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Post by Mayonnaise on Jun 17, 2012 23:32:54 GMT -5
You make 5 trades between WWE and TNA. The only rules are: - Trades must be somewhat equal. This mean nothing like Kurt Angle for Camacho stuff.
- Announcers can be traded for other announcers only but they won't be wrestling. So no trading Booker for Taz and then talking about how you'd put Booker in the ring.
- Tag teams can count as one person (or be split) and can be traded for only one person if necessary but the team must have been active in the last 6 months.
- The McMahons, Triple H, Undertaker and Rock cannot be moved from WWE and The Carters, Hogans and Bischoffs cannot be moved from TNA.
- If someone is playing two characters in one company, both characters switch company (If you trade Abyss, Joseph Park goes to).
- Titles stay in their home company.
- If they are gone from the company, they cannot be moved (so no using Flair, Moore, or Morgan)
Most importantly, please give a reason why. WWE RosterTNA RosterFor me: Jeff Hardy for Christian - Both guys just seem out of place and stale in their current company. I know Christian spent more time in WWE but there is just nothing I like about his WWE stuff however in TNA he was good. Hardy has done okay in TNA but he just seems at his best in WWE. Evan Bourne for Magnus - Magnus is a great up and coming guy that with some push (read TV time) behind him will be a star, Bourne does okay in WWE but with his style seems a better fit for TNA and could give the X Division the kick in the ass it needs. Bully Ray for Big Show - Let Bully Ray get the Bubba Ray Dudley name back and take this character to the top. As for Show, he gets to go to TNA, work a lighter schedule with far less travel so his career is prolonged, Hogan loves him and Show isn't afraid to put over young guys. Just seems win-win to me. ODB for Natalya - ODB gives WWE another woman who is decent in the ring, thrives in short matches and has a great character that fans will latch on to while TNA gets Nattie who can wrestle with the best of them and get a chance to show off more which would add some shine to the KOs. Rey Mysterio for AJ Styles - Again, TNA gets a huge name that can still go and would benefit from the lighter schedule. Rey can go in the X Division or the World Title scene and wouldn't look out of place like he does in WWE. WWE gets a guy who can go in the ring and do some crazy stuff like Rey (or Bourne) does and is younger so can work the tougher WWE schedule. Agree or disagree with any of the moves (don't think they are equal or don't think the person would work in the new company)? What would moves would you make?
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Jun 17, 2012 23:40:51 GMT -5
I'd like to see Kurt Angle in the 'E again, at whatever cost, but I would bet hefty money on him getting Wellness'd within seconds of stepping into the arena.
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Post by percymania on Jun 17, 2012 23:53:04 GMT -5
Show for Ray sounds like a good trade. I would also trade Cena for Angle.
Let's also trade Randy Orton for Samoa Joe and Mark Henry for The Pope.
I get one more trade? Um... how about Jack Swagger for Eric Young? That sounds good.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jun 18, 2012 0:54:55 GMT -5
Booker T for Mike Tenay
Always liked Tenay and his commentary style. I find Booker T virtually incomprehensible.
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Post by mystikz on Jun 18, 2012 0:59:48 GMT -5
what I posted in the other thread
Kurt Angle for Sheamus. I think Kurt is rather stale in TNA, and done all he can. I'd love to see him in WWE for one last run. Sheamus is rather boring as a champion, cram him into TNA's title picture could make him fresher. At least I wouldn't have to see him.
D'Angelo Dinero for Mason Ryan. Pope has done nothing in TNA for a long time. Liked him as Elijah Burke and they coulda done more with him. TNA had pretend Mason is a big deal and Batista or something.
Bobby Roode or James Storm for Alberto Del Rio. WWE gets someone they could build up with new match ups. And TNA gets someone who I want to never see again. They can go on about their former champion signing and try to make it a big deal fairly quick.
RVD for Rey Mysterio. Rey seems unhappy and always injured. Let him do some X division crap for a while before retiring. RVD can come back and again new match ups with an established star the WWE audience hasn't seen in a while.
Matt Morgan for Jack Swagger. Morgan is probably coming back anyway, but if not. WWE doesn't seem to care about Swagger anymore maybe he could use a change of scenery. It's about time for Morgan to return either way.
I mainly just sent people to TNA who bore the hell out of me.
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Post by Madagascar Fred on Jun 18, 2012 2:59:37 GMT -5
WWE gets Matt Morgan (if he's still in TNA!?) Kazarian AJ Styles Austin Aries (D-Bryan vs. Aries feud pls) Magnus
TNA gets Alberto Del Rio Kane (feud against Abyss/Joseph Park I guess) Jack Swagger Kofi Kingston Evan Bourne (X-Division)
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Post by Reflecto on Jun 18, 2012 3:38:28 GMT -5
Trade 1:
John Cena for AJ Styles and Kurt Angle. Had to cheat a bit, and if I could have cheated further, I would have. TNA has to overpay through the nose, but gets the biggest fish in the pond in exchange for it while they can still wrestle.
Jack Swagger for Samoa Joe. Both guys have gone as far as they can go in their promotions- swap them out.
Beth Phoenix and Natalya for ODB and Eric Young. Just barely gets in under the radar, and gives TNA two shots in the arm for the Knockouts, while giving WWE a much-needed woman with a character, plus a comedy guy to be named later. This, will help out for:
Santino Marella for Christopher Daniels. Eric Young makes Santino more expendable. TNA gives up a bit more, but it is matched up to help lessen the Cena trade.
Yoshi Tatsu for Chris Sabin: One of WWE's most underutilized guys goes straight up for one of TNA's most underutilized guys.
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Post by blues on Jun 18, 2012 3:40:47 GMT -5
Austin Aries for Randy Boreton
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Post by The Spelunker! on Jun 18, 2012 3:50:07 GMT -5
Reposting from the TNA thread:
I would trade:
Mike Tenay for Scott Stanford. Mike Tenay could add the rich history the WWE has to every match, and make everything feel bigger. Taz and Mike Tenay need a shakeup at least, and adding a new straight man who can hype well could really benefit TNA's product.
Rob Van Dam for Dolph Ziggler. WWE could definitely use another nameworthy main eventer, and Rob would instantly be able to fill that role. He just doesn't seem to fit in TNA. Dolph would finally get a chance in TNA to be a consistent main eventer, and not damaged goods that loses all the time.
Jeff Hardy for Jack Swagger. Pretty much the same thing here.
The Dudleys for Hunico and Sin Cara. WWE gets a big name tag team to rebuild their division with, TNA gets a couple of very talented wrestlers they can use to rebuild the X-Division.
Gunner for Justin Gabriel. WWE gets an intense, solid worker that's spinning his wheels in TNA. TNA gets another X-Division star (and another international athlete if they go for a World X Cup...) to rebuild their X-Divison with.
Kind of safe changes really. The only person who's really in a good spot right now that I actually moved was Bully Ray, but getting to finish their legacy in WWE and get into the Hall Of Fame would be great.
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Post by onestepplan on Jun 18, 2012 3:53:14 GMT -5
TNA and WWE each have an incredible amount of talent, but mixing them around still wouldn't fix the booking issues both have. That being said, I've found that TNA does a great job at fostering personalities, whereas WWE is more interested on getting guys over via ringwork, with that in mind and holding both companies on equal footing (i.e. not considering a move to TNA a demotion) I'd trade:
AJ Styles for Dolph Ziggler: Styles to WWE because even though he's the heart and soul of TNA, the guy honestly doesn't have much of a personality beyond being loyal and southern. Most of his overness is based on his in-ring ability, I think he'd do decent in the 'E and there's really nothing left for the guy in TNA anyway. Ziggler to TNA because while I think Ziggler is the best wrestler in WWE right now, I feel like the guy is also just brimming with personality and WWE's repetitive weekly match-ups and limited promo time for anyone who still wrestles more than five times a year are holding Ziggler back from being the star he really should be.
Eric Young for Johnny Curtis: Eric Young works sort of broad/doofy/easy comedy gimmicks that WWE seems very much in love with right now and he does them better than anyone else they have working comedy gimmicks right now. Johnny Curtis to TNA because TNA would absolutely put Dirty Curty on primetime television, gimmick intact, rather than burying him somewhere on the internet. On the off chance Curtis gets to real television in WWE, I'm pretty much positive there will be no discussion of getting weird or any grape vans to speak of, TNA would probably run with it.
Mike Tenay for Michael Cole: So Taz and Cole can re-team in TNA, those guys are obviously great friends and they worked a lot better with each other than they ever did separate. Tenay would finally give WWE the generally impartial (although skewing face) lead play-by-play guy they desperately need.
Bobby Roode for Randy Orton: Roode's super-arrogant, lucky cheater gimmick would go over very smooth in the WWE as that's one of the two heels they actually like to book these days. Orton's psycho gimmick could actually be done justice in TNA, rather than expressed solely in silly mat-pounding gestures.
Jeff Hardy for Christian: Captain Charisma hasn't been allowed to properly shine in the E since coming back from TNA and Hardy has that special silent charisma that allows him to very much draw viewers in like he did during his last run with the E. Both guys have been proven to thrive much better on the other side.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jun 18, 2012 4:07:46 GMT -5
Alex Riley for AJ Styles - Styles needs some place to start fresh, while Riley is underused in WWE. There's no place for Riley in WWE's stagnant midcard, but in TNA, Riley could go after the TV Title. Riley's unique, high energy flashy offense could possibly even make him a good fit for the X-Division.
Samoa Joe for John Cena - Not exactly equal, but both have "done it all" in there respective promotions.
Mason Ryan for D'Angelo Dinero/Elijah Burke - The one thing hurting Mason Ryan is his resemblance to Batista. He would do better in TNA, where he would not have such expectations to live up to. Plus Ryan and Rob Terry could form a Welsh tag team. Burke would be able to show WWE what they missed out on all this time.
Rey Mysterio for Kurt Angle: Rey could use the ligher schedule of TNA. While Angle needs the lighter schedule as well, he could easily get that in WWE as a special attraction type. Angle could get a deal where he works "more dates than Brock Lesnar, but less dates than Chris Jericho". While TNA thrives in "making stars" WWE could use Angle's star power.
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Post by celticjobber on Jun 18, 2012 4:19:01 GMT -5
Lawler for Tazz Kofi for Magnus
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Post by ICBM on Jun 18, 2012 5:00:01 GMT -5
Sting for Big Show and if you don't know why than I ask.how dare I call yourself a wrestling fan
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Jun 18, 2012 5:55:27 GMT -5
Cessaro for Magnus - I think Cessaro would be better suited and better used in TNA whereas Magnus just screams main eventer. If he moved to the WWE I reckon he could be in the top five stars within a couple of years.
Bourne for Eric Young - Eric I think would make a nice, midcard comedy guy in the WWE. Bourne is on two strikes already and I can't see him been any more than a jobber so he might as well go to TNA.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2012 7:13:46 GMT -5
Sting for Big Show and if you don't know why than I ask.how dare I call yourself a wrestling fan This, and Orton for Hogan. Orton is more suited for TNA, and Hogan belongs in the 'E.
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Post by Tiger Maskooo on Jun 18, 2012 7:43:45 GMT -5
The problem is equal is a subjective term. I basically think John Cena as a talent is kinda worthless and not really that big of a draw. So i'll probably not play this right in alot of peoples eyes.
Mark henry for Samoa Joe-These guys arent really equal because Samoa Joe has been over more recently than 1998 and he's athletic and fast paced while mark henry is basically like watching nursery home championship wrestling. As for why I would make this trade. I think that mark henry is old lumbering and boring and Samoa Joe is awesome. I wish no success for tna so mark can go there. Plus Samoa Joe has looked on the cusp of a mental breakdown for about 2 years now. He has the scars of a man whos seen too much tna. Him going to wwe wouldnt just be awesome it'd also complete operation save samoa joe. I now have an image of Jeremy Borash and Samoa Joe doing a tna version of lifetime suicides.
Kofi Kingston for Christopher Daniels-These two arent equal either because i've actually heard daniels get a reaction in his career. Also daniels didnt require being coached through a promo on live television. Why do this? Well kofi isnt over and wont ever be over. He's about right for the wrestling purgatory of TNA. And Daniels is the hero we need to stop all the handshaking going on in WWE.
Brodus Clay for Eric Young-Once again doubt theyre equal because brodus hasnt ever gotten a reaction from a live crowd and Eric can actually work. That's mostly why this trade should happen. I hate tna and wish for its imminent failure so what better talent to put there than someone who actively detracts from a wrestling product by existing. Eric is actually one of the best workers in tna but they dont let him wrestle much anymore sadly. Add that in with his natural speaking ability and he'd be awesome for WWE.
John Cena for AJ Styles-Why? I believe John Cena isnt really that big of a draw and that he drives people away from watching wrestling. AJ however can add alot to WWE.
Wade Barrett for Austin Aries-Wade Barrett is a good talker whos ring work looks like a recovering addict detoxing while playing jinga. He can go to tna and have matches with crimson for all I care. Austin Aries deserves to be in a big time company.
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Post by AdamAFL was sooooo wrong on Jun 18, 2012 9:12:01 GMT -5
To help both companies (in my eyes):
John Cena for AJ Styles - Both are the guys that are most synonymous with their companies. Styles would give WWE something fresh to push. Cena would drag the ratings up for TNA.
Randy Orton for Jeff Hardy - Current face Hardy is doing nothing for TNA except boring the life out of me. Orton in TNA would give them more star power and he could have a whole host of new people to feud with. WWE could resurrect what is left of Jeff's career.
Dolph Ziggler for Samoa Joe - Dolph going to TNA would earn him a successful push. Joe going in the other direction, if booked correctly could be something that WWE's never really seen before. If they booked him like TNA did during his undefeated streak he would look unreal.
Kurt Angle for Chris Jericho - I want Angle to have one more run in the 'E and I'd like to see what Jericho could do in TNA. This is pretty much a straight swap in my eyes since both guys are extremely talented at what they do.
Christian for Bully Ray - Christian was amazing in TNA and maybe it's just me trying to hold on to the days where I loved TNA but bringing him back might help lift some interest and show that he still is one of the very best. Ray has been completely rejuvenated in TNA, it would be interesting to see how he would perform if WWE were to given him another singles push.
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Post by clashofchampains on Jun 18, 2012 10:50:30 GMT -5
The one trade that would be fair for everyone would be:
Sting for Randy Orton - Two Top guys that means a lot to their company. But in both situations it's time to move on. Sting of course you throw him against Taker in a good build. Orton would bring an x-factor that TNA doesn't have. You either throw him against champ Bobby Roode as face or you have him take on James Storm once he beat Bobby Roode.
As for those that mention in Cena in trades: forget it. TNA fans don't like that kind of wrestler. It's like Jarrett heat mixed with Crimson/Garrett/Brooke rolled into one.
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Post by clashofchampains on Jun 18, 2012 10:55:09 GMT -5
The problem is equal is a subjective term. I basically think John Cena as a talent is kinda worthless and not really that big of a draw. So i'll probably not play this right in alot of peoples eyes. Mark henry for Samoa Joe-These guys arent really equal because Samoa Joe has been over more recently than 1998 and he's athletic and fast paced while mark henry is basically like watching nursery home championship wrestling. As for why I would make this trade. I think that mark henry is old lumbering and boring and Samoa Joe is awesome. I wish no success for tna so mark can go there. Plus Samoa Joe has looked on the cusp of a mental breakdown for about 2 years now. He has the scars of a man whos seen too much tna. Him going to wwe wouldnt just be awesome it'd also complete operation save samoa joe. I now have an image of Jeremy Borash and Samoa Joe doing a tna version of lifetime suicides. Kofi Kingston for Christopher Daniels-These two arent equal either because i've actually heard daniels get a reaction in his career. Also daniels didnt require being coached through a promo on live television. Why do this? Well kofi isnt over and wont ever be over. He's about right for the wrestling purgatory of TNA. And Daniels is the hero we need to stop all the handshaking going on in WWE. Brodus Clay for Eric Young-Once again doubt theyre equal because brodus hasnt ever gotten a reaction from a live crowd and Eric can actually work. That's mostly why this trade should happen. I hate tna and wish for its imminent failure so what better talent to put there than someone who actively detracts from a wrestling product by existing. Eric is actually one of the best workers in tna but they dont let him wrestle much anymore sadly. Add that in with his natural speaking ability and he'd be awesome for WWE. John Cena for AJ Styles-Why? I believe John Cena isnt really that big of a draw and that he drives people away from watching wrestling. AJ however can add alot to WWE. Wade Barrett for Austin Aries-Wade Barrett is a good talker whos ring work looks like a recovering addict detoxing while playing jinga. He can go to tna and have matches with crimson for all I care. Austin Aries deserves to be in a big time company. TNA lose Samoa Joe, Chris Daniels, Eric Young, AJ Styles and Austin Aries for Cena, Mark Henry, Clay and Barrett? You want TNA to die/or suck? And they already had Kingston types before with Jay Lethal and Consequences Creed and they let them go.
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Post by Tiger Maskooo on Jun 18, 2012 11:10:17 GMT -5
I'm divided on it. I did really enjoy the recent ppv and the impact last week. I do sense a upswing of quality. I'm giving it another chance. I enjoyed those shows more than I enjoyed a wwe show with the exception of the miami raw and actually no way out this weekend in a while.
But I've been here. Seen this dance. Doesn't last. May go six months even but it'll go back. It's wrestling purgatory. It's always steps foward then ten steps back.
I honestly sometimes feel that it's death would help wrestling because maybe a better promotion would form out of its ashes.
I just can't help but feel still that tna isnt important. And that i'd like all of those unimportant people go to an unimportant place.
But i'm giving it another chance.
Also jay lethal is nothing like kofi kingston. He could cut promos and got reactions. I'll give you consequences creed though. Holy shit that dude was bland.
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