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Post by Mac on Dec 1, 2011 0:17:11 GMT -5
Fallout 3 has a few small things that outdid NV
1. Better music. GNR music and Three Dog taglining your quest was beautiful. Listening to Mr New Vegas pveretdly say he loved you while playing Johnny Guitar got boring quick.
2. I felt like more of a loner in 3. I got a place in Megaton, got my dog and that was it. in New Vegas I always felt tempted to have a partner.
3. Too easy to piss off factions and make them hostile to you in NV. And occasionally you had to do something just to survive.
4. The ending to NV was anticlimatic and terrible. The closing credits were great though
5. The DLC ***SUCKED*** in NV, and was a great addition in 3.
6. And as mentioned by a previous poster you basically got shoved out the door into a world your character has never experienced before. And in NV you've been living in that world all along, so while you nothing about the world your character has been living in it all along, you dont grow together. 3 made it feel like it was YOU being put into a world where you dont know what to expect
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Post by "The Bantam" Rob Boss on Dec 1, 2011 0:38:01 GMT -5
Main reason why F:NV isn't as good as F3: No Mesmetron.
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Post by 'Foretold' Joker on Dec 1, 2011 7:00:44 GMT -5
New Vegas is imo the true sequel to Fallout 2... I mean 3 took place on the other side of the continent with hardly any recurring characters for crying out loud. Is that a good or bad thing? I mean most Xbox 360 Fallout 3 players would never have played Fallout 1 or 2 so recurring characters would have meant nothing to them. I for one don't know anything about Fallout 1 or 2's story so any reference in New Vegas that may have been mentioned when I was playing skipped me by. A few other smaller issues besides it being an add on that may have bugged me about New Vegas. - I found that the villains were laughable, fancy-raiders in roman fancy dress do not intimidate me. - The fact you can follow Benny to Vegas and then just shoot him dead ending that chapter is incredibly poor story telling. - The security robots outside sophisticated Vegas were laughable and weak (normal difficulty), especially as when I first turned up and shot them they all died rather quickly, yet House still wanted to chat?? - It has a very forced linear path of walk around in an anticlockwise circle to get to vegas. Despite logic telling me Benny is a douche in a fancy coat so he's probably gone to Vegas and even if he hasn't someone there is bound to know where he is, yet I can't go there directly as large overpowered dragonflies will kill me. But these are mere little things adding to my disappointment with F:NV.
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Post by The Ichi on Dec 1, 2011 10:19:10 GMT -5
I thought the Legion were pretty damn scary myself, though it's mostly in the way they're introduced. It got a legit "holy crap, THAT'S what I'm up against?" reaction from me.
And I think it is possible to reach Vegas the short way, it just takes a lot of skill/luck.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Dec 1, 2011 10:33:21 GMT -5
I thought the Legion were pretty damn scary myself, though it's mostly in the way they're introduced. It got a legit "holy crap, THAT'S what I'm up against?" reaction from me. And I think it is possible to reach Vegas the short way, it just takes a lot of skill/luck. You just have to stick towards the Black Mountain area, and hope a deathclaw doesn't see you. I would always make my way there that way with a starting intelligence of 9 and get the intelligence implant before I hit the next level. At least, before the level cap was raised and getting everything to 100 was as easy as radioactive cake. If I go point by point, Fallout 3 probably edges out New Vegas. With that said, I'd still give the edge to New Vegas. There is just something about it that rocks.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Dec 1, 2011 11:47:03 GMT -5
Note: the guys who marched into a town and burned and crucified everyone are the villains. Those guys, with the slaves. Yeah, some of Caesar's philosophy was interesting and he had a few good points, but there is no way they aren't the villains.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Dec 1, 2011 12:09:37 GMT -5
Note: the guys who marched into a town and burned and crucified everyone are the villains. Those guys, with the slaves. Yeah, some of Caesar's philosophy was interesting and he had a few good points, but there is no way they aren't the villains. there's one moment I wish they would've left in that got cut out. originally if you took Arcade Gannon with you when you spoke to Caesar, after Caesar was done talking there was supposed to be dialogue where Arcade would've deconstructed every single point Caesar made and rightly pointed out what a loon he was. but they decided that you had to leave your companions when you talk to him, so it never happened. ah the road not travelled.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Dec 1, 2011 12:17:33 GMT -5
While they have flaws, the NCR isn't marching into towns and slaughtering the population wholesale to make a point.
I tend not to follow the NCR quest line, but isn't everyone you take out for them a military threat?
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Dec 1, 2011 13:18:59 GMT -5
She was a huge bitch, and I enjoyed playing NCR up till I had to deal with her. Usually I end up going my own way. The missions are by far the least interesting as well - kill the Khans, kill the Brotherhood, etc.
I think the Brotherhood actually isn't all that interested in peace, unless you replace the elder. If I remember correctly he is willing to deal with the NCR.
Still, as a whole, if we're going off just a moral choice between NCR and Legion, there isn't even a contest. It's pretty much as black and white as Axis vs Allies.
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