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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Oct 12, 2011 14:11:53 GMT -5
How have gone this far without 300 being mentioned? But 300 is entirely propaganda being told by the guy with one eye. Regarding The Patriot, yeah, its historical value was suspect but it was one of the first films to have bouncing cannonballs (though he had WAY greater accuracy with his pistols than would have been reasonable at the time to my understanding)
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Post by Cela on Oct 12, 2011 14:22:42 GMT -5
How have gone this far without 300 being mentioned? But 300 is entirely propaganda being told by the guy with one eye. Regarding The Patriot, yeah, its historical value was suspect but it was one of the first films to have bouncing cannonballs (though he had WAY greater accuracy with his pistols than would have been reasonable at the time to my understanding) It's also based on a comic book. And if we go down that route, then we have to admit that Superman didn't help us win World War 2.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Oct 12, 2011 14:50:17 GMT -5
The Doors has a ton of shit changed in the story. Although, apparently the sets were spot on. Chronology is f***ed with, things didn't happen at all, things that did happen were fictionalized, and so on.
The egregious of this was the way Jim performed Light my Fire. For reals, he just slipped "higher" in, clean as a whistle. In the movie he looks in the camera and screams it. It's awful.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Oct 12, 2011 14:56:06 GMT -5
The word 'based' gets 'em outta any inaccuracies really, i.e. they're not saying " This is exactly what happened, and these events are one hundred percent accurate." They're saying " this story was inspired by true events."
Is it semantics? Yeah. Are studios guilty of confusing the issue and representing their films as complete fact? Totally.
But technically they're not really saying that the film is a total accurate portrayal of events. Hell in a way since whoever's making the flick's own perception is gonna color events, you could never have a completely and totally accurate movie, even if whoever lived the events were filming it.
I've got no issue with filmmakers taking a bit of license to tell a better story, so long as the crux of events is adhered to; I'll concede sometimes that's not the case.
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Post by SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts on Oct 12, 2011 15:03:16 GMT -5
Rudy and The Rookie are probably the least offensive in this case. Although, my family is biased as having an undying hatred for Dan Devine. As for The Rookie, well... can't stage a foul pitch too well, so it had to be a three strike burn down at the end. It's Rudy one of the worst? The Coach is his enemy and greatest obstacle in the movie but in real life was a supporter of Rudy and a good friend. He was approached by the producers to play the villain for the movie to have one but didn't realize they'd go as far as they did.
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Post by mattperiolat on Oct 12, 2011 15:17:17 GMT -5
Rudy and The Rookie are probably the least offensive in this case. Although, my family is biased as having an undying hatred for Dan Devine. As for The Rookie, well... can't stage a foul pitch too well, so it had to be a three strike burn down at the end. It's Rudy one of the worst? The Coach is his enemy and greatest obstacle in the movie but in real life was a supporter of Rudy and a good friend. He was approached by the producers to play the villain for the movie to have one but didn't realize they'd go as far as they did. Well, again, understand our family does not like Devine, so we consider it not just accurate, but gospel.
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Post by The Line on Oct 12, 2011 15:18:13 GMT -5
Rudy and The Rookie are probably the least offensive in this case. Although, my family is biased as having an undying hatred for Dan Devine. As for The Rookie, well... can't stage a foul pitch too well, so it had to be a three strike burn down at the end. It's Rudy one of the worst? The Coach is his enemy and greatest obstacle in the movie but in real life was a supporter of Rudy and a good friend. He was approached by the producers to play the villain for the movie to have one but didn't realize they'd go as far as they did. yeah, go look at the IMDb page for Rudy. A TON of factual errors and anachronisms(hell, probably the most iconic scene in the film, where Rudy's teammates protest so that Rudy can play, never happened. No single player, let alone the majority of the team, gave up their spot for Rudy). It's still a pretty good movie, despite all of them.
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Post by Zombie Mod on Oct 12, 2011 15:37:47 GMT -5
5th element... theres no corban dallas.... it was me!
seriously though, factual movies do this all the time, mainly because they have to put a bit of drama/interesting bits to the story otherwise it doesnt get anywhere near the top ten.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2011 15:39:33 GMT -5
But 300 is entirely propaganda being told by the guy with one eye. Regarding The Patriot, yeah, its historical value was suspect but it was one of the first films to have bouncing cannonballs (though he had WAY greater accuracy with his pistols than would have been reasonable at the time to my understanding) It's also based on a comic book. And if we go down that route, then we have to admit that Superman didn't help us win World War 2. Though Hitler was totally killed by the Human Torch. Look it up.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Oct 12, 2011 15:47:46 GMT -5
As someone else said, U-571. I actually like the film but it is annoying that they kind of forgot that it wasn't the Americans who captured the Enigma cipher. That and the fact that U-571 had nothing to do with the Enigma cipher.
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Post by wcw on Oct 12, 2011 15:55:40 GMT -5
Saw Moneyball last weekend and I have did notice a few historical inaccuracies.
1- Jeremy Giambi was already on the A's team in 2001 and wasn't as presented in the movie acquired in 2002 2- Peter Brand (AKA Paul DePodesta) was with the A's since 1999 and wasn't bought from the Indians in 2002 3- Art Howe was presented as some sort of rebel that went against Beane at every stage and was some sort of traditionalist that got in Beane's way. Howe was actually just an extension of Beane on the field and carried out his tactics perfectly. Also Howe handled the pitching staff of that team very well. 4- Not an inaccuracy but more so an oversight Miguel Tejada won an MVP that season and Barry Zito won a Cy Young two big reasons why they had success were just overlooked.
So yeah every movie does it.
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Post by Glitch on Oct 12, 2011 16:02:15 GMT -5
dragon: the bruce lee Story. extremely inaccurate and portrays Bruce Lee as much weaker, in what I assume was the hack director's attempt to make him more human.
-He wasn't a little kid when he learned wing chun. He was made to by his parents when he was a teenager because he got his ass kicked by local thugs. -He didn't break his back by an opponent's kick, it was weight lifting. -That same opponent didn't challenge him to a rematch. The event he attended was actually where he demonstrated such things as the three inch punch.(and he wasn't booed) The director basically took out an amazing thing just to put a completely fictional drama.
Jason Scott Lee isn't a bad actor but I thought he made Bruce looked too much like an overly emotional man.(in pretty much every scene he's in) Contrary to how he was interviews.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Oct 12, 2011 16:10:02 GMT -5
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre!
The narrator said it was true...
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Post by Legion on Oct 12, 2011 16:21:46 GMT -5
Really, this far in and no mention of Pearl bloody Harbour?
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Oct 12, 2011 16:32:05 GMT -5
Really, this far in and no mention of Pearl bloody Harbour? Pearl Bloody Harbor sounds like some sorta bad sci-fi original. Like there are monsters in the water or something.
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Post by Legion on Oct 12, 2011 16:41:14 GMT -5
I think Ben Aflek was in the water at some point, so that's like having a monster in the water
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