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Post by Stu on Feb 25, 2006 4:14:28 GMT -5
Two guys who were looked at as young upstart heels who had a ton of potential and were liked by fans. But then they turned face, pandered to the (younger) fans and were shoved down our throats by promoters. There's no doubt both guys are talented, but both have fallen into overrated territory. Personally, I have to admit that as much as I'm bored with Styles, at least he tries to let his actions speak for him. Thoughts?
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Post by wweneedsbibleman on Feb 25, 2006 4:17:33 GMT -5
Gee, I wonder who's going to win this one.
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Phoenix
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
He's back and better than ever!
Fear The Desecrator
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Post by Phoenix on Feb 25, 2006 6:00:41 GMT -5
I mark for both of them so its a draw for me
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Post by Topher is Human on Feb 25, 2006 6:06:38 GMT -5
to be blunt, I hate them both BUT atleast AJ looks like he can do more than 7 moves...
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messiah
Don Corleone
Wobbly.
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Post by messiah on Feb 25, 2006 6:29:39 GMT -5
I think heel turn at some point down the line will do wonders for AJ.
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Post by DMR: MadisonRayneMania Fan on Feb 25, 2006 7:02:11 GMT -5
I am voting for John Cena........because AJ Styles is overrated and has no place in the X-Championship feud.....
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Post by Topher is Human on Feb 25, 2006 7:04:01 GMT -5
I am voting for John Cena........because AJ Styles is overrated and has no place in the X-Championship feud..... and cena deserves to be invovled in any WWE title fued?
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Post by Baixo Astral on Feb 25, 2006 8:02:51 GMT -5
Let's see... why not post another ridiculous poll to put over Cena hatin'?
I heard Cena killed a puppy with several weak punches... do you agree with that?
Whose chain wrestling abilities are better... Bryan Danielson or John Cena?
John Cena has a low body fat ratio... do you think the fact that he contributes to the American Nazi Party makes him a truly evil man?
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Post by Palatial Regalia on Feb 25, 2006 8:03:02 GMT -5
i really really very much so try to not like styles, but dammit he impresses me. he sucks bad on the mic though.
cena is actually good mic worker (only reason i dont like him is his vanilla ice gimmick), but boring in the ring.
merge them both into a single being, we'd have a complete package of a main event wrestler, or next BIG thing
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Post by Ishmeal Loves Kaseyhausen on Feb 25, 2006 8:33:03 GMT -5
Styles definately doesn't deserve to be in the X division feud. He should be in a world title spot. AJ vs. Christian, or Monty vs. Christian hmmm.....
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Post by shastamcnasty on Feb 25, 2006 12:51:17 GMT -5
... This poll reminds me of picking a winner between the Yankees or Devil Rays... Almost everyone will pick the Yankees but some won't just out of either loyalty towards the D-Rays or a sheer vendetta against the Yankees... Or they just really liked Busch Gardens, who the hell knows?
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Post by HMARK Center on Feb 25, 2006 13:02:50 GMT -5
Actually, just because you're pushed really hard doesn't make you "overrated".
AJ, for all the knocks against him, delivers the goods. Plus, back in the days when Dusty was booking, AJ, along with Daniels, basically carried the TNA workload on their backs, consistently being involved in PPV match of the nights', and giving people a reason to tune in.
I basically feel that the only real hold in Styles' game right now is that his long-term selling (i.e. selling a body part that got worked on early in the match towards the end of it) is a bit shoddy, but he's solid in most other aspects of the game. Yes, even his promos; FAR from the best, but the guy gets the job done.
I do wish they'd give him a nice, long, non-title feud, though, in TNA. It'd do wonders for him.
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therob
Hank Scorpio
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Post by therob on Feb 25, 2006 13:09:05 GMT -5
I used to really like A.J. but latley I have been resenting him. Its really because his charecter is the same as it ever has been and he's getting stale. but he is a great wrestler who deserves all the credit in the world I just wish they would do something else with him. maybe make him heel.
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Ben Wyatt
Crow T. Robot
Are You Gonna Go My Way?
I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Feb 25, 2006 13:12:15 GMT -5
Let's see... why not post another ridiculous poll to put over Cena hatin'? I heard Cena killed a puppy with several weak punches... do you agree with that? Whose chain wrestling abilities are better... Bryan Danielson or John Cena? John Cena has a low body fat ratio... do you think the fact that he contributes to the American Nazi Party makes him a truly evil man? Seriously, I thought the same thing when I read the title. New poll ideas........ Which is better John Cena, or you winning 100 milion dollars? If Cena shot your grandmother, whould you cheer for him or hope he gets arrested?
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Post by viscera on Feb 25, 2006 13:29:04 GMT -5
Coming soon...
Would you rather pour acid or liquid nitrogen on John Cena?
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Post by dahmer33 on Feb 25, 2006 13:46:46 GMT -5
the golden spike is a lying. That is bullsh** that you heard John Cena killed a puppy with several weak punches. But that sort of comment makes me say to myself," I bet you'd kill one." Besides you know John Cena is talented and skilled in the ring, he knows what he is doing and isn't a guy who's untalented. I believe he is going to defeat HHH and remain WWE champion. Cena's wrestliing abilities are better than Danielson's (or anyone else's)since he cares about, respects his opponents and what he does in the ring. As for his opponents? You know...they like and they respect him. Cena doesn 't contribute to the American Nazi Party but I bet you do. Cena is the best WWE superstar in the entire federation and deserves to have the title, he deserves to win at WM 22 and keep the WWE title. Unlike HHH who doesn't and isn't going to gain it from John Cena. protoroc-fallen legionaire Where you are mistaken is in assuming John Cena is untalented on the mic. No, he doesn't have a Vanilla Ice gimmick although you are lying and making up things saying that he does. He isn't doing that so...time to realize it and get your mind straightened out. He is exciting in the ring with good, awesome action. the slickness Actually, John Cena's better than winning $900 million dollars. John Cena wouldn't shoot anyone's grandmother and to say he would is a lie and disrespectful. Tell you what he would do...he would help or protect someone or someone's grandmother. Not do what you said. John is caring and kind. Which is cool. John is cool for being the sort of guy that people respect. Because he deserves it.
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Post by viscera on Feb 25, 2006 13:51:53 GMT -5
the golden spike is a lying. That is bullS*** that you heard John Cena killed a puppy with several weak punches. But that sort of comment makes me say to myself," I bet you'd kill one." Besides you know John Cena is talented and skilled in the ring, he knows what he is doing and isn't a guy who's untalented. I believe he is going to defeat HHH and remain WWE champion. Cena's wrestliing abilities are better than Danielson's (or anyone else's)since he cares about, respects his opponents and what he does in the ring. As for his opponents? You know...they like and they respect him. Cena doesn 't contribute to the American Nazi Party but I bet you do. Cena is the best WWE superstar in the entire federation and deserves to have the title, he deserves to win at WM 22 and keep the WWE title. Unlike HHH who doesn't and isn't going to gain it from John Cena. protoroc-fallen legionaire Where you are mistaken is in assuming John Cena is untalented on the mic. No, he doesn't have a Vanilla Ice gimmick although you are lying and making up things saying that he does. He isn't doing that so...time to realize it and get your mind straightened out. He is exciting in the ring with good, awesome action. the slickness Actually, John Cena's better than winning $900 million dollars. John Cena wouldn't shoot anyone's grandmother and to say he would is a lie and disrespectful. Tell you what he would do...he would help or protect someone or someone's grandmother. Not do what you said. John is caring and kind. Which is cool. John is cool for being the sort of guy that people respect. Because he deserves it. Well hey warriorthug4cena! Haven't seen you in ages... how's your family? Still trolling message boards spouting pro cena nonsense?
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Post by shastamcnasty on Feb 25, 2006 13:59:48 GMT -5
the golden spike is a lying. That is bullS*** that you heard John Cena killed a puppy with several weak punches. But that sort of comment makes me say to myself," I bet you'd kill one." Besides you know John Cena is talented and skilled in the ring, he knows what he is doing and isn't a guy who's untalented. I believe he is going to defeat HHH and remain WWE champion. Cena's wrestliing abilities are better than Danielson's (or anyone else's)since he cares about, respects his opponents and what he does in the ring. As for his opponents? You know...they like and they respect him. Cena doesn 't contribute to the American Nazi Party but I bet you do. Cena is the best WWE superstar in the entire federation and deserves to have the title, he deserves to win at WM 22 and keep the WWE title. Unlike HHH who doesn't and isn't going to gain it from John Cena. protoroc-fallen legionaire Where you are mistaken is in assuming John Cena is untalented on the mic. No, he doesn't have a Vanilla Ice gimmick although you are lying and making up things saying that he does. He isn't doing that so...time to realize it and get your mind straightened out. He is exciting in the ring with good, awesome action. the slickness Actually, John Cena's better than winning $900 million dollars. John Cena wouldn't shoot anyone's grandmother and to say he would is a lie and disrespectful. Tell you what he would do...he would help or protect someone or someone's grandmother. Not do what you said. John is caring and kind. Which is cool. John is cool for being the sort of guy that people respect. Because he deserves it. Yeah, rest of the board, what are you thinking insulting the immortal John Cena!!! Dahmer's right, you are all poopyheads and my dad could beat up your dads for the chaingang!!! Dahmer, if you're going to insult people (or at least make a half-assed effort), don't make yourself sound like a 7 year old arguing over who has dibbs to the superball at recess!!! ... And if you're going to defend someone, at least provide evidence to your comments... Now I'm off to tell my mommy on you dahmer!!!
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Post by Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone on Feb 25, 2006 14:28:33 GMT -5
It depends on what we are voting on here.
If we are voting for personality and charisma, Cena is better than AJ.
If we are talking about wrestling depth and ability, AJ is better than Cena.
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Post by invaderdave on Feb 25, 2006 14:36:05 GMT -5
Remember when someone started a poll about Cena vs. Jerry Lynn? Just pointing that out.
Lenny's right, in terms of charisma, Cena's got it, but in terms of ability, AJ runs laps with it.
However, were these two to have a match, I'd certainly be interested.
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