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Post by pegasuswarrior on Aug 29, 2012 16:06:37 GMT -5
Daime's unvote may not mean as much as Gus's would. I really think Mafia needs his vote so their framing is justified. And I think they were planning on playing their other trump on getting Daime eliminated via the vote. Of course, even by mentioning that plan, I may have undermined it and initiated a change in their littlr camp. But I figure it better to state said theory than to sit around, let it play out, and then feel "right" about it while all three townspeople would be eliminated from the game with no voice whatsoever. Would do no good then. So I say all that to see who'll buy in to my reasoning about SNS as one of the scum agreeing upon said plan.
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Post by Big Bad Brad on Aug 29, 2012 16:18:47 GMT -5
I'm confused about what to do I mean Daime unvoted Peg which could be a ploy to take the heat off him and Peg claiming SnS as Mafia is kind of odd so Peg is still suspicious to me but I'm going to still give him the benefit of the doubt.
For now I'm just going to stick with my vote on Daime but I could be persuaded to change things up.
Between Daime, Gus & Peg I'm pretty confident that at least one of those three are mafia just which one or which ones.
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Post by daime on Aug 29, 2012 16:27:55 GMT -5
I admit that I was far too focused on Peg and his list. Him and ritt are the only leads I got for this specific day phase. The good news is, I have until Friday night to come up with another probable lead.
I do agree with Peg on one thing though. I love how everyone shifted attention to me once I voted him and not Gus. That's pretty telling to me. I can almost guarantee that one of the people who voted for me was a mafia trying to keep the heat off SOMEONE.
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Gus Richlen Was Wrong
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Aug 29, 2012 16:40:16 GMT -5
Daime's unvote may not mean as much as Gus's would. I really think Mafia needs his vote so their framing is justified. And I think they were planning on playing their other trump on getting Daime eliminated via the vote. Of course, even by mentioning that plan, I may have undermined it and initiated a change in their littlr camp. But I figure it better to state said theory than to sit around, let it play out, and then feel "right" about it while all three townspeople would be eliminated from the game with no voice whatsoever. Would do no good then. So I say all that to see who'll buy in to my reasoning about SNS as one of the scum agreeing upon said plan. If I'm right about you being Mafia, and I'm almost as certain about that as about M and Latino being Mafia, then me unvoting would not be in the Town's best interest because I'd be taking pressure off them. Unless, that is, I went right after the person I am 100% is the godfather. Unvote
Vote: Evil MI don't think it's a coincidence that you made a baseless vote against me, only for Latino to jump to your defense when I called you out on it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2012 16:54:03 GMT -5
I honestly don't know what to think at this point. Since nobody gave me a summary of what's happened lately (jerks), I read through the thread. This game has thrown me for a complete loop seeing that we had some power roles taken out, and a lot of the stuff Peg has said has me feeling confused. (DAT LIST)
-The thing about me though, is that from the Mafia games I've been in with him, I know Peg is a mixed bag of a player. He really hounds people and gets results, but he pushes nearly everybody and can alienate fellow Townies. He splinters the group, but does a lot of good as well. So you have to take the good and the bad with him.
As of now, he hasn't done anything to really spark my Spidey Senses yet, and if he's Town, I really don't want to risk losing him this early.
-There are a few people I feel pretty solid about then being Town. Brad is almost 100% Town in my book.
-I'm feeling a little bit behind the eight ball right now, as I'm just finding out the stuff that everyone else has known for days. You guys should know that I'm not the type to watch and observe, so hopefully I can analyze what I've seen and get myself re-asserted in the discussion.
-I think you guys really effed up when you lynched knailsic, but that's probably my fault for not being around at the time to voice my opinion while it was going down.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Aug 29, 2012 17:22:31 GMT -5
So you have to take the good and the bad with him You take the good, and the bad and there you have... The Facts of Life! Daime and Gus not unvoting for Peg until prodded to makes me feel that they are both mafia. I'm pretty interested in what Notorious has to say, as he can be a big help, and I agree that we as a town made a mistake with a lynch. I got caught up in the moment with knailistic, and it was wrong of me to vote for him. And at first, I felt that amongst the voters, we would have at least 2 mafia in their. But my theory is that the mafia DIDN'T vote outwardly; they allowed us to vote off our own, as they placed votes on others... just to plant the seed for the next day phase. Which they tried to turn the town against pegasus, and are only now backing off since they weren't able to convince the rest of us to go along with their plan. Now that pegasus is out and out not mafia, and with a deadline looming overhead, I feel that they are scrambling to grab onto whomever they can. I smell desperation, and with desperation, I feel that we can gain the upper hand. Now that I feel I pegged two of the mafia guys with a few days left, I figure why not try to uncover the rest these pigs? I don't have a read on SNS yet... I agree with his theories, but I also don't understand him and pegasus butting heads. That has me confused, yet interested.
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Post by MrBRulzOK on Aug 29, 2012 17:34:41 GMT -5
Yeah, lynching knailsic was a bad move in hindsight. But to be fair since he hadn't done anything there was a chance he was mafia. We had absolutely nothing to judge him as either good or bad. It was a shot in the dark, but it was one that we at least took. True, it didn't pay off, but imagine if he had been something like part of the mafia or even a serial killer.
We had to start somewhere and unfortunately we started off on the wrong foot. It's rare that you get lucky on the first day, but it's usually better to take a chance then to sit back and give a mafia a free day.
For now I'd like to hear more theories about what we should do. Perhaps Hawkeye could give his take on things? Or Spiked Mohican if he's still around?
Regarding the latter I went back and noticed that he only made two posts: one that was basically a joke post and another which served as little more than an explanation for why he hadn't been around. (that he was busy and he would return in two days or so.) Yet more than two days have passed and he still hasn't shown himself.
I still can't help but wonder why that is.
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Post by daime on Aug 29, 2012 17:36:18 GMT -5
Daime and Gus not unvoting for Peg until prodded to makes me feel that they are both mafia. I kept my vote on Peg because, unlike the rest of you guys, I'm not entirely sold on him being a townie. I have that right to vote how I see fit. I realize we all need to be on the same page but with everyone all going in one fluid direction, mistakes happen, Like knailsic's lynch. By keeping up on my suspicions, who knows, I could still be on the right track there for not trusting Peg and ritt. I removed my vote, not because I was prodded, but because we're nearing the deadline and something needs to be done. All we're doing is going round and round. One moment we're all up Peg's ass for his list. The next, the town's backlashing on me for trying to force him to reveal his list. I get it, Peg's "innocent" because of his past. Do we really need to bring that up in every game? Let's think about my past. In the music mafia, I was mafia but none of you guys pegged me for it until the last day. Now in Phoenix Wright, I'm a townie and I was following up on Hawkeye, wrongly I might add because I didn't know Notorious investigated him but it was something. Nobody else had anything that day phase. Now, I'm just trying to help you guys out like I did in Phoenix Wright because nobody can get a solid theory going. My lead produced the most results so far. Even at the cost of making me look suspicious. So with that, let's think. We got these leads to follow. - The list of those who voted for knailsic's lynch.
- Peg's list and ritt's defense of him anytime something comes up.
- Gus and Latino Meat's repeated swipes at one another.
Finally, something I think we all over looked even though we're pretty sure he's a townie.
- Brad was the one who pushed for knailsic's lynch. A mistake in the end. No one's ripping him apart for his mistake so why rip me apart for trying to make sense of what Peg's doing?
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Gus Richlen Was Wrong
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Aug 29, 2012 17:48:55 GMT -5
I didn't drop my vote because I was "prodded." I did it because I'm confident that we can catch a bigger Mafia fish.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Aug 29, 2012 18:03:36 GMT -5
Honestly, Daime dropping his vote IS a bit suspicious. Especially after he said that he was sticking by his vote multiple times. Seems to me like you were trying to everybody to gang up on Peg and dropped when it became obvious that people weren't falling in line.
As for Gus... I don't know. I just get an...odd feeling about you. You're quick to accuse others, you claim that you know who mafia members are but then proceed to drop your vote on them, which comes off as you being really indecisive. I just feel like you having something to hide. If you vote for someone, stick with it. And, yes, your vote against M on day 1 SCREAMS retaliatory vote to me. That's not helpful, even if you aren't mafia (which, to be fair, it is entirely possible that you aren't). So...
FOS: Gus Vote: Daime
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Aug 29, 2012 18:10:09 GMT -5
In what way does my vote just SCREAM retaliation vote? If anything, M and Latino's votes would fit that label better along with being paranoia votes.
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Post by daime on Aug 29, 2012 18:15:43 GMT -5
Sigh, I love how everything I say is falling on deaf ears.
I know how Double H feels now when he tries to explain himself only for it to fall on deaf ears.
I'm bowing out, lynch me, it'll solve none of your guys problems.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Aug 29, 2012 18:16:19 GMT -5
In what way does my vote just SCREAM retaliation vote? If anything, M and Latino's votes would fit that label better along with being paranoia votes. The fact that you voted for M IMMEDIATELY after he voted for you. No FOS, you just went straight to a vote. Again, not saying that you are definitely mafia, just saying that comes off as a bit suspicious to me and unhelpful.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Aug 29, 2012 18:18:35 GMT -5
I feel it's worth mentioning that I think it's entirely possible that Latino Meat and M very well could be mafia. Bit too early to tell at this point.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Aug 29, 2012 18:19:55 GMT -5
Sigh, I love how everything I say is falling on deaf ears. I know how Double H feels now when he tries to explain himself only for it to fall on deaf ears. I'm bowing out, lynch me, it'll solve none of your guys problems. For the record I an absolutely certain that you are Town.
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Post by daime on Aug 29, 2012 18:22:54 GMT -5
I appreciate the sentiment Gus but there's no swaying the town once they're set on lynching someone.
You should give up on trying to explain yourself, if it wasn't me, they'd be trying to lynch you. You know how these things work.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Aug 29, 2012 18:34:29 GMT -5
I appreciate the sentiment Gus but there's no swaying the town once they're set on lynching someone. You should give up on trying to explain yourself, if it wasn't me, they'd be trying to lynch you. You know how these things work. Dude, the Mafia doesn't have a unified vote movement goin on either of us. And if it WAS certain that you'd be lynched, which it isn't, GO DOWN SWINGING! Who knows? You might able to wreck the Mafia in the process.
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Post by daime on Aug 29, 2012 18:37:56 GMT -5
I fail to see the point when everybody's continuing to vote for me despite the fact that I've explained myself the entire way. It's really ironic that all the people voting for me right now are turning a blind eye to me and keeping their votes on me.
However, when Peg posts his list, he's immune to suspicious. It's ridiculous.
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Post by daime on Aug 29, 2012 18:38:14 GMT -5
EBWOP: Suspicious is supposed to be Suspicions.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2012 18:42:23 GMT -5
Sigh, I love how everything I say is falling on deaf ears. I know how Double H feels now when he tries to explain himself only for it to fall on deaf ears. I'm bowing out, lynch me, it'll solve none of your guys problems. Posts like this really annoy me. The "go ahead and lynch me" is such a cop out. If you're Town, you just need to find a way to convince people you're Town. It's an uphill battle, but a good Townie would find a way out of it.
Giving up easily is super lame.
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