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Post by Triple H buried SnS on Sept 7, 2012 14:14:51 GMT -5
You aren't talking game balance, you are talking town to mafia ratios...
Which factors into game balance, but isn't the only thing to consider.
Consdier this say you have 26 players, 6 of which are mafia, the rest town. That's 77% town and 22% mafia. Looks pretty good when you look at the other game ratios. But say every mafia gets their own night kill. Suddenly it is a near statistically impossible for town to win. The ratios help, but the roles themselves need to be considered heavily. Too many power roles on one side can cause problems.
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Post by Big Bad Brad on Sept 7, 2012 14:17:55 GMT -5
You aren't talking game balance, you are talking town to mafia ratios... Which factors into game balance, but isn't the only thing to consider. Consdier this say you have 26 players, 6 of which are mafia, the rest town. That's 77% town and 22% mafia. Looks pretty good when you look at the other game ratios. But say every mafia gets their own night kill. Suddenly it is a near statistically impossible for town to win. The ratios help, but the roles themselves need to be considered heavily. Too many power roles on one side can cause problems. Oh I get what your saying now don't worry about that the roles I got are perfectly balanced all the way though with 21 I just had to lose some important roles on both town and mafia side and things evened out. No matter how many I end up with I can assure you the mafia nor the town would have a clear cut advantage. And you can take my word on that I have been studying this very hard for the last two months just take my word for it.
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Post by Big Bad Brad on Sept 7, 2012 14:41:08 GMT -5
sorry for making another post
I just wanted to say the way I set up the power roles
well I put all the normal townies lined up against those with power roles and I try to make them balanced out
This is just an example not saying this is how many roles I'm using or how many townies I'll be using
lets say we have 10 town I would want to even things up
5 power roles 5 normal townies
now when I add in an extra character do I want another power role or another normal townie or do I want to add another mafia character, or I may add a power role that really isn't that powerful and there are some that are nice but in the long run not to overpowered.
I think everything is good enough all the way around.
and again no matter if I have 21 through 26 players there will not be just 10 townies this was an example.
So can we not go on about how my game is balanced any more it causes me to keep going back and checking everything to make absolutely sure its perfect.
Trust me I put hours, days, weeks even months into fixing up this mafia game so its perfect and well balanced I'm putting my heart and soul into this game and I want it to run smoothy and it will I've learned from some of the best mafia players and mafia hosts around through all these mafia games I've absorbed some of their knowledge of what to do and what not to do so I think I'll be fine.
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Post by Big Bad Brad on Sept 15, 2012 4:53:10 GMT -5
I created something I like you all will like
I created an intro video for my upcoming DBZ: Abridged Mafia I included all the other Mafia games in the video as well except for True Blood & Batman because they are still going on and I didn't include the mafia games before WWE Mafia.
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Post by Big Bad Brad on Sept 15, 2012 16:41:35 GMT -5
What did anybody think of the intro video I made for DBZ: Abridged Mafia.
I might add Batman to the video if it finishes before I start DBZ: Abridged
I will probably add True Blood Mafia to the video after it finishes really shouldn't be to hard to edit things around and add those two games in.
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Post by TOO SWEET on Sept 15, 2012 17:00:07 GMT -5
What did anybody think of the intro video I made for DBZ: Abridged Mafia. *thumbs up* Also, Sheamus is most likely going to be booked this week.
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Post by Big Bad Brad on Sept 15, 2012 17:04:20 GMT -5
What did anybody think of the intro video I made for DBZ: Abridged Mafia. *thumbs up* Also, Sheamus is most likely going to be booked this week. That's cool and thanks I edited the video a bit and included Batman & True Blood I just put Evil is still on the loose once those games finish I'll edit again and add in which side won. Also there was a bit of a problem the Coming Soon started to soon in the first video
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Post by Dub H on Sept 17, 2012 23:42:13 GMT -5
I will try something different for my game in question of writeups.
First i will do a writeup based on the thread discussion
For example,if SnS and Brad accuse each other,then i would write a scene of their character arguing.
And after all that i will make the nigh scenes,what you guys think?
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Post by Triple H buried SnS on Sept 18, 2012 0:20:39 GMT -5
you would basically be giving away those players characters. that could potentially be bad...
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Post by Dub H on Sept 18, 2012 0:22:48 GMT -5
you would basically be giving away those players characters. that could potentially be bad... You see,my game doesn't has that character problem because 1- It will be random,character wont give away the role 2-The Team Fortress 2 game is Red Team vs BLU Team. There is no character that is more scum likely than the other.Since both teams that are enemies will become one against the mafia. There is no Evil Character. One of the points i want to make with that write up....CHARACTER.WON'T.MATTER
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Post by TOO SWEET on Sept 18, 2012 0:24:22 GMT -5
you would basically be giving away those players characters. that could potentially be bad... You see,my game doesn't has that character problem because 1- It will be random,character wont give away the role 2-The Team Fortress 2 game is Red Team vs BLU Team. There is no character that is more scum likely than the other.Since both teams that are enemies will become one against the mafia. There is no Evil Character. One of the points i want to make with that write up....CHARACTER.WON'T.MATTER You just need to make sure that the night phases don't give any sort of hints towards the characters with that setup.
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Post by Triple H buried SnS on Sept 18, 2012 0:26:14 GMT -5
ahem...that's why I said "potentially"
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Post by Dub H on Sept 18, 2012 0:28:07 GMT -5
The only thing i would do with the character is night kill.Like on Vadertime mafia,the character being killed by a mysterious figures.
ANd yeh....thaks for the feedback SnS and SS.You guys with the S rocks.Sorry if i sounded angry SnS,i wasn't,i just wanted to make that clear so the game wont have confusion
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Post by MrBRulzOK on Sept 18, 2012 0:35:51 GMT -5
Yeah, I made that mistake before except I based scenes off of night actions. I wasn't blatant about it, but once people figured it out it was difficult to hide.
You might be able to do something like that every now and then, but I wouldn't make it a regular habit.
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Post by Big Bad Brad on Sept 18, 2012 1:05:37 GMT -5
Yeah you just want to be careful revealing roles during the night write up.
I've already said I plan on revealing all the characters in my game during the Day 0 write up and when someone gets lynched I'll reveal some characters talking and arguing but I wont reveal who has what character or what role if any that character has and depending on the votes wont effect the lynching write up so Mafia A could be lynched and Mafia B could talk trash on Mafia A, basically it will be random on what characters talk against other characters so mafia could talk against mafia or town could talk against town I don't want anybody looking at the write up as a clue to who is mafia.
Does that make sense?
The night write up will just have a mysterious figure killing whoever gets night killed.
I think my write ups will be very entertaining I love the Day 0 write up I did for DBZ: Abridged Mafia it's good.
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Post by Allison Reynolds on Sept 18, 2012 1:32:49 GMT -5
I have a quite a few things to say about all this. I'll get to it when I have the time.
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Post by Triple H buried SnS on Sept 18, 2012 8:24:11 GMT -5
Sorry if i sounded angry SnS,i wasn't,i just wanted to make that clear so the game wont have confusion I did not take it that way. No worries.
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Post by Triple H buried SnS on Sept 18, 2012 13:24:47 GMT -5
Anyone familiar with artemis fowl? Thinking about making my first small one themed in that manner.
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on Sept 21, 2012 22:10:54 GMT -5
Any mafia games needing players right now?
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Post by Big Bad Brad on Sept 21, 2012 22:23:00 GMT -5
Any mafia games needing players right now? Not right now around here we usually do two mafias at a time one large game and one small game. Once True Blood Mafia ends I'll be doing DBZ: Abridged Mafia which is a large game and once Batman mafia gets finished a Saved by the Bell mafia game will begin which is a small game. I say it might be awhile before True Blood ends but Batman mafia shouldn't last that much longer.
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