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Post by Brother Nero....Wolfe on May 20, 2012 15:14:29 GMT -5
It'd be a terrible business idea to get rid of Sin Cara. In what respect? I get that his merch sells and the kids love him, but the guy has not adapted at all. No one is buying tickets just to see Sin Cara. I think they should keep only to see if he can adjust. If he can't, he should go back to Mexico. I hardly see it as a "terrible business decision". Its just a decision. He's not a top guy. He moves merch. You said it yourself. And you damn well bet he sells tickets when they tour on Mexico. Last time he was there there were tons of MISTICO chants.
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Post by Djm Doesn't Find You Funny on May 20, 2012 15:15:28 GMT -5
I'm hoping for a Power Rangers-style stable of multiple Sin Caras. We already have: Sin Cara Azul, Sin Cara Negro, To be followed by: Sin Cara Rojo, Sin Cara Amarillo Sin Cara Rosa then in about 6 months we will get a new heel... Sin Cara Verde! You KNOW it makes sense. And yes, I did go and look up all those colours in Spanish I'd be worried that Sin Cara Rosa would be played by Rosa Mendes, and she'd botch pointing her finger.
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Post by Urfarkendarf on May 20, 2012 15:19:06 GMT -5
In what respect? I get that his merch sells and the kids love him, but the guy has not adapted at all. No one is buying tickets just to see Sin Cara. I think they should keep only to see if he can adjust. If he can't, he should go back to Mexico. I hardly see it as a "terrible business decision". Its just a decision. He's not a top guy. He moves merch. You said it yourself. And you damn well bet he sells tickets when they tour on Mexico. Last time he was there there were tons of MISTICO chants. So what? They do what, 5-10 shows at the max in Mexico per year? People outside of the US will buy tickets regardless because of how rarely the WWE tour in those countries. Rey and Hunico are still there. The only thing I was arguing against was that it'd be a "terrible business decision". Mexicans are still going to go to shows regardless if Sin Cara is there or not.
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Post by Brother Nero....Wolfe on May 20, 2012 15:22:35 GMT -5
He moves merch. You said it yourself. And you damn well bet he sells tickets when they tour on Mexico. Last time he was there there were tons of MISTICO chants. So what? They do what, 5-10 shows at the max in Mexico per year? People outside of the US will buy tickets regardless because of how rarely the WWE tour in those countries. Rey and Hunico are still there. The only thing I was arguing against was that it'd be a "terrible business decision". Mexicans are still going to go to shows regardless if Sin Cara is there or not. I just personally don't think getting rid of a huge draw in Mexico, a place where they are trying to expand their influence in(just last year they had their first raw taping) is a good business decision.
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Post by The Peoples Elbow on May 20, 2012 15:22:52 GMT -5
He should be injured or busted any minute now...
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Post by Urfarkendarf on May 20, 2012 15:25:58 GMT -5
So what? They do what, 5-10 shows at the max in Mexico per year? People outside of the US will buy tickets regardless because of how rarely the WWE tour in those countries. Rey and Hunico are still there. The only thing I was arguing against was that it'd be a "terrible business decision". Mexicans are still going to go to shows regardless if Sin Cara is there or not. I just personally don't think getting rid of a huge draw in Mexico, a place where they are trying to expand their influence in(just last year they had their first raw taping) is a good business decision. And I disagree. People who watch WWE in Mexico are still going to watch and attend regardless if Sin Cara is there or not. I don't see a huge drop off happening in Mexico because of one guy who has done absolutely nothing but botch and point in the WWE so far not being there.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2012 15:26:19 GMT -5
It'd be a terrible business idea to get rid of Sin Cara. In what respect? I get that his merch sells and the kids love him, but the guy has not adapted at all. No one is buying tickets just to see Sin Cara. I think they should keep only to see if he can adjust. If he can't, he should go back to Mexico. I hardly see it as a "terrible business decision". Its just a decision. He's not a top guy. does anyone buy tickets just to see one guy?
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Post by Indiana Miz on May 20, 2012 15:26:49 GMT -5
I think Sin Cara's botches get blown out of proportion. Ever since he grazed the rope on his debut and fell off the top rope (which wasn't his fault) people have been analyzing his matches for the smallest mistakes.
That being said, I hope he spends a little time on house shows or FCW before his TV return just to help smooth out his ring work.
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Post by Urfarkendarf on May 20, 2012 15:27:25 GMT -5
In what respect? I get that his merch sells and the kids love him, but the guy has not adapted at all. No one is buying tickets just to see Sin Cara. I think they should keep only to see if he can adjust. If he can't, he should go back to Mexico. I hardly see it as a "terrible business decision". Its just a decision. He's not a top guy. does anyone buy tickets just to see one guy? No. People buy tickets to see WWE. But some of the discussion in this thread make it seem that without him the WWE is dead in Mexico.
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Post by WarChief on May 20, 2012 15:29:21 GMT -5
Meh, not really a fan of Sin Cara, never was.
This guy didn't even get close to living up to his hype.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on May 20, 2012 16:39:22 GMT -5
I found some footage of his return match. Where is this from? I must see the whole thing
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2012 16:43:23 GMT -5
I think Sin Cara's botches get blown out of proportion. Ever since he grazed the rope on his debut and fell off the top rope (which wasn't his fault) people have been analyzing his matches for the smallest mistakes. That being said, I hope he spends a little time on house shows or FCW before his TV return just to help smooth out his ring work. Absolutely his botches are blown out of proportion. I still laugh from the time he injured his knee, and people were all screaming botch for coming up short on the dive when it was obvious he had wrecked his knee planting to jump. Put him in there with someone that can legitimately go like Jericho and there would be no "botches."
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2012 16:52:03 GMT -5
When Mysterio comes back, they ought to team him up with Sin Cara. It would give a dynamic tag team that would strengthen the division, lessen the workload on Mysterio with his bad knees, and hopefully help Sin Cara learn the WWE style better and cut down on his botches, which did happen constantly despite the apologists. He screwed up more moves than anyone in WWE while he was wrestling every week, its that simple.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on May 20, 2012 17:02:54 GMT -5
This is his last chance. After the injury and the wellness suspension, all eyes are on him to perform to the level that he can or get tossed. I think Mysterio's recent suspension has probably actually helped Sin Cara's chances; now that WWE's gotten another reminder that their established luchador draw may not be around much longer, I can see them giving a bit more leeway to the new guy so long as there's someone who they can sell masks of to the little Jimmys.
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Post by Bone Daddy on May 20, 2012 17:16:12 GMT -5
In what respect? I get that his merch sells and the kids love him, but the guy has not adapted at all. No one is buying tickets just to see Sin Cara. I think they should keep only to see if he can adjust. If he can't, he should go back to Mexico. I hardly see it as a "terrible business decision". Its just a decision. He's not a top guy. does anyone buy tickets just to see one guy? I bought a ticket to see The Rock
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Post by hughgrection on May 20, 2012 22:12:23 GMT -5
I found some footage of his return match. Where is this from? I must see the whole thing Not sure, I found it on reddit /squaredcircle
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