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Post by The Spelunker! on Jul 30, 2012 3:15:07 GMT -5
Clearly bad luck.
The guy has had more than a few entertaining matches and gets crowd reaction.
Doesn't help though, that's he's pretty much the Dane Cook of Wrestling.
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Post by The OP on Jul 30, 2012 9:41:19 GMT -5
He's never really gotten over the way he was supposed to. He didn't make it far enough in WWE, and when he got to TNA he was huge for a while but people got tired of his act. I was one of the people who saw long term main event potential in him, but in hindsight I think I was wrong. There was even talk of the potential of him being the next to reach a Rock/Austin or at least a Cena level, but people still clamor to see Rock and Austin, they didn't get tired of them in a few years.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2012 10:26:20 GMT -5
His TNA feud with Kurt Angle in 2010, from beginning to end, was excellent. The blow-off Lockdown cage match was brutal too (in a good way). He can go with the right opponent/foil, but I'm not familiar with his WWE stuff, and his TNA stuff lately has been pretty bad. Maybe Angle just got the best out of Ken, but that had me thinking Anderson was on the cusp. Now? He is pretty much done as a star. He is what he is.
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Post by MGH on Jul 30, 2012 10:27:32 GMT -5
Bad luck, average talent. I like him well enough in TNA, but he hasn't ever even grazed the level some people thought he could reach.
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Post by austinariesfan88 on Jul 30, 2012 10:30:59 GMT -5
I voted bad worker, I saw nothing good with Kennedy when it came to ring work, he was meh and average to me.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Jul 30, 2012 10:35:22 GMT -5
a bit of both, but I'm inclined to believe more that he's a bad worker. he's average at best in the ring and 7 years later he's still doing the same shit and hasn't evolved at all. if he were still in WWE we'd all be talking about how boring he is. injuring everyone he worked with doesn't help, either.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Jul 30, 2012 10:46:11 GMT -5
Even if you think he's a bad worker, you have to admit there was bad luck when he was injured and the injury was misdiagnosed leading them to take Money in the Bank off of him.
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Post by bigtitan on Jul 30, 2012 10:50:03 GMT -5
He is just bad.
Seriously, how stale has this guy been... for years. When he talks, all he does in drone on and on. Face, heel, it doesn't matter. The whole mic gimmick got stale when he was in the WWE... and how long ago was that. The double name spot got boring years ago. His whole act is just lame. To top it all of, he now has a pot belly.
Plus all this "asshole" stuff has never really caught on, has it. It's stupid, crude and largely ignored by everybody.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jul 30, 2012 10:52:37 GMT -5
Bad luck, formely solid worker that de-evolved. I was really high on the guy when he first made TV and I thought he had a legit shot at main eventing one day, but it seems like all the mishaps he suffered took the wind out of his sails as a performer. And here he is now with a haircut that doesn't suit him doing lukewarm Austin routines.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jul 30, 2012 10:53:33 GMT -5
A weird situation where bad luck turned him INTO a bad worker. Dude spent so much time on the sidelines, and it's like his skill degraded by the end of his run, compared to when he first came in and was having awesome matches. Or, maybe it wasn't him sucking, so much as all the time on the sidelines draining his motivation to give a damn to put out his best performance. Either way...
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Post by Milk Toast Face on Jul 30, 2012 10:56:43 GMT -5
Bad worker. I don't think he was unlucky because all he ever had was yelling his name into a microphone. He was lucky that he was ever considered a potential top guy...
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jul 30, 2012 11:02:42 GMT -5
Both. Was an OK worker until Bad Luck led to demotivation which caused him to regress into a bad worker.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Jul 30, 2012 12:09:06 GMT -5
Here's his good rap list: Hyped Debut Unique Entrance and Mic Work United States Champion 2007 MITB Winner One question, Hyped Debut? Not that I can recall. I remember seeing him on Velocity as Mr. Anderson doing the whole mic bit, then he shows up on Smackdown as Anderson or Kennedy. But either way no vignettes or anything. He just showed up doing his thing. How was he hyped?
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Jul 30, 2012 12:28:16 GMT -5
Another thing about Kennedy's bad luck is that everyone around him reacted to his bad luck like a bunch of babies. I'm not jsut talking about Orton: McMahon and company threw a petulant little fit about him during the "Who's Vince's son?" angle, when the whole thing would have been salvagable if they'd just kept their tempers in check and had a little flexibility. And the MitB thing.... are we all just numbed to the fact that an entertainment business sees itself as perfectly in the right to be angry at a performer and subtly and snidely punish him for the terrible sin of getting injured?
No argument about the CNN thing: that was very dumb. But it just bugs me that stupid backstage stuff derails planned angles. Just be professionals and tell the story you want to tell.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jul 30, 2012 14:47:03 GMT -5
Another thing about Kennedy's bad luck is that everyone around him reacted to his bad luck like a bunch of babies. I'm not jsut talking about Orton: McMahon and company threw a petulant little fit about him during the "Who's Vince's son?" angle, when the whole thing would have been salvagable if they'd just kept their tempers in check and had a little flexibility. And the MitB thing.... are we all just numbed to the fact that an entertainment business sees itself as perfectly in the right to be angry at a performer and subtly and snidely punish him for the terrible sin of getting injured? No argument about the CNN thing: that was very dumb. But it just bugs me that stupid backstage stuff derails planned angles. Just be professionals and tell the story you want to tell. Let's not forget him letting Hardcore Holly take the fall for his own bullshit.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Jul 30, 2012 15:03:11 GMT -5
Bad luck. Bad talent. WORST TATTOOS IN WRESTLING HISTORY.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jul 30, 2012 18:31:42 GMT -5
bad luck in WWE. Some due to injuries, some due to him being an idiot.
TNA? Bad talent. Dude came in hot as a heel, slowed down when he went face, then gained momentum with his concussion ironically enough. After that, he was victim of poor booking, but as mentioned, since he returned he's had to deal with other guys just being more entertaining than him. Guys like Aries, Roode, Storm, Joseph Parks, Bully, Daniels, Sting (who has reinvented himself), Joe, Magnus, AJ, Angle, and to a lesser extent Zema Ion have all stepped up to the point guys like Anderson, RVD, and a lesser extent Jeff Hardy don't get the hype they did last year.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2012 18:38:27 GMT -5
I will never in a million years understand the love that this guy used to get when he was in the E. Just an outright terrible performer in every facet of wrestling.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 30, 2012 21:11:45 GMT -5
More bad luck early on/he was snake bit more than a few times when it looked like he was gaining traction; but since then? In the past say three-four years, he's not only not improved or developed, he's seemingly actively regressed.
So bad luck initially, to now him just being bad.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2012 21:21:41 GMT -5
Here's his good rap list: Hyped Debut Unique Entrance and Mic Work United States Champion 2007 MITB Winner One question, Hyped Debut? Not that I can recall. I remember seeing him on Velocity as Mr. Anderson doing the whole mic bit, then he shows up on Smackdown as Anderson or Kennedy. But either way no vignettes or anything. He just showed up doing his thing. How was he hyped? He wasn't brought in as a top guy, you're right. I remember watching Velocity with my brother at the time and Kennedy managed to get himself over with the mic gimmick and his sheer arrogance, plus the top rope Green Bay Plunge was a great finisher. Sure the company may have had plans for him to be a big deal back then but he was just another midcard guy up until the 'I've beaten x ex-World Champions' gimmick came along.
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