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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Jan 1, 2012 20:54:09 GMT -5
... as a wrestler? I know he developed an ego over his active years as a wrestler, but I don't remember him being that terrible in the ring. He was young, athletic and strong, although he was alittle short. He paid his dues losing as a member of the Young Stallions, had a nice little run as a member of Power and Glory, and won tag gold with Arn Anderson and Paul Orndorff in WCW.
He's mostly remembered for being the most infamous member of the 4 horsemen and is often buried for that, including on the WWE's 4 Horsemen dvd.
So What was so bad about him in the ring?
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Post by Crusty Ruffles on Jan 1, 2012 20:55:54 GMT -5
It's not so much that he was bad; it's that he just really wasn't that good.
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Post by sludgehammer on Jan 1, 2012 21:08:11 GMT -5
Power and Glory was one of my favorite teams. Their offense was brutal
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 1, 2012 21:14:02 GMT -5
He was the original CAW. Literally nothing made him stand out.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2012 21:14:40 GMT -5
I don't remember much of his ring work so that tells me that it was garbage. Also, douchebag hadn't enter the popular lexicon when I was a kid, but from looking at him I knew that he was a complete ass.
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Post by Big Daddy Bad Booking on Jan 1, 2012 21:15:35 GMT -5
He was not as good as he claimed to be. It's a mixture of ego and accomplishment (aka lack of any) that's led to his out-of-favor status. His comments from the 'Horseman' DVD are probably some of the most obviously conceited verbage yet.
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Jan 1, 2012 21:22:47 GMT -5
People always say that wins and losses don't matter in wrestling, yet I kinda feel bad for Roma because he's known for being "the job guy from the WWF (Triple H's words)", and the stigma followed him to WCW when he became a Horseman.
What was so bad about him becoming a Horseman, though? I know at the time being a Horseman meant that you had to adhear to a high standard (what that standard was, I don't know), and people were expecting Tully instead of Roma, but he brought some gold to the group, unlike previous Horseman Sid Vicious. And on the dvd, Flair called him a "glorified gym rat", but wouldn't being in the best physical shape and having a good look be a benefit to the group?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2012 21:30:51 GMT -5
People always say that wins and losses don't matter in wrestling, yet I kinda feel bad for Roma because he's known for being "the job guy from the WWF (Triple H's words)", and the stigma followed him to WCW when he became a Horseman. What was so bad about him becoming a Horseman, though? I know at the time being a Horseman meant that you had to adhear to a high standard (what that standard was, I don't know), and people were expecting Tully instead of Roma, but he brought some gold to the group, unlike previous Horseman Sid Vicious. And on the dvd, Flair called him a "glorified gym rat", but wouldn't being in the best physical shape and having a good look be a benefit to the group? Flair's use of "glorified gym rat" implies that he looked the part of a wrestler, but he had no skill whatsoever. As for Roma bringing gold to the Horseman unlike Sid, Sid brought an intimidating presence and loads of charisma, two things that Roma never had. Dude sucked out loud. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2012 21:36:24 GMT -5
Aside from having a good look, nothing about the guy stood out at all. He wasn't a good technical wrestler. He wasn't really a high flyer. He wasn't a power wrestler. He wasn't an exceptional brawler. And to top it all off, he had no charisma at all to speak of. He wasn't terrible, but he was just...meh. Jobber material.
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Post by repomanfan on Jan 1, 2012 21:41:11 GMT -5
He couldn't get "over". That was his only problem. Why he couldn't get "over" is any body's guess. I doubt it had much to do with his wrestling ability.
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Post by chazraps on Jan 1, 2012 21:59:29 GMT -5
Roma > Mongo
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Jan 1, 2012 22:52:33 GMT -5
Roma had a hell of a dropkick and was incredibly strong. I remember seeing him pick up Animal and give him 3 backbreakers across his knee without putting him down... VERY impressive.
I knew I was disappointed that Tully wasn't there, and I know I wasn't the only one, as I watched a match with Arn and Roma against 2 jobbers and the crowd broke out a 'Tully' chant at one point.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Jan 1, 2012 22:53:16 GMT -5
Only just. If we're having a "worst Horseman" contest, in my opinion, those are the only two contenders. |
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Post by sludgehammer on Jan 1, 2012 23:57:45 GMT -5
ugh seriously watch some Power and Glory matches. They were a fun powerhouse/brawler tag team with a lot of devastating looking moves. Hercules would superplex a dude and Roma was like flying off the ropes in the middle of the superplex to catch him as he hit the mat. It was awesome.
I'm not saying Roma was great or anything, but I've always felt his work with Hercules was extremely underrated. They should have been around for a couple more years and held the tag team belts. Once the Road Warriors squashed them they had no chance
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 1, 2012 23:59:05 GMT -5
Power and Glory were a pretty good team, but Roma was out of his element being in the Horsemen.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jan 2, 2012 0:44:32 GMT -5
Only just. If we're having a "worst Horseman" contest, in my opinion, those are the only two contenders. While Roma was probably a better worker, I'd say Mongo was a better Horseman. If nothing else Mongo had the Horseman attitude down pat. You could tell being a Horseman was something special to him. To Roma it was just another angle he was in. |
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Post by repomanfan on Jan 2, 2012 1:43:28 GMT -5
Only just. If we're having a "worst Horseman" contest, in my opinion, those are the only two contenders. Jeff Jarrett, Sting, Sid....Nothing against any of those guys but they did not belong in the Horsemen. |
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Jan 2, 2012 1:58:17 GMT -5
Only just. If we're having a "worst Horseman" contest, in my opinion, those are the only two contenders. Jeff Jarrett, Sting, Sid....Nothing against any of those guys but they did not belong in the Horsemen. I dunno. Jarrett, I feel, fit the Horseman image to a tee in those days, it's just that the story being told around it was kind of...bad. Same with Sting. Sid, well.....I don't like Sid period, so I'm inclined to agree with you, but at the same time, I don't think he outcrapped Mongo or Roma in that role. |
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Jan 2, 2012 2:46:59 GMT -5
I think that the whole horsemen angle was a wash at that point because they promised to get the original horsemen back together, but ole didn't do anything past that initial appearance and there was no tully. Then Roma takes the spot and despite being called the 4 horsemen, there were only 3 of them, and they were faces who really didn't have anyone other than the Blondes to feud with.
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Post by chazraps on Jan 2, 2012 3:50:21 GMT -5
Only just. If we're having a "worst Horseman" contest, in my opinion, those are the only two contenders. While Roma was probably a better worker, I'd say Mongo was a better Horseman. If nothing else Mongo had the Horseman attitude down pat. You could tell being a Horseman was something special to him. To Roma it was just another angle he was in. I'm not necessarily agreeing or disagreeing, I'm just interested where you're going with this. Please, go on. |
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