, and Garett getting big pushes, Matt Morgan and Crimson as tag champs, Roode losing at BFG, Roode turning heel, Mr Anderson, and Dixie Carter's on screen character.
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Post by adouble on Jan 1, 2012 15:14:44 GMT -5
C+ just because they were finally able to mostly take the focus off old guys like Hogan and put it on guys like Roode and Storm. The X Division had a decent rejuvenation(could still be better), Bully Ray blew me away with his heel work this year, and for the last few months the shows have been overall pretty entertaining.
I do still have to take off points because of all the really bad stuff(Hogan, Garrett Bischoff, the Jeff Hardy incident, Abyss as X Champion, Angle/Jarrett, Crimson, etc.), but TNA's definetly had worse years.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Jan 1, 2012 17:17:53 GMT -5
I stopped watching. So F.
And I'm not trying to be ultra negative. I'm one of the TNA fans they wanted. I bought pay per views. I actually saw the Victory Road incident, and for the most part, they had more good matches then bad. I didn't see Jeff coming to the ring as I went to get something during the entrances. So that finish really shocked me.
But, on one hand they wanted me, but on the other hand, they didn't care about me, in regards to dumb finishes on pay per view, not building to some, and at the end, I just didn't care about watching, even up till Bound for Glory. I was finding myself missing more and more shows. They have guys who don't care. Vince Russo destroyed Samoa Joe's career. If not Russo, the creative team.
Pope vs Joe was painful. Pope vs Devon went on way too long. The Knockouts were renamed "The Whores". Winter debuting was awful, and it ended up going no where. Too much Hogan and Bischoff. Finishes were repeated. And it all came to a head with Robert Roode at Bound for Glory, further killing their pay per view business. I've listened to Review an Impact recently as I find the commentary funny, and with Bobby Roode, it seems like the heel turn is fine, and it's a detailed heel turn in which they don't say a guy is a heel on tv and that's it. They're actually talking about Bobby's life, and he's not just bad for the sake of being bad. But, they could have did this turn AFTER BFG. It shows that they will never give the fans that epic moment, especially on pay per view. They maybe building up James Storm to take the title from Roode in a year or less, but I don't feel that will happen, because they just want to swerve.
When thinking about something going logically, you really have to think, no, this is TNA, they won't do things logically. Basically, think of something that makes sense, do the opposite, and you get what will happen.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2012 17:38:46 GMT -5
F, I am a casual viewer and what I saw was for the most part not very good. I found myself watching less and less, to the point that now it's virtually nil.
In the interest of not being utterly and completely negative, I will say that some bright spots were Roode/Storm becoming main eventers, Bully Ray, JJ MMA enthusiast/banished to Mexico, and Hostage Taking Bird.
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Post by Big L on Jan 1, 2012 20:41:34 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2012 22:38:21 GMT -5
F - Every time I try to watch TNA, I feel embarrassing to be an wrestling fan.
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Post by blues on Jan 2, 2012 10:25:05 GMT -5
E for effort and some hot chicks.
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Post by 8.2.11/SAVIOR_NEZ on Jan 2, 2012 12:02:33 GMT -5
I stopped watching. So F. And I'm not trying to be ultra negative. I'm one of the TNA fans they wanted. I bought pay per views. I actually saw the Victory Road incident, and for the most part, they had more good matches then bad. I didn't see Jeff coming to the ring as I went to get something during the entrances. So that finish really shocked me. But, on one hand they wanted me, but on the other hand, they didn't care about me, in regards to dumb finishes on pay per view, not building to some, and at the end, I just didn't care about watching, even up till Bound for Glory. I was finding myself missing more and more shows. They have guys who don't care. Vince Russo destroyed Samoa Joe's career. If not Russo, the creative team. Pope vs Joe was painful. Pope vs Devon went on way too long. The Knockouts were renamed "The Whores". Winter debuting was awful, and it ended up going no where. Too much Hogan and Bischoff. Finishes were repeated. And it all came to a head with Robert Roode at Bound for Glory, further killing their pay per view business. I've listened to Review an Impact recently as I find the commentary funny, and with Bobby Roode, it seems like the heel turn is fine, and it's a detailed heel turn in which they don't say a guy is a heel on tv and that's it. They're actually talking about Bobby's life, and he's not just bad for the sake of being bad. But, they could have did this turn AFTER BFG. It shows that they will never give the fans that epic moment, especially on pay per view. They maybe building up James Storm to take the title from Roode in a year or less, but I don't feel that will happen, because they just want to swerve. When thinking about something going logically, you really have to think, no, this is TNA, they won't do things logically. Basically, think of something that makes sense, do the opposite, and you get what will happen. You said what I wanted to say, only better. The only time I really felt I was enjoying TNA was during the Destination X buildup. That ppv was one of the best of the year for any company. Everything else tested my patience as a wrestling fan to the point that after watching BFG, I was done. I can't take any more of the swerving, yo-yo pushes, and TV booking that makes it feel like you've been watching Impact for 5 hours. Because all of this made me lose complete interest in the company, TNA gets an F from me this year. |
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Post by The Ichi on Jan 2, 2012 12:20:57 GMT -5
Ouch, these results. loll
That said, I give them an F because I was finding the product so miserable at one point that I had to stop watching. I even gave them a second chance and watched Bound for Glory, but outside of a couple of decent matches, it was, without hyperbole, one of the worst PPVs I have ever seen.
I'm honestly curious to hear from the 3 people who gave it an A+ with reasons why.
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Post by grunt on Jan 2, 2012 13:43:14 GMT -5
I'm honestly curious to hear from the 3 people who gave it an A+ with reasons why. Probably because they like the show, but since temperance doesn't exist on those boards, they went straight to A+, in order to compensate for all the Fs. Silly, but I get the feeling. It's just one of those things, just like I'll never understand how more than 60% of voters feel this year in WWE has been good to very good, when I feel its booking has been desastrous, and (to quote a crapper in this thread) every time I watch Raw, I almost feel embarrassed to be an wrestling fan. |
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 2, 2012 13:55:22 GMT -5
I'm honestly curious to hear from the 3 people who gave it an A+ with reasons why. Probably because they like the show, but since temperance doesn't exist on those boards, they went straight to A+, in order to compensate for all the Fs. Silly, but I get the feeling. It's just one of those things, just like I'll never understand how more than 60% of voters feel this year in WWE has been good to very good, when I feel its booking has been desastrous, and (to quote a crapper in this thread) every time I watch Raw, I almost feel embarrassed to be an wrestling fan. You know the phrase "opinions are like assholes; everyone got one"? A number of people thought TNA last year was alright to horrible. Let's not compare the grades of what WWE got to TNA because that's like comparing a pro football team to a high school football team. Not fair for either parties. And I will keep saying this, this board has a rule about LOL TNA SUX. Everyone who posted in this thread explained why they thought it deserved their grade. Voting A+ just because and not saying why is not changing people's viewpoint. If you thought they did an A+, stand by it. Don't do a troll vote. It's not like TNA is going out of business because what some fans on a message board said about them. |
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Post by Michael Coello on Jan 2, 2012 13:59:13 GMT -5
And I will keep saying this, this board has a rule about LOL TNA SUX. Everyone who posted in this thread explained why they thought it deserved their grade. So, 66 people gave their opinions in 31 posts?  |
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 2, 2012 14:10:23 GMT -5
And I will keep saying this, this board has a rule about LOL TNA SUX. Everyone who posted in this thread explained why they thought it deserved their grade. So, 66 people gave their opinions in 31 posts? The ones ballsy enough to stand by it did. |
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Post by sybaku on Jan 2, 2012 14:42:28 GMT -5
F
I started the year a diehard TNA fan, but months of me defending they're low brow racism or potty humor, months of EY's "comedy", random appearances from Jersey Shore "stars", all combined with 10-30 minute Bischoff/Hogan promos has made cancel them from my DVR, its sad because TNA has amazing talent and gives people like Austin Aries a chance.. but all the amazing talent in the world doesn't help when the shows writing is such a abysmal wreck... I'm not swearing them off for good and I might even give them a chance (I've been reading spoilers and started to get interested again) but this year was a disaster imo
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Post by grunt on Jan 2, 2012 14:54:12 GMT -5
You know the phrase "opinions are like assholes; everyone got one"? A number of people thought TNA last year was alright to horrible. Let's not compare the grades of what WWE got to TNA because that's like comparing a pro football team to a high school football team. Not fair for either parties. True. But you'd think people would be harsher/less lenient (or at least have higher standards) with the pro team than on the high school one, not the contrary. Never said the contrary. Although the same goes the other way : I don't get giving a definite F (= nothing to save or to enjoy, ever) if I liked the buildup to a PPV + the PPV, or a storyline, ie if I enjoyed at least something. My mind just can't work in such absolutes. Funny how, when TNA's booking is bad, "TNA should listen to the internet, we're their only audience, without us, they're nothing, and they won't survive." And now it's "TNA won't go out of business because the internet doesn't like them, so who cares...?" |
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 2, 2012 15:12:49 GMT -5
It's funny that you are generalizing the board.
Let's face facts. Some people liked TNA last year, others didn't. Nothing you say, I say, or anyone else say is going to change opinions here.
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Post by Cyno on Jan 2, 2012 15:38:41 GMT -5
As long as people are honest about it and not doing it to be contrary for the sake of contrary or to stick it (brother) to the rest of the board, I don't care if someone gives TNA or WWE an A+ or an F. I'll respect it as long as they aren't being dickwads about it.
Last year I think I gave TNA a D because there were a couple of things I liked that still kept me watching, but overall I thought it was really bad. This year I thought was a distinct improvement, but still very much mediocre. Mediocrity deserves a C, the very definition of mediocrity that is unremarkable in every way, though that includes not being remarkably bad.
If someone is so turned off by a company that they stopped watching, then TNA completely deserves an F from them. Because that is the definition of failure. On the other hand, if someone thinks TNA was the best thing since sliced bread, then by all means give it an A.
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Post by Michael Coello on Jan 2, 2012 16:28:20 GMT -5
I was just mentioning that for all the talk of the F being the overall rating, less than half the people here are people who gave it that. 8 posters out of 19, at the moment. The rest are no shows. Contrast to the Cs or even the Ds, as most of the posters that did give those ratings shared them.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Jan 2, 2012 16:56:25 GMT -5
F......even though I havent watched the show since 2010, I have seen ppv results and read show results and I was just flabbergasted by just how bad things were.
* We had lawsuits that exposed TNA for the lowlifes that they are and for the first time for TNA, we had talent who basically chose the indys over them.
* We had people leaving because TNA basically paid pennies to its employees and yet still expects them to do dangerous stuff.
* When we thought TNA decided to get the belt off Jeff because of his drug issues, TNA basically says "We fooled you" and immediately Jeff gets the belt back.
* I guess I dont have to mention the fact that many here knew Jeff was showing up to shows messed up, but there were those who defended TNA and told us we were all lying. Turns out we weren't lying as Jeff messed up Victory Road
* We have TNA basically kill its once great tag division
* We had a pathetic rebranding which basically turned out to be just putting new paint on an old busted up car
Only recently has the company somewhat gotten a freaking clue by ending the Hogan-Bischoff regime (mostly writing those two off our TV) and getting someone new to be the head booker. However, I still can't give them anything higher than an F because even then, they still do stuff that just basically tells me as a consumer that I can go to hell.
TNA is basically Late AWA in situation with Late WCW in booking
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