Crazy RKO's make me cringe

[mcstoklasa]

First off I want to say that in my opinion, since Orton moved to Smackdown he has been rejuvenated. Sure not all of you may like him, but he pulls off the crazy, badass face character pretty well in my opinion. The less he speaks and the more he kicks ass the more he is getting over with the crowd, Goldberg style. Also every Orton/Christian match was better than HHH/Taker at WM.

One of the reasons he is so over is because his finisher is so awesome. Not only is it impactful and comes out of nowhere, but he seemingly will perform it anywhere.

The fans really believe he is crazy because he will do the RKO on the thin little mats outside the ring, on the announcers table, on the hood of car (Hogan 05), and now even off the tob turnbuckle (that top rope RKO on Christian was astounding!).

I know this is one of the reasons he is so over, however part of me can barely stand to watch Orton deliver this move in all of these dangerous positions because I really think he is going to deal with the consequences more than any other wrestler performing their own finishers. Lets get one thing straight, in reality the person delivering the RKO takes far more damage than the 'victim'. Now when this is performed on the floor or on tables, Orton is going to seriously, seriously injure himself.

Not many wrestlers have a finisher where they take a bump themselves. I recall a recent interview with Hogan where he said he wished he could go back in time and change the legdrop to something else like the sleeper so he wouldn't be taking a bump every single time he did his finisher. Because nowadays his hips and lower back are ruined because of the legdrop.

Even doing the RKO in the ring it means Orton will be taking more bumps and receiving more damage than other people.


Does anyone else cringe mightily when Orton performs these crazy RKO's? I guess he knows the risks, but goddamn.

[Dave at the Movies]

Orton better hope they don't bring up Dean Ambrose(Jon Moxley) to the main roster anytime soon with the current crazy guy gimmick he has in FCW. He'll make Orton look like a ridiculous dope for trying to play the crazy guy. Just my opinion.


BTW this is coming from someone who had never seen Moxley before FCW. The guy has won me over in just two matches. He plays his gimmick way over the top but I love it.



Speaking of your main topic about the RKO I don't cringe because as far as I know I don't think Orton has hurt anyone yet with it. As long as he keeps his arms loose around their head it should be okay.

[mcstoklasa]

Aug 31, 2011 10:48:00 GMT -5 Dave at the Movies said:

Orton better hope they don't bring up Dean Ambrose(Jon Moxley) to the main roster anytime soon with the current crazy guy gimmick he has in FCW. He'll make Orton look like a ridiculous dope for trying to play the crazy guy. Just my opinion.


BTW this is coming from someone who had never seen Moxley before FCW. The guy has won me over in just two matches. He plays his gimmick way over the top but I love it.



Speaking of your main topic about the RKO I don't cringe because as far as I know I don't think Orton has hurt anyone yet with it. As long as he keeps his arms loose around their head it should be okay.

I'm afraid I havent seen Moxley. Is there anything of his on youtube?

I am more thinking Orton will injure himself.

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Aug 31, 2011 10:46:21 GMT -5 mcstoklasa said:

Not many wrestlers have a finisher where they take a bump themselves. I recall a recent interview with Hogan where he said he wished he could go back in time and change the legdrop to something else like the sleeper so he wouldn't be taking a bump every single time he did his finisher. Because nowadays his hips and lower back are ruined because of the legdrop.

I have nothing to add to the topic other than Hogan Hulking up and then applying a sleeper would be hilarious.

[Dave at the Movies]

Aug 31, 2011 10:52:05 GMT -5 mcstoklasa said:

Aug 31, 2011 10:48:00 GMT -5 Dave at the Movies said:

Orton better hope they don't bring up Dean Ambrose(Jon Moxley) to the main roster anytime soon with the current crazy guy gimmick he has in FCW. He'll make Orton look like a ridiculous dope for trying to play the crazy guy. Just my opinion.


BTW this is coming from someone who had never seen Moxley before FCW. The guy has won me over in just two matches. He plays his gimmick way over the top but I love it.



Speaking of your main topic about the RKO I don't cringe because as far as I know I don't think Orton has hurt anyone yet with it. As long as he keeps his arms loose around their head it should be okay.

I'm afraid I havent seen Moxley. Is there anything of his on youtube?

I am more thinking Orton will injure himself.

Yeah I think you will find some of his matches if you search for Dean Ambrose on youtube. Youtube is the only way I ever watch FCW. Sometimes the most recent ones aren't up but they usually are for the most part.

[Wolf Hurricane]

Aug 31, 2011 10:46:21 GMT -5 mcstoklasa said:

I recall a recent interview with Hogan where he said he wished he could go back in time and change the legdrop to something else like the sleeper so he wouldn't be taking a bump every single time he did his finisher. Because nowadays his hips and lower back are ruined because of the legdrop.

Should have did the Axe Bomber.

[sdoyle7798]

If he threw it similar (not exactly like) Hanson, then OK. But he just stuck his arm out.

I know, if we are to believe his leg drop killed people dead, then we should believe his clothesline should as well. But to me, the leg drop looks more impactful than the Ax Bomber.

Having said that, I bet in the heyday of Hulkamania, he could have flicked people with his finger for a finisher and people would have bought into it (me included, I was a little Hulkamaniac back in the day).

[cool guy]

Aug 31, 2011 10:48:00 GMT -5 Dave at the Movies said:

Orton better hope they don't bring up Dean Ambrose(Jon Moxley) to the main roster anytime soon with the current crazy guy gimmick he has in FCW. He'll make Orton look like a ridiculous dope for trying to play the crazy guy. Just my opinion.


BTW this is coming from someone who had never seen Moxley before FCW. The guy has won me over in just two matches. He plays his gimmick way over the top but I love it.

Come to think of it, Orton and Moxley in a "psycho vs psycho" feud sounds like a license to print money.

[rapidfire187]

Aug 31, 2011 10:48:00 GMT -5 Dave at the Movies said:

Orton better hope they don't bring up Dean Ambrose(Jon Moxley) to the main roster anytime soon with the current crazy guy gimmick he has in FCW. He'll make Orton look like a ridiculous dope for trying to play the crazy guy. Just my opinion.


BTW this is coming from someone who had never seen Moxley before FCW. The guy has won me over in just two matches. He plays his gimmick way over the top but I love it.



Speaking of your main topic about the RKO I don't cringe because as far as I know I don't think Orton has hurt anyone yet with it. As long as he keeps his arms loose around their head it should be okay.

Meh IDK, I think Moxley looks like a dope playing that role. I know I'm probably the only person that thinks that but I'm not much of a fan after seeing his FCW stuff. .

I don't worry about the RKO's either though. It's a pretty safe move. The only one that looked like it may have hurt someone is the one he did on Dolph Monday night, and apparently Ziggler's having his neck seen about today.

[Dave at the Movies]

Aug 31, 2011 13:56:16 GMT -5 cool guy said:

Aug 31, 2011 10:48:00 GMT -5 Dave at the Movies said:

Orton better hope they don't bring up Dean Ambrose(Jon Moxley) to the main roster anytime soon with the current crazy guy gimmick he has in FCW. He'll make Orton look like a ridiculous dope for trying to play the crazy guy. Just my opinion.


BTW this is coming from someone who had never seen Moxley before FCW. The guy has won me over in just two matches. He plays his gimmick way over the top but I love it.

Come to think of it, Orton and Moxley in a "psycho vs psycho" feud sounds like a license to print money.

I think it would be interesting and get over but I've never really bought Orton as a psycho.

Early on in the Viper gimmick as a heel I liked it but now it just seems very forced especially when he sticks his tongue out and looks like one of the Bushwackers. < get it? ;D



Ambrose's gimmick is very over the top and I wasn't sure if I liked it or not but the more I think about it the more I like it.

I really think it mostly depends on the storyline and the mic skills.


Orton's mic skills are absolutely awful. Whenever he opens up his mouth I forget all about him suppose to being a psycho.


If it were up to me I would tweak Orton a little bit and take him more into a an American Psycho gimmick so that it would make sense for why he speaks so calmly and so monotone.



Whenever Orton does those twitches in the ring I kind of like it but I think he over does them sometimes like you can tell they don't look natural.

[rapidfire187]

I don't like Orton as a psycho. It just doesn't work for me. There's nothing psycho about him. He's just a generic guy with tattoos that kicks people in the head when he gets mad sometimes. I've seen people do far far more dastardly things on WWE television.

I preferred Orton as the Legend Killer. Not necessarily the gimmick (though it was a good gimmick) but the absolute dork that he was during that time. I just hated the guy so much because he reminded me of the asshole jocks in high school.

[bathory]

Moxley is an indy-trained guy. Obviously his way of going psycho would go way beyond the WWE safe style of beeing a psycho. Just pointing that out, it's not really fair to compare a guy who makes his own promos with WWE guys who have like 5 guys writing scripts for the whole roster.

[Burst]

Aug 31, 2011 14:00:28 GMT -5 Dave at the Movies said:

Whenever Orton does those twitches in the ring I kind of like it but I think he over does them sometimes like you can tell they don't look natural.

Somebody got a gif of when he was tombstoned that one time?

[D2: Sweet & Sour Edition]

To add to the Moxley discussion portion, they could give him the gimmick of being the bastard son of Terry Funk, and it would be believable. THAT'S how crazy he is.

[Kevin Hamilton]

The 'crazy' act he does is just so goofy looking all it does is make me laugh. If that's the response they're going for, they succeed.

[derrtaysouth95]

The RKO seems pretty safe to me as long as he doesn't hold on too tight and the person taking it lands like they should.....granted that goes for every move pretty much.

As for finishers that will in the long run injure the person giving it (not kayfabe injuries)? Austin....HHH....Taker.....Kane....the list goes on and on. It's going to catch up to them eventually.

[Cactus Jack]

It's a back bump, it's not as if he's not taking back bumps in every match anyway...

[Futureraven: Beelzebruv]

Aug 31, 2011 13:51:20 GMT -5 sdoyle7798 said:

Having said that, I bet in the heyday of Hulkamania, he could have flicked people with his finger for a finisher and people would have bought into it (me included, I was a little Hulkamaniac back in the day).

It worked on Nash!

[mrjl]

Aug 31, 2011 10:55:48 GMT -5 @akeem said:

Aug 31, 2011 10:46:21 GMT -5 mcstoklasa said:

Not many wrestlers have a finisher where they take a bump themselves. I recall a recent interview with Hogan where he said he wished he could go back in time and change the legdrop to something else like the sleeper so he wouldn't be taking a bump every single time he did his finisher. Because nowadays his hips and lower back are ruined because of the legdrop.

I have nothing to add to the topic other than Hogan Hulking up and then applying a sleeper would be hilarious.

shoulda been the AX BOMBAAA!

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Aug 31, 2011 13:51:20 GMT -5 sdoyle7798 said:

If he threw it similar (not exactly like) Hanson, then OK. But he just stuck his arm out.

I know, if we are to believe his leg drop killed people dead, then we should believe his clothesline should as well. But to me, the leg drop looks more impactful than the Ax Bomber.

Having said that, I bet in the heyday of Hulkamania, he could have flicked people with his finger for a finisher and people would have bought into it (me included, I was a little Hulkamaniac back in the day).

Hey, ask Nash how devastating that finger is.