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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2012 23:26:15 GMT -5
Here is a guy that was an enigma in WWE. Unlike other ones like Jeff Hardy, he never won the big one.
But if there was ever a guy that had so much in front of him and was so close to being a star but due to a bunch of circumstances didn't.
Here's his good rap list:
Hyped Debut Unique Entrance and Mic Work United States Champion 2007 MITB Winner Had major feud with Undertaker and HBK
Bad wrap list:
Injured multiple times at the worst possible time Only wrestler to drop the MITB to another wrestler before cashing in Last matches in WWE with Guererro and Lashley that ended in injury Sloppy worker injuring notable top stars such as Cena, Orton, HBK On signature pharmacy list Loses storyline of being Vince McMahon's son
Clearly WWE had plans with this guy, but man oh man, does anyone have this wrap sheet in WWE history?
So much was in store, and so much was screwed up for him.
I don't think you could name a wrestler who had TWO SHOTS to be a superstar main eventer with MITB AND being McMahon's son, only to lose both chances and he never recovered while making political enemies backstage left and right.
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Post by chazraps on Jul 29, 2012 23:31:29 GMT -5
Bad luck. He was too entertaining and had too many entertaining performances for me to call him a bad worker.
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Post by siredger on Jul 29, 2012 23:32:40 GMT -5
Bad luck, certainly. Bad worker, although he had his share of screwups with WWE's higher brass, I would qualify him more like a wrestler "whose potential didn't quite developed as expected", if I can use that term. I really think he had a bad wrap with the wrong people; if that happened with midcarders, it wouldn't have been that big a deal in my book.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Jul 29, 2012 23:33:06 GMT -5
A weird situation where bad luck turned him INTO a bad worker. Dude spent so much time on the sidelines, and it's like his skill degraded by the end of his run, compared to when he first came in and was having awesome matches. Or, maybe it wasn't him sucking, so much as all the time on the sidelines draining his motivation to give a damn to put out his best performance. Either way...
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Post by Juice on Jul 29, 2012 23:33:54 GMT -5
A lot of people call him a bad worker, but I remember these boards blew up when he was released and that began the height of the Orton hate I think. I always liked Kennedy.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jul 29, 2012 23:36:30 GMT -5
He's not a terrible worker but boy, did he have shit luck.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2012 23:37:22 GMT -5
I wonder what would've made him the bigger star though.
MITB or McMahon's son?
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Post by Heartbreaker on Jul 29, 2012 23:39:15 GMT -5
He's the Bad Luck Brian of wrestling.
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Post by Massive G on Jul 29, 2012 23:39:50 GMT -5
his biggest accomplishment and trait of most renown is that he screams into hanging microphone.
I'm sure there's a bit of bad luck in his case, but he sucks, always has, and always will.
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Post by Juice on Jul 29, 2012 23:43:08 GMT -5
He definitely doesn't seen like he would be able to be a huge star though. Like his inability to reinvent himself in tna beyond the asshole thing is proof of that.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Jul 29, 2012 23:47:16 GMT -5
Both? I would have said bad luck before seeing his TNA run but after it he really cannot do much outside of the mic drop bit.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Jul 29, 2012 23:49:24 GMT -5
I think it was bad luck for the most part. In TNA now though, I feel he's just coasting off of an established gimmick, unlike guys like Bully Ray, Joseph Park and Christopher Daniels. So maybe he would look better in TNA if a chunk of the roster wasn't stepping their game up.
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Post by bob on Jul 30, 2012 0:01:36 GMT -5
bad luck...............luck
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Post by mystikz on Jul 30, 2012 0:48:46 GMT -5
eh if he had stuck around his schtick would have gotten old, and we'd be sick of him. really who cares about him in TNA?
I used to like the guy, but it became easy to dislike him. he had bad luck, but he got cut for a reason. he became a screw up that nobody wanted to work with.
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Post by celticjobber on Jul 30, 2012 0:50:47 GMT -5
He's one of those guys who just always made me want to turn the channel, and he's only gotten more unbearable since joining TNA.
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Post by Ecks Ecks Ringout Ecks Ecks on Jul 30, 2012 0:58:25 GMT -5
Bad luck, mediocre talent. I was pretty "meh" about the guy during his WWE run, and when he landed in TNA and got his chance to rise without the supposed glass ceiling in the way, he didn't do much to change my mind.
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Post by mizerable on Jul 30, 2012 1:04:22 GMT -5
Not so much bad luck as he ran his mouth at the worst possible times to run it. I remember once he started bashing Billy Graham, I just wanted to see him fail. Fortunately, he failed a drug test just weeks later, idiot.
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Post by froggyfrog on Jul 30, 2012 1:12:19 GMT -5
Bad luck. I was a big fan of him when he debuted. Loved his unique entrance. He's alright in TNA atm, but its a shame he never reached his potential in the WWE
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2012 1:59:29 GMT -5
Bad luck.
He was a solid wrestler in the WWE who had insane charisma, the constant injuries and other incidents (pharmacy scandal/higher up politics etc) cost him his guaranteed future consistent main eventer spot.
Then he went to TNA. Came in as an amazing heel, had a great series with Angle, got yo-yo booked, but still had that charisma. Plus he's still pretty good in the ring, maybe a little more inconsistent but he's not Matt Morgan levels of dissapointing six days of the week, decent on Tuesday y'know?
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Post by Emmet Russell on Jul 30, 2012 2:14:13 GMT -5
He's a combination of both. He was a great entertainer and gimmick and that caused a lot of people to overlook his lack of in-ring talent. Once his bad luck started and he lost momentum, it was clear he couldn't work.
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