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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Dec 21, 2011 13:51:49 GMT -5
Well not flat out official, official. But this timeline does appear in the newest official Zelda artbook recently released in Japan, meaning it is from Nintendo. So it is the closest we've come to official, official. And it might actually surprise you. Yep, a triple split timeline, as opposed to the commonly used double split timeline. Much like in the double split, the split occurs after Ocarina of Time. They do go with the two traditional splits of one timeline following Link's adventures when he was sent back as a kid at the end of OoT, and the other timeline continuing in the Hyrule left without a Link at the end of OoT. The third timeline, however, comes from Link NOT defeating Ganondorf in OoT. Basically, the OoT Link dies in this timeline. I gotta say, I did not see this triple timeline coming at all. But in a way, it makes sense. It follows the Tri-Force, and is split into three timelines, each one being controlled by the owner of a piece of the Tri-Force. The timeline of Power is Ganon's timeline, the one where he defeats Link. The timeline of Courage is Link's timeline, and is the one with Major's Mask in it. Finally, the timeline of Wisdom is Zelda's timeline and is the Wind Waker saga. So, Zelda fans, satisfied with Nintendo's timeline?
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Post by The Ichi on Dec 21, 2011 13:53:17 GMT -5
Honestly, I don't care one bit. Never have. They're (great) games about a mute guy in green saving the World, that's all I've ever taken them for. Though it is funny that the first two released games are the last ones in the timeline.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Dec 21, 2011 13:55:24 GMT -5
Honestly, I don't care one bit. Never have. It's not like the games even connect to eachother. Well Ocarina and Majora's do, as does Zelda and Zelda II. But other than that, yeah not direct connections, but there are vague connections there, like how Shadow of the Colossus and ICO have vague connections to one another.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Dec 21, 2011 14:16:34 GMT -5
Awakening and Four Swords GC seem kind of shoehorned in.
I also think The Big N copped out on saying how much time takes place in between games (ie : how often it switches to a New Link)
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Post by Cyno on Dec 21, 2011 14:20:59 GMT -5
I don't think Nintendo even knows what they want to do with the Zelda continuity or not. Just a few years ago, they said a timeline didn't exist except for the specifically connected games (like Zelda and Zelda II).
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Post by Mr Snrub on Dec 21, 2011 14:41:11 GMT -5
Remember it's called the "Legend" of zelda. Each game is the interpretation of the legend. There isn't a timeline, i think
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 21, 2011 16:17:17 GMT -5
Well it fits my usual statement that Zelda 2 was the final one in the series since the point was to keep from Ganon coming back to life It makes sense I guess... but yeah it's The Legend of Zelda they don't need to fully interconnect as legends don't always fit other legends of the same topic
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Post by Free Hat on Dec 21, 2011 16:20:30 GMT -5
It's funny, the more they attempt to tie these games together, the more convoluted it seems to get. If the possibility of Link dying at the end of OoT is enough to create a third timeline, shouldn't that be true of every Zelda game? Like shouldn't we have a bonafide multiverse thing going on by now?
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Post by rapidfire187 on Dec 21, 2011 16:34:42 GMT -5
So what's the difference between Four Swords and Four Swords Adventure?? I thought Four Swords was just the multiplayer crap that came with the Link to the Past GBA port. It actually has a story!?
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Post by Free Hat on Dec 21, 2011 16:50:21 GMT -5
So what's the difference between Four Swords and Four Swords Adventure?? I thought Four Swords was just the multiplayer crap that came with the Link to the Past GBA port. It actually has a story!? Yeah, apparently it's pretty much a full fledged Zelda game unto itself, just smaller and without an overworld. I think Nintendo packaged it with LttP mostly because they didn't think it could sell on its own. Looking at the dismal sales of its Gamecube sequel, they were probably right. I think both games also tie in with Minish Cap, insofar as they share the same villain.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 21, 2011 18:09:09 GMT -5
The problem with the Gamecube sequel is they were still trying the use your gameboy as a controller gimmick.
Which limits your sales to people that A. have a gameboy advance, and B. have or are willing to purchase a cable that only works for like 2 games,
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Post by Free Hat on Dec 21, 2011 18:16:24 GMT -5
The problem with the Gamecube sequel is they were still trying the use your gameboy as a controller gimmick. Which limits your sales to people that A. have a gameboy advance, and B. have or are willing to purchase a cable that only works for like 2 games, It could be played in single player using the GC controller. It loses a lot of its appeal that way, but it's still fun.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 21, 2011 19:03:54 GMT -5
Well yes but the whole point, much like Crystal Chronicles was the four player multiplayer.
Which could only be accessed with the GBA
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Post by BorneAgain on Dec 21, 2011 20:22:06 GMT -5
I actually once thought up a third timeline that accounted for LTTP. Basically in the main timeline... there was no Link around the time of OOT at all. Thus Ganon, with no Link to open the door in the Temple of Time for him went to war with the armies of Hyrule, a violent conflict that shook the world.
In the midst of all this a Hyrulian mother sent herself back in time (perhaps she somehow got access to and her wish granted from the Triforce before Ganon could) to before the great conflict, eventually taking her infant son to the Kokiri Forest and dying of her injuries from the war. The Great Deku Tree, sensing he would be a boy of destiny took care of him from then on.
Thus Link's very existence in Hyrule is what initially split the timeline to begin with. Thus we have:
No Link: Where Ganon gained access to the Tri-Force in the Sacred Realm, but his wish trapped in the Golden Land, eventually turning into the Dark World.
Child Link: Where a young Link managed to prevent Ganondorf's rise from occurring at all.
Adult Link: Where Link disappeared completely, and when Ganondorf escaped and conquered Hyrule, the Goddesses flooded the world.
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Post by erisi236 on Dec 21, 2011 20:33:27 GMT -5
About time to make Legend of Zelda III
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Post by Burst on Dec 21, 2011 21:18:24 GMT -5
I could've sworn that Link's Awakening was supposed to be the direct sequel to Link to the Past, but I soooooorta guess you could fit the Oracle pair in between there.
Now you've just got to explain why Ganon gets progressively Piggy-er in that branch.
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Post by Michael Coello on Dec 21, 2011 22:04:45 GMT -5
Okay, I'm gonna sound so ignroant, but if Link supposedly lost and died in the one timeline, how could it continue with Link after that?
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Post by BorneAgain on Dec 21, 2011 22:14:39 GMT -5
Okay, I'm gonna sound so ignroant, but if Link supposedly lost and died in the one timeline, how could it continue with Link after that? I don't think the Links in LTTP, LOZ, and AOL were ever specifically said to be descendants of past Links.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2011 22:31:36 GMT -5
Odd and not a way I've really thought about it before - partial to the two timelines, collapsing into each other with the Oracle games thing - but this actually does make a lot of sense and explain a good few things away.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Dec 21, 2011 22:37:33 GMT -5
I could've sworn that Link's Awakening was supposed to be the direct sequel to Link to the Past, but I soooooorta guess you could fit the Oracle pair in between there. Now you've just got to explain why Ganon gets progressively Piggy-er in that branch. Well wasn't Link's Awakening a dream? If so, it seems like it could fit in wherever you want to put it.
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