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Post by Head Detective Aaron Enigma on Aug 4, 2012 22:00:10 GMT -5
I will write the TV title match.
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Post by Jazzman on Aug 4, 2012 22:42:35 GMT -5
Seth did you get my PM?
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Aug 4, 2012 22:55:12 GMT -5
Yes I did.............I asked Jeremy to start off since he is the boss character now so he can oversee this.
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Post by Jazzman on Aug 4, 2012 23:07:58 GMT -5
Yes I did.............I asked Jeremy to start off since he is the boss character now so he can oversee this. Ah, well that makes sense and was good foresight on your part.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Aug 5, 2012 1:00:12 GMT -5
Its a no-go with Jeremy because he has something already going on that makes him unable to be there when this occurs so I will write the first part and have to you by Sunday night.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Aug 5, 2012 2:07:11 GMT -5
I'm glad to see people gearing up for Gookermania V starting with week one. We get seven until theweek of the show, so every ounce of effort we put into the build counts. Bring your A+ games everyone. You'll be glad you did by the end.
My personal hope is that we produce our best show of all time up to this point. While on that subject, which supercard shows do FAWA members consider the best since Viva and I took the reigns? Furthermore, could you share why you think so? I think this could lend insight into when we are at our collective best.
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Post by Mr. Socko's Brother on Aug 5, 2012 6:11:31 GMT -5
I just finished getting all caught up, posted in the promo thread, and I think that when the next Gooker Awards roll around that the BattleBowl match should be on the ballot for MOTY.
I mentioned the FA title and how it's defended in the promo I just posted, and while I was doing that IC'ly to stick up for Square, OOC'ly I feel like there is a problem with it.
When it was still being worked out exactly how the title would be defended, the "shaking hands/not shaking hands" thing was part of it from the beginning. I thought that was a good idea, but felt at the time like more needed to be done to make sure the FA title was as much like the Championship of Honor as it was about the Hardcore Championship. I think the COH holds kind of a special place in my heart because it was the first singles title Blood held, not to mention the first one he really feuded over (with Evil M, shortly after he joined the fed).
When it ended and when some of my suggestions were accepted, I thought that the FAC would go one of three ways:
1. If both wrestlers shake hands, it's a Rules Of Honor match similar to how the Championship Of Honor was defended. Here's Michael Muffer describing what I'm pretty sure is the last version of the Rules Of Honor:
2. If neither wrestler is willing to shake hands with the other, the match is contested under hardcore rules, meaning no rules.
3. If "some" contestants shake hands (or, in matches with only two people, if one wants to shake hands but the other doesn't), then it becomes a hybrid of Rules Of Honor and Hardcore, with Rules Of Honor applying inside the ring and it being no DQ and falls count anywhere outside of the ring. I figured that in order to make it easier for the fight to go into or out of the ring (depending on where the wrestler in control wanted to take it), we could say that the rules against tossing somebody over the top rope, about fighting outside the ring, and about there being countouts don't apply in this case.
That's how I thought it was supposed to work, but either due to miscommunication or people wanting to do it a different way, it's gradually become "If there's no handshake, it's a hardcore match."
I think that this is a mistake, for two reasons.
One, instead of giving both wrestlers the chance to "vote" on what kind of match they want to wrestle, the guy who wants to shake hands and wrestle under Rules Of Honor only gets what he wants if the other guy also wants it. Otherwise it's a hardcore match. So story-wise, this is always unfair to the non-hardcore-match-wanting guy.
Two, the result of this has been that almost all of the FA title defenses have been hardcore matches. I could only remember one time when it was defended under Rules Of Honor, which was when Viva defended it against Connor. Looking at the history I see there was also another time, which was the defense right before that, Viva vs. Bergman. But the last three matches have been hardcore matches, and if this keeps up I feel like we might as well just call this the Hardcore Championship, because that's what it's become.
I really want the COH to continue to exist in spirit as half of the FAC, and the way the FAC is currently defended, it doesn't. It's as if the title held by Seth, Bergman, Jono, Evil M, Brian Alexander, Richlen, Blood, Mackenzie, and Viva has been retired instead of merged with another and renamed.
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Post by Connor Mackenzie on Aug 5, 2012 7:56:11 GMT -5
I can understand Socko's reasoning in regards to the FAC as well. Personally, I like the idea that if one goes to shake hands but the other doesn't then you get a hybrid match. It certainly would allow for the legacy of both belts to shine through (and as a the CoH was Connor's first single's title as well I fell the same as you Socko. )
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Aug 5, 2012 8:29:53 GMT -5
Personally I think I never really liked the whole "rules of honor" concept to begin with. Primarily it was due to the fact that in an extremely heated rivalry like the one last year between myself and Blood or what was supposed to happen between Viva and myself, the odds that you'd actually get the two sides to shake hands was unlikely anyway and it seemed pointless to force them into a "civilized" match when there really was no way to actually keep it that way.
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Post by Connor Mackenzie on Aug 5, 2012 10:51:34 GMT -5
If need be I think I could write the FA #1 contenders match and commentary since it's a long weekend here (half day at work for me). Of course any input Seth wanted to add as far as spots, etc. I would be open to receive.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Aug 5, 2012 12:10:22 GMT -5
As far as the FA title goes, I originally wanted to just merge Honor and Hardcore rules into a hybrid. Simplifies things to me.
That said, unless I can read it in the promos, I make a point to ask contestants if they want their characters to shake hands. Every match I wrote is based on that.
So really, the FAT is characterized by its contestants. It began in an Honor Phase and now it is in a Hardcore phase. It need not have phases, but I don't see anything wrong with the presence of such. I think it is reflective of the spirit of the times.
Looking at the title's history, it was defended under Rules of Honor twice and Hardcore rules three times. The WoM match was a special stipulation match and doesn't count for either. So I don't think it is too late to shift things.
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Aug 5, 2012 18:11:30 GMT -5
VOTING CLOSED!!!
Counting votes now.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Aug 5, 2012 18:59:45 GMT -5
TuesdayExhibition Match Loading Rules versus Mario NettMatch: Commentary: WednesdayFreakin' Awesome Title #1 Contender Match Connor Mackenzie versus Seth DrakinMatch: Connor Mackenzie Commentary: Connor Mackenzie ThursdayTV Title Match Bull Ant versus Jonathan MichaelsMatch: Aaron Enigma Commentary: Aaron Enigma
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Aug 6, 2012 14:55:12 GMT -5
How are matches coming along? If you have promos, squashes, etc get them in. Eight weeks until Gookermania; make every week count.
Also, an update on that "Celebrity Match": I brought it up with Demented and he is interested. Nothing guaranteed yet, but we are discussing it over PMs.
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Post by The Punisher on Aug 6, 2012 15:14:48 GMT -5
On the FAT subject, as it's an amalgam of the Hardcore and Honour Titles, you could have different rules applying to different defences. For example the CEO could make an announcement ahead of the match which rules it would be contested under, but for real unpredictability, you could have the ref flip a coin before the match and then the rules would be decided on there and then.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Aug 7, 2012 0:41:14 GMT -5
1. I still think that something as simple as "Honor in the ring, Hardcore out of ring" is all the title needed to be.
2. It looks like this "Demented at Gookermania" match is going to happen. That said, I have the idea that he hosts a future Niteraw to get this started. I am willing to be the man involved in that match, and he aims to go for either a Tyson or a Lauper kind of involvement in the match.
I'm all ears for suggestions towards the match and the buildup.
Right now, I think a weekly series of kayfabe exchanges elsewhere on these boards is the thing to try. Risky to be sure, as I can see the Mods quickly telling us to keep it in the Forum Games section, but I'm going to try until I am informed otherwise.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Aug 7, 2012 0:46:47 GMT -5
Also, something I'd like to request of all members: if you don't already, and if you are able, I humbly ask if you could put something that refers to the FAWA or Gookermania in your signature. I think the more members that do this, the more attention the FAWA will get, thus new and more members.
If you promote the FAWA, I can provide the image code for the banner in my sig (Viva designed it specifically for sigs after all). There is something to be said for uniformity.
If you promote Gookermania, perhaps also promote one of the announced matches on the card for the sake of hype. It makes things more interesting.
Last, I want to warn everyone that depending on how things happen, there could be upwards of 9+ matches for Gookermania V. Be ready to write please.
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Post by Jazzman on Aug 7, 2012 0:48:10 GMT -5
1. I still think that something as simple as "Honor in the ring, Hardcore out of ring" is all the title needed to be. 2. It looks like this "Demented at Gookermania" match is going to happen. That said, I have the idea that he hosts a future Niteraw to get this started. I am willing to be the man involved in that match, and he aims to go for either a Tyson or a Lauper kind of involvement in the match. I'm all ears for suggestions towards the match and the buildup. Right now, I think a weekly series of kayfabe exchanges elsewhere on these boards is the thing to try. Risky to be sure, as I can see the Mods quickly telling us to keep it in the Forum Games section, but I'm going to try until I am informed otherwise. I think the good news is that you could call him out in a Madness thread and the mods may not be the worse for wear on what's really going on. Also, an update on mine and Seth's contract signing. It is nearly complete, just waiting to tie up a loose end or two on it.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Aug 7, 2012 3:47:39 GMT -5
Okay, I'm FINALLY getting serious about this, and almost have a bio complete(just need my entrance stuff and one finish name to go), and I just have to ask, is this the place to post the bio/do I just.....jump into the promo thread, or what?
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Post by Connor Mackenzie on Aug 7, 2012 6:04:53 GMT -5
Okay, I'm FINALLY getting serious about this, and almost have a bio complete(just need my entrance stuff and one finish name to go), and I just have to ask, is this the place to post the bio/do I just.....jump into the promo thread, or what? Woo! Another enteres the fold! Actually we've got a profile thread for that. It's just sadly moved to page 2 but here is the link to the last page. officialfan.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=forumgames&action=display&thread=340715&page=7
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