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Post by rapidfire187 on Dec 12, 2011 13:44:02 GMT -5
So after beating Jak and Daxter: The Precursor Legacy yesterday, I decided it was time to start on another game. I looked through my PS2 collection and came across Kingdom Hearts, and considering that I never gave it a fair chance I decided to try it again. And now I remember why I gave up on it the last 2 times I put it in.
The controls suck for one. O as the jump button and X as attack just really bothers me. Maybe it's because Mega Man Anniversary Collection and Jak and Daxter both used X as jump, [] as attack. Anyway, I guess it takes some getting used to but it bugs me.
Second, the camera is awful, especially during combat. Instead of simply rotating the camera with the right analog stick, you use L2 and R2. Okay, fair enough...except that half the time the camera refuses to move at all, and during combat I constantly find myself targeting a different enemy on accident b/c I pressed L2. Yea, the PS2 controller has 8 buttons, a d-pad, and 2 analog sticks, but they still decided to make L2 perform two functions.
If you're playing this game blind like I am without a guide or anything it's a real pain in the ass. The first area of the game alone has two of the most irritatingly tedious fetch quests I've ever suffered through.
Ugh. I had to vent guys. I know everybody loves Kingdom Hearts so I can only assume that it gets better. Regardless, I'm going to tough it out and beat it but god damn does this game suck right now.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Dec 12, 2011 13:47:30 GMT -5
I do find it quite overrated but it's still a fun enough game. The camera issues got kinda fixed in the second game but are still a massive problem.
It still does have the most infuriating shipper fanbase outside of Avatar TLA which does hurt my enjoyment of the games. I would really like to know what the fanbases problem with Kairi is because they treat her horribly.
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Post by Cyno on Dec 12, 2011 13:51:23 GMT -5
Don't worry. I despise the entire Kingdom Hearts series.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Dec 12, 2011 13:57:53 GMT -5
Glad to see I'm not alone with this lol. My issues with the first one (keep in mind, it's the only one I've played at all) is entirely gameplay related. I'm not too fond of the characters at the moment, but I can put up with anything like that if the game is fun. At least the cut-scenes are good for the most part, though Sora's voice actor isn't that great.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Dec 12, 2011 14:02:58 GMT -5
I do find it quite overrated but it's still a fun enough game. The camera issues got kinda fixed in the second game but are still a massive problem. It still does have the most infuriating shipper fanbase outside of Avatar TLA which does hurt my enjoyment of the games. I would really like to know what the fanbases problem with Kairi is because they treat her horribly. Their problem with Kairi can be summed up by 3 reasons: 1) She has tits. 2) She has a vagina. 3) Because of the above two it means she gets in the way of all of the Sora x Riku shippers. Basically, the majority of the shipper fanbase for Kingdom Hearts want Kairi to die for their ship. Even though, if any relationship involving the original characters in the Kingdom Hearts series was 100% canonical, it would be Sora x Kairi. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2011 14:07:04 GMT -5
Kingdom Hearts was available at my local pawn shop about two weeks ago, and I considered, but instead went with the first two Xenosaga games.
I think I made the right choice as far as PS2 RPGs go. Now I need to find some of the dotHack games and Star Ocean: Till the End of Time.
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Post by The Ichi on Dec 12, 2011 14:07:52 GMT -5
It's a good concept and it's hard not to mark out for Disney and Square crossing over, but the gameplay itself is...boring. I quit after 5 hours of running around hitting the same looking enemies with a key.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Dec 12, 2011 14:08:10 GMT -5
Their problem with Kairi can be summed up by 3 reasons: 1) She has tits. Pssh. Barely. |
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Dec 12, 2011 14:13:13 GMT -5
I do find it quite overrated but it's still a fun enough game. The camera issues got kinda fixed in the second game but are still a massive problem. It still does have the most infuriating shipper fanbase outside of Avatar TLA which does hurt my enjoyment of the games. I would really like to know what the fanbases problem with Kairi is because they treat her horribly. Their problem with Kairi can be summed up by 3 reasons: 1) She has tits. 2) She has a vagina. 3) Because of the above two it means she gets in the way of all of the Sora x Riku shippers. Basically, the majority of the shipper fanbase for Kingdom Hearts want Kairi to die for their ship. Even though, if any relationship involving the original characters in the Kingdom Hearts series was 100% canonical, it would be Sora x Kairi. I'm gonna be honest- I myself am a Sora x Riku shipper (despite being a straight male), mostly because I think their personalities suit each other better. Still, I also don't get fans wishng death on Kairi because of that. But yeah, I adore anything Kingdom Hearts related, mostly because of my Disney fandom and my Nomura fandom. And KH2's gameplay marks a large improvment. |
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Dec 12, 2011 14:15:08 GMT -5
Their problem with Kairi can be summed up by 3 reasons: 1) She has tits. Pssh. Barely. It isn't "barely" in KH2.  |
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Dec 12, 2011 14:17:19 GMT -5
Their problem with Kairi can be summed up by 3 reasons: 1) She has tits. 2) She has a vagina. 3) Because of the above two it means she gets in the way of all of the Sora x Riku shippers. Basically, the majority of the shipper fanbase for Kingdom Hearts want Kairi to die for their ship. Even though, if any relationship involving the original characters in the Kingdom Hearts series was 100% canonical, it would be Sora x Kairi. I'm gonna be honest- I myself am a Sora x Riku shipper (despite being a straight male), mostly because I think their personalities suit each other better. Still, I also don't get fans wishng death on Kairi because of that. But yeah, I adore anything Kingdom Hearts related, mostly because of my Disney fandom and my Nomura fandom. And KH2's gameplay marks a large improvment. Well of course I wasn't counting you in with the majority of the Sora x Riku shippers, Clash. You're better than that lot. |
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Post by rapidfire187 on Dec 12, 2011 14:20:18 GMT -5
At first, Kingdom Hearts kind of pissed me off. Now it makes me want to masturbate. Thanks FAN!!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2011 14:22:45 GMT -5
My favorite game in the series is the GBA game since it had a better gameplay system than the console games.
Also, the gummi ship stuff is probably the worst ship system I've ever seen in a game.
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Post by Red Impact on Dec 12, 2011 15:12:30 GMT -5
I thought the first was OK, and the second was really overrated. I see what they were trying to do, the concept was great and the gameplay wasn't bad, but it falls in to the typical JRPG trap of turning really tedious in terms of gameplay.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Dec 12, 2011 15:50:43 GMT -5
I thought the first was OK, and the second was really overrated. I see what they were trying to do, the concept was great and the gameplay wasn't bad, but it falls in to the typical JRPG trap of turning really tedious in terms of gameplay. But hell, in the first one it's already tedious within the first half hour. I just hate that they throw two boring ass fetch quests at you before you do anything meaningful at all. Plus, Kairi's supposed to be helping you with the raft but all she does is stand there and tell you what to get. What a useless twat. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2011 15:55:03 GMT -5
I gave up on the Kingdom Hearts midway through the second one.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2011 16:06:32 GMT -5
To be honest I quit on the first one and told myself I'd never get the sequel.
Somehow I did, and I honestly liked that one WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 12, 2011 17:29:24 GMT -5
Thought it was awesome. One moreso than two, but both were good.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Dec 12, 2011 17:31:38 GMT -5
They're the only games my girlfriend is better at than me. Which pisses me off, because she sucks at 99% of the games out there, but with Kingdom Hearts, she's like a savant or something.
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Post by moneyman20 on Dec 12, 2011 17:31:42 GMT -5
The Camera became a huge issue for me when I faced some of the harder, more mobile bosses like Riku's second battle and Ansem's second battle.
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