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Post by norsisclouds on May 7, 2012 15:31:30 GMT -5
This is really old news. He's said this before years ago, but the legend of bitter Hardy lives on because people like to make fun of him. Well, that and his crazy videos. Those didn't help matters. Most people don't know that he'd forgiven Lita mere weeks after everything came out, and gave an interview in '07 saying he'd gotten to a better place with Edge. There were even photos of them singing karaoke together. To top it off, he'd been photographed with his brother Jeff attending one of her Silverscream Spookshows years ago, smiling and happy. They probably don't talk at all now, given her latest comments on him were anything but flattering, but they made up over those issues a long time ago. Lita's even still friends with Jeff, his wife, and Shane. Honestly Lita and edge were probably boning for a while with the speed that they got together after the break up. Just like Matt and his post-breakup sex toy Lori. Who he conveniently forgets to mention he was seeing when Lita's neck was broken. The whole thing was a mess...as Lita always said, "If people knew the whole story they wouldn't have those signs." He wasn't as innocent as he made himself out to be then either. Y'know, one thing I've always found funny about Edge's book - great read, for the record - is that if you're aware of the Lita thing in hindsight, any time he talks about her in it it's pretty obvious. Even Jeff said it was pretty obvious looking back. He said he thought Edge and Lita looked like a better couple than Lita and his own brother because they had way more in common and always had this flirtatious, intimate relationship among their friends. Looking back, it's pretty funny that JEFF of all people, drugged out of his mind noticed, and not Matt. ETA- Ironically, the funny thing about this is people keep asking Matt about it even 7 years later because he was the one who brought it all out in the first place and is the only one who continues to talk about it, while Edge and Lita have remained quiet. The videos on CM Punk and Lita don't help matters either, because even if his beef with Punk is legitimate it just makes people think he's a scorned ex-boyfriend who will never be able to move on.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on May 7, 2012 16:44:19 GMT -5
I think that's the most rational thing I've heard him say in at least five years. Good for him for that.
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Post by Brother Nero....Wolfe on May 7, 2012 16:48:02 GMT -5
Why is this news? They all buried the hatchet years ago. Although Matt does still seem to takes digs at them, usually at Amy, whenever he gets the chance, but that's another story altogether. Probably because of the digs. People see him making fun of them a bit in a somewhat friendly way and, not knowing they reconciled, assume it's not so friendly. Plus I imagine there must be people who know they buried the hatched but still think that Matt isn't over it, which is further reinforced by his ongoing struggles with his not-so-personal demons, like the fake suicide note and etc.
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Post by nWoElite on May 7, 2012 16:53:39 GMT -5
I've never heard that. The story I've always heard was that Matt and Lita were living together and Matt found out because he saw a text message on her phone in the middle of the night. Not sure why she would have been at his house, at night, while he was injured, unless they were still together. Besides, I kind of think the reason Matt went through such a dark phase is indirectly a result of the Lita/Edge affair. A girl cheated on me like 6 years ago and it still screws with me after all these years. That's on him - you would figure you would seek out ways to get over it in 6 years. Fact is, he held onto the past too long, and held onto that negativity. Sure, it isn't a cool thing to have happen to you - but there are MUCH worse things than getting cheated on. In no way should that ruin your life. Do keep in mind that this woman was basically his all. He put a lot of faith and trust into that relationship and it was borderline unhealthy. Plus it affected his wrestling career and employment at WWE, another place he loved and wanted to be. You honestly tell me you wouldn't be affected under those circumstances?
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on May 7, 2012 16:59:07 GMT -5
Why is this news? They all buried the hatchet years ago. Although Matt does still seem to takes digs at them, usually at Amy, whenever he gets the chance, but that's another story altogether. personally I think Matt goes back to the "Lita WAAAAH" well all the time because he's still bitter that the angle didn't make him a main eventer. that's how it comes off to me anyway.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on May 7, 2012 17:10:22 GMT -5
Fact is it's high time for him to get over it and it looks like he's done it. Good on him.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2012 17:46:45 GMT -5
but wasn"t it revealed that matt/lita were already broken up Brocode Dating the ex-girlfriend days after you broke up,whitout even warning,talking with the friend,or making sure he is okay,can hurt the friendship. The brocode goes out the window when you have a good chance at nailing Lita. It's brocode rule 1a
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Post by usemeplease on May 7, 2012 18:07:22 GMT -5
Do keep in mind that this woman was basically his all. He put a lot of faith and trust into that relationship and it was borderline unhealthy. Plus it affected his wrestling career and employment at WWE, another place he loved and wanted to be. You honestly tell me you wouldn't be affected under those circumstances? If you read Matt and Jeff book, Matt started dating Lita while she was with another guy. If Lita was is all, why did Matt fill the need to cheat on her with another woman? About Matt's career being affected, Matt wanted to go to RAW to join Lita instead of staying on Smackdown, where his career had a better chance to flourish. About his employment with the WWE, Matt was already known to cause problems for himself, Lita, and Jeff backstage. Outside the whole affair becoming public, Matt tried to get himself fired before 2010. The only reason Matt lashed out after finding out about the affair is because of his over inflated ego.
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Post by norsisclouds on May 7, 2012 18:18:31 GMT -5
Do keep in mind that this woman was basically his all. He put a lot of faith and trust into that relationship and it was borderline unhealthy. Plus it affected his wrestling career and employment at WWE, another place he loved and wanted to be. You honestly tell me you wouldn't be affected under those circumstances? If you read Matt and Jeff book, Matt started dating Lita while she was with another guy. If Lita was is all, why did Matt fill the need to cheat on her with another woman? About Matt's career being affected, Matt wanted to go to RAW to join Lita instead of staying on Smackdown, where his career had a better chance to flourish. About his employment with the WWE, Matt was already known to cause problems for himself, Lita, and Jeff backstage. Outside the whole affair becoming public, Matt tried to get himself fired before 2010. The only reason Matt lashed out after finding out about the affair is because of his over inflated ego.I wonder if he knows Lita said this about him on Edge's DVD... ...but in any case, Matt's career had other problems aside from the affair. I think we've all talked about it to death, like the Survivor Series incident in 05, fighting with Finlay, his fights with Laurinitis that caused him to job to Zack Gowen and lose a storyline to A-Train in the first place, trying to get himself fired when he found out Edge won the WWE title in 06...and he was already getting buried on Smackdown BEFORE he made the switch to RAW to be with his girlfriend. Then they buried him further when Lita didn't want to play ball with storylines. Really, I think dating anyone on the roster is bad for your career, no matter who you are--unless it's Stephanie and you're Triple H--but he did himself no favors by picking fights with the wrong people and running his mouth when he should have kept it shut, and I'm not just talking about the affair incident, there were numerous stories about him being a general difficult to work with, problematic guy backstage.
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Post by usemeplease on May 7, 2012 18:54:09 GMT -5
I wonder if he knows Lita said this about him on Edge's DVD... ...but in any case, Matt's career had other problems aside from the affair. I think we've all talked about it to death, like the Survivor Series incident in 05, fighting with Finlay, his fights with Laurinitis that caused him to job to Zack Gowen and lose a storyline to A-Train in the first place, trying to get himself fired when he found out Edge won the WWE title in 06...and he was already getting buried on Smackdown BEFORE he made the switch to RAW to be with his girlfriend. Then they buried him further when Lita didn't want to play ball with storylines. Really, I think dating anyone on the roster is bad for your career, no matter who you are--unless it's Stephanie and you're Triple H--but he did himself no favors by picking fights with the wrong people and running his mouth when he should have kept it shut, and I'm not just talking about the affair incident, there were numerous stories about him being a general difficult to work with, problematic guy backstage. There are very few expections to that rule, Tommy Dreamer & his wife, Miz & Maryse. But I can agree, Matt's attutide and ego help kill his WWE and TNA careers. BTW: If there is no bad blood between Matt and Edge, why did Matt throw shade on Edge's way when it was announce that Edge was going to the HOF?
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Post by That Mickie Fan on May 7, 2012 18:56:39 GMT -5
If you read Matt and Jeff book, Matt started dating Lita while she was with another guy. If Lita was is all, why did Matt fill the need to cheat on her with another woman? About Matt's career being affected, Matt wanted to go to RAW to join Lita instead of staying on Smackdown, where his career had a better chance to flourish. About his employment with the WWE, Matt was already known to cause problems for himself, Lita, and Jeff backstage. Outside the whole affair becoming public, Matt tried to get himself fired before 2010. The only reason Matt lashed out after finding out about the affair is because of his over inflated ego.I wonder if he knows Lita said this about him on Edge's DVD... ...but in any case, Matt's career had other problems aside from the affair. I think we've all talked about it to death, like the Survivor Series incident in 05, fighting with Finlay, his fights with Laurinitis that caused him to job to Zack Gowen and lose a storyline to A-Train in the first place, trying to get himself fired when he found out Edge won the WWE title in 06...and he was already getting buried on Smackdown BEFORE he made the switch to RAW to be with his girlfriend. Then they buried him further when Lita didn't want to play ball with storylines. Really, I think dating anyone on the roster is bad for your career, no matter who you are--unless it's Stephanie and you're Triple H--but he did himself no favors by picking fights with the wrong people and running his mouth when he should have kept it shut, and I'm not just talking about the affair incident, there were numerous stories about him being a general difficult to work with, problematic guy backstage. What happened at Survivor Series 05?
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Post by Mayonnaise on May 7, 2012 19:08:06 GMT -5
I wonder if he knows Lita said this about him on Edge's DVD... ...but in any case, Matt's career had other problems aside from the affair. I think we've all talked about it to death, like the Survivor Series incident in 05, fighting with Finlay, his fights with Laurinitis that caused him to job to Zack Gowen and lose a storyline to A-Train in the first place, trying to get himself fired when he found out Edge won the WWE title in 06...and he was already getting buried on Smackdown BEFORE he made the switch to RAW to be with his girlfriend. Then they buried him further when Lita didn't want to play ball with storylines. Really, I think dating anyone on the roster is bad for your career, no matter who you are--unless it's Stephanie and you're Triple H--but he did himself no favors by picking fights with the wrong people and running his mouth when he should have kept it shut, and I'm not just talking about the affair incident, there were numerous stories about him being a general difficult to work with, problematic guy backstage. What happened at Survivor Series 05? Smackdown v. RAW match that Orton won for SD. Undertaker made his return and the SD guys that were celebrating with Orton were to take Chokeslams while Orton made his escape. Hardy felt he was above it and rolled out of the ring and left as Taker attacked.
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Post by norsisclouds on May 7, 2012 19:31:02 GMT -5
What happened at Survivor Series 05? Smackdown v. RAW match that Orton won for SD. Undertaker made his return and the SD guys that were celebrating with Orton were to take Chokeslams while Orton made his escape. Hardy felt he was above it and rolled out of the ring and left as Taker attacked. Which led to Undertaker upbraiding Matt backstage, calling him a "mark for himself" and turning down a suggestion to turn it into a storyline from some guy in Creative trying to soothe things over, saying he wouldn't want to work with someone like Matt Hardy. Hence the JBL burial (look up "JBL promo on Mattitude" on YouTube and the finish to their match at Armageddon where he gets humiliated and pummeled in the ropes, and Matt's Royal Rumble Elimination in 06 which was apparent punishment for trying to get himself fired after Edge won the title) and jobbing he did for the rest of the year. Imagine how much of a shit list you have to be on backstage to have your rumble appearance include you getting dry humped by Viscera while the guy that stole your girlfriend is maineventing with the WWE title. Matt was just not an easy guy to work with for much of his time on the roster. I remember watching at the time and wondering why on Earth WWE was jobbing him out/burying so badly. I dunno I feel bad for the guy sometimes but a lot of stuff was his own doing.
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Post by Starshine on May 7, 2012 19:48:33 GMT -5
Woah, hold on a second. When did Matt Hardy start acting like a grown up?
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Post by Sam Punk on May 7, 2012 20:52:42 GMT -5
Matt being a douche doesn't change the fact that Edge was married... And that Matt was his friend... Like they say, bros before hos.
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Post by arrogantmodel on May 8, 2012 0:05:52 GMT -5
Wasn't Edge married to Val Venis' sister? The plot thickens!
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Post by norsisclouds on May 8, 2012 0:45:25 GMT -5
Wasn't Edge married to Val Venis' sister? The plot thickens! No that was his first wife. He divorced her in 04 and married his second wife a few months later, and a few months after that got caught cheating with Lita. He's not exactly um...a paragon of monogamy he said as much at his own HOF speech...which I thought was hilarious.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2012 2:57:46 GMT -5
I wonder if he knows Lita said this about him on Edge's DVD... ...but in any case, Matt's career had other problems aside from the affair. I think we've all talked about it to death, like the Survivor Series incident in 05, fighting with Finlay, his fights with Laurinitis that caused him to job to Zack Gowen and lose a storyline to A-Train in the first place, trying to get himself fired when he found out Edge won the WWE title in 06...and he was already getting buried on Smackdown BEFORE he made the switch to RAW to be with his girlfriend. Then they buried him further when Lita didn't want to play ball with storylines. Really, I think dating anyone on the roster is bad for your career, no matter who you are--unless it's Stephanie and you're Triple H--but he did himself no favors by picking fights with the wrong people and running his mouth when he should have kept it shut, and I'm not just talking about the affair incident, there were numerous stories about him being a general difficult to work with, problematic guy backstage. There are very few expections to that rule, Tommy Dreamer & his wife. And even then, Tommy and Beulah had an off again, on again relationship where Tommy hooked up with Francine for a while.
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Post by Back to being Cenanuff on May 8, 2012 9:09:12 GMT -5
Former WWE star Matt Hardy was recently asked on Twitter about his current relationship with WWE Hall of Famer Adam "Edge" Copeland and whether or not any bad blood still remains involving Amy "Lita" Dumas these many years later. "We've both moved on and are (past) those mistakes. I can't hold on to hate that doesn't even exist anymore. It's unhealthy and contaminates the positivity in your life. And life's too short not to be positive and happy in my opinion.
You gonna finish those fries?"Source: Prowrestling.net, Twitter.com/MattHardyBrand ***************************** No Bad Blood from Cow Blood... Fixed for my own amusement.
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Post by A damn road sign on May 8, 2012 9:17:33 GMT -5
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