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Post by horsemen4ever on Jan 7, 2012 19:54:21 GMT -5
Who remembers the original Daily Show? It is different from what it is today, but it had its charm. Now a days it is stuck in a political bubble, they used to talk about pop culture and politics. I loved the original opening. Here is a sample of one of the early episodes.
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Post by Sajoa Moe on Jan 7, 2012 19:57:35 GMT -5
Back when I could actually stand to watch The Daily Show before Jon Stewart showed his unfunny mug.
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Post by chazraps on Jan 7, 2012 19:58:21 GMT -5
They're a product of different eras. The Craig Kilborn/early Stewart days were a send-ip of 'A Current Affair' special interest shows that were prominent in the mid/late-90s. The turning point was the 2000 election when more of those shows, along with the rise of the 24-hour news cycle, began to skew more political. I feel the change was for the better as the writing got sharper and, along with 'The Colbert Report' being a show that could only be birthed out of the Bush era of news media coverage, has evolved into an effective comedy time capsule of each era.
They still weave pop culture in where it works, but for the most part it's a smarter more fulfilling show.
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Post by horsemen4ever on Jan 7, 2012 20:13:50 GMT -5
If they want to focus on politics fair enough, but when the undisputed biggest news story of the day is not about politics, give it a rest for one day.
I am surprised they covered Michael Jackson's death, or the earthquake in Japan.
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Post by Cyno on Jan 7, 2012 20:16:51 GMT -5
I never liked Craig Kilborn. Jon Stewart taking over the show was easily the best thing to happen to it.
Though I had no idea Jeffrey Ross was a correspondent.
Also I find it highly amusing the OP says Kilborn's was a lot less political and the example he uses is all about the 1996 Republican National Convention.
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Post by hotshotalex on Jan 7, 2012 20:21:21 GMT -5
Count me in as someone else who didn't like Craig Killborn.
The Daily Show and The Late Late Show improved greatly after he left.
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Post by chazraps on Jan 7, 2012 20:21:52 GMT -5
If they want to focus on politics fair enough, but when the undisputed biggest news story of the day is not about politics, give it a rest for one day. I am surprised they covered Michael Jackson's death, or the earthquake in Japan. What did they not cover that you feel they should have covered? |
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Post by turkeysandwich on Jan 7, 2012 20:26:21 GMT -5
I loved the Craig Kilborn years, I was in high school then, and I would watch the Daily Show every day. After the 2000 election I quit watching because it became pretty much 100% political, and I personally just don't enjoy political comedy.
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Post by horsemen4ever on Jan 7, 2012 20:26:54 GMT -5
If they want to focus on politics fair enough, but when the undisputed biggest news story of the day is not about politics, give it a rest for one day. I am surprised they covered Michael Jackson's death, or the earthquake in Japan. What did they not cover that you feel they should have covered? Well off the top of my head The Decession. That was the biggest news story in the country by far at the time, and they ignored it. |
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jan 7, 2012 20:30:07 GMT -5
I remember those early Daily Shows. Back in college when me and my friends would go out, we'd come back, watch Late Night with Conan O'Brien and then switch over to watch the Daily Show with Craig Kilborn. The first time we tuned in and saw John Stewart we were all like "who's this idiot? He's not as funny as Kilborn". That quickly changed.
Yeah, those early shows were more a satire on news programs in general and not the political news coverage that dominates networks like CNN and Fox News now. It was more common for them to parody more human interest stories or pop culture stuff the political debates. I remember some of their early segments like "Pudding Time" or "The Top 5 Earning Movies of the Week in Lira".
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jan 7, 2012 20:30:07 GMT -5
I loved the Craig Kilborn years, I was in high school then, and I would watch the Daily Show every day. After the 2000 election I quit watching because it became pretty much 100% political, and I personally just don't enjoy political comedy. Pretty much this, right here. "It's Thursday. And I just want to dance. Dance. DANCE." I'm sick of pretty much everything, everywhere, having to be all political, all the time. |
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Post by chazraps on Jan 7, 2012 20:33:12 GMT -5
What did they not cover that you feel they should have covered? Well off the top of my head The Decession. That was the biggest news story in the country by far at the time, and they ignored it. March 4th, 2009. Almost the entire show devoted to the "Decession." They covered it a lot outside of this too, not sure where you got that they ignored it from. |
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Post by moneyman20 on Jan 7, 2012 20:36:48 GMT -5
What did they not cover that you feel they should have covered? Well off the top of my head The Decession. That was the biggest news story in the country by far at the time, and they ignored it. Except when they did cover it. Edit: Beaten to it. |
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Post by horsemen4ever on Jan 7, 2012 22:41:44 GMT -5
I never liked Craig Kilborn. Jon Stewart taking over the show was easily the best thing to happen to it. Though I had no idea Jeffrey Ross was a correspondent. Also I find it highly amusing the OP says Kilborn's was a lot less political and the example he uses is all about the 1996 Republican National Convention. Well excuse me that is the only clip I could find. Besides look at the end of the clip, the interview afterwords made it clear how little they cared about politics. For the record, Jeffrey Ross was a guest correspondent, he wasn't one of the regulars. |
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Post by rapidfire187 on Jan 8, 2012 0:36:47 GMT -5
I was too young to appreciate the Daily Show back then. Didn't really start watching it until I was in 11th or 12th grade, so that was 2004 or 2005. I do remember seeing commercials for the show before Jon Stewart took over, but I had no interest in any television other than cartoons and pro wrestling really. Oddly enough, the Daily Show along with Tough Crowd are the shows that got me interested in politics for the first time. School became a little more enjoyable after I started caring about current events.
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Post by The Booty Disciple on Jan 8, 2012 1:06:15 GMT -5
I never liked Craig Kilborn. Jon Stewart taking over the show was easily the best thing to happen to it. Though I had no idea Jeffrey Ross was a correspondent. Also I find it highly amusing the OP says Kilborn's was a lot less political and the example he uses is all about the 1996 Republican National Convention. Well excuse me that is the only clip I could find. Besides look at the end of the clip, the interview afterwords made it clear how little they cared about politics. For the record, Jeffrey Ross was a guest correspondent, he wasn't one of the regulars. Dude, no reason to get defensive. You invited a conversation, and now you're getting it. If you can't handle differing opinions, perhaps proffering your own opinions up isn't exactly the wisest idea? Count me in as a Stewart guy. He has, effectively, shown he'll point out the absurdity of both sides and anyone else being silly with tongue firmly in cheek, and will engage with those he has lampooned as well. In fact, he seems to encourage discourse and disagreement. The show is as popular as it has ever been currently, and it doesn't seem to do anything more than gain momentum. |
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Post by Cyno on Jan 8, 2012 1:12:00 GMT -5
Yeah, I think if he had like, any real beef with say, Bill O'Reilly, I don't think they would be such frequent guests on each other's shows. I get the feeling they have a lot of fun just arguing each other, even when it get heated.
The Daily Show also led to the rise of one of the great satirists of our time: Stephen Colbert.
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Post by horsemen4ever on Jan 8, 2012 1:15:22 GMT -5
Well excuse me that is the only clip I could find. Besides look at the end of the clip, the interview afterwords made it clear how little they cared about politics. For the record, Jeffrey Ross was a guest correspondent, he wasn't one of the regulars. Dude, no reason to get defensive. You invited a conversation, and now you're getting it. If you can't handle differing opinions, perhaps proffering your own opinions up isn't exactly the wisest idea? Count me in as a Stewart guy. He has, effectively, shown he'll point out the absurdity of both sides and anyone else being silly with tongue firmly in cheek, and will engage with those he has lampooned as well. In fact, he seems to encourage discourse and disagreement. The show is as popular as it has ever been currently, and it doesn't seem to do anything more than gain momentum. I am not defensive about that. Just being made fun of for the clip I used. That is all I could find, it happens to be about the republican convention. |
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Post by The Booty Disciple on Jan 8, 2012 3:37:48 GMT -5
He said it was highly amusing, not that you were highly amusing. It's irony, ya know? He didn't attack you. Take a chill pill, it's just the internet.
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Post by corndog on Jan 8, 2012 4:28:43 GMT -5
Count me in as someone else who didn't like Craig Killborn. The Daily Show and The Late Late Show improved greatly after he left. I loved The Daily Show with Craig Killborn. I miss the sillyness and stupity of those days. The show is too political now. I know the example was a bad one, but what they did with it shows the difference how they handle politics on the show now versus then. However I do agree, The Late Late was horrible with him. |
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