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Post by Krimzon on Dec 9, 2011 2:07:06 GMT -5
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Post by Unocal 76 on Dec 9, 2011 2:08:24 GMT -5
Looking at what the Hornets were slated to get, methinks the owners were angrier about this than New Orleans.
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Post by MGH on Dec 9, 2011 2:11:11 GMT -5
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Post by andrew8798 on Dec 9, 2011 2:12:05 GMT -5
Jason Richardson going off on Gilbert.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2011 2:12:31 GMT -5
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Post by Lancers on Dec 9, 2011 2:13:41 GMT -5
It's complicated.
Small-market teams like the Hornets are basically f***ed. They might as well not even bother drafting top talent. Because star players want to play (a) with other star players or (b) play in big markets like NY or LA. When you draft a perennial all-star and you're in Memphis or Milwaukee, what happens once their contract expires and they want to partner up with a couple of their buddies in Brooklyn or with the Lakers?
But you can't blame the players either. They have the right to choose where they want to play after they fulfilled their contractual obligations in their rookie contract. If I wanted to play for the Mavericks or the Celtics, I have every right to go there under the condition that they can sign me under the cap or do a sign-and-trade with my current squad.
But you can't blame the owners either. If you have a HOF-caliber talent, he sells tickets. He's the face of your organization. You don't want to give that up for a couple of benchwarmers, draft picks and other spare parts.
The issue here is Chris Paul wants to play with either the Lakers or the Knicks. It forces New Orleans to deal with only two options. Rumor is that the Clippers and the Warriors both had offers out for CP3 that were arguably better than the Lakers one, but couldn't take the deal because CP3 said he won't re-up with either squad.
So now what do the Hornets do? Force to take a trade that basically takes on significantly more salary and simultaneously stunts your team's potential? Nothing about this deal puts the Hornets any closer to title contention than they were 24 hours ago. They're handcuffed.
As for Paul, he wants his cake and eat it too. He wants to play for the Lakers or the Knicks and he's gonna want the max deal. Only way he gets it is through the Hornets. Is he willing to forego potentially 20 to 30 million dollars to sign straight up with either of these teams? I don't know too many people that would. Should he be forced to stay in New Orleans just for the bigger contract and a team that probably won't contend for a title?
As for Stern, I said to anyone willing to listen that he was on borrowed time. I even suggested that one of the caveats of the new CBA deal would be for him to step down as commissioner. But he's also kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place here. The NBA owns the Hornets. Which complicates ANY trade involving CP3 no matter the location. They probably would want him veto a deal with the Knicks too.
Bottom line, this is a situation where NOBODY comes out looking good.
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Post by Captain Patren Fenderbaum-X on Dec 9, 2011 2:20:37 GMT -5
RealSkipBayless Skip Bayless Can this be true? Other owners protested that league-owned Hornets traded CP3 to the Lakers? Don't want rich to get richer? I'm going IN.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2011 2:22:38 GMT -5
RealSkipBayless Skip Bayless Can this be true? Other owners protested that league-owned Hornets traded CP3 to the Lakers? Don't want rich to get richer? I'm going IN. Uh-oh. Isn't this how the Vietnam War started?
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Post by WorkingInAColeMine on Dec 9, 2011 2:28:48 GMT -5
Wait I'm confused. Bayless tweeted something without the word "Tebow" in it?
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Post by Unocal 76 on Dec 9, 2011 2:32:10 GMT -5
Wait I'm confused. Bayless tweeted something without the word "Tebow" in it? During the NBA season, he's very NBA tweet heavy.
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Post by Krimzon on Dec 9, 2011 2:32:35 GMT -5
Wait I'm confused. Bayless tweeted something without the word "Tebow" in it? His mind is starting to go.
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Post by WorkingInAColeMine on Dec 9, 2011 2:39:07 GMT -5
This seems to make sense. I did just get home.
But if the NBA runs the Hornets, which is messed up but happens, they can't make that deal. The problem I heard, which is the point I agree with most, is how it got that far without the NBA saying no.
It is dicey certainly.
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Post by Unocal 76 on Dec 9, 2011 4:07:07 GMT -5
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Post by horsemen4ever on Dec 9, 2011 7:31:05 GMT -5
Finally some justice. The Lakers always get what they want for nothing. If the Lakers want Paul, they have to deplete all of their treadeable assets like the Knicks did for Carmello. If they want Paul they can have him, but the peanlity should be no Dwight Howard.
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Dec 9, 2011 9:55:00 GMT -5
The Leauge just wants the East to get the power. They hate the West.
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Post by stealthamo on Dec 9, 2011 10:07:48 GMT -5
ESPN's Chris Broussard is reporting that Blazers guard Brandon Roy is expected to retire due to his degenerative knees.
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Post by Convoy on Dec 9, 2011 10:16:49 GMT -5
The Leauge just wants the East to get the power. They hate the West. Then me and the league administration have something in common. And I was busy yesterday at my office Christmas party and missed all of the fun. As a New Yorker (although a Bulls fan) I would prefer Chandler over Paul for the Knicks. I've always been in the camp that said Douglas can be their PG of the future.
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Post by SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts on Dec 9, 2011 10:41:07 GMT -5
ESPN's Chris Broussard is reporting that Blazers guard Brandon Roy is expected to retire due to his degenerative knees. The reason they didn't use amnesty on him.
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Post by MGH on Dec 9, 2011 11:07:22 GMT -5
LScola4 I'm on my way to the Toyota Center, this is going to be fun. The good thing is that the TC it´s on the way to the airport, just in case...
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