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Post by Nic Nemeth on Aug 7, 2012 2:29:00 GMT -5
TBH, this should have never been on RAW.
This had PPV-level quality.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Aug 7, 2012 2:32:33 GMT -5
TBH, this should have never been on RAW. This had PPV-level quality. It's the Eric Bischoff Effect. Sacrifice a PPV quality match to boost ratings.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Aug 7, 2012 3:58:34 GMT -5
It was a pretty good match, though I must admit that I was a little disappointed at the ending. In short, the wrong guy won. They both looked great and it is hard for fans of Bryan to complain that he did not look like he belonged, but they need to be a little careful in how they handle him. Cena taking a loss doesn't hurt him, but it would have allowed for them to better progress the Bryan storyline without him losing too much credibility.
In short, in order for him to be on the verge of completely losing his s*** he needs to lose almost all of his matches, something that could damage his image a bit unless the few wins he does pick up happen to be big ones. Unless Undertaker or HHH show up just to give Bryan a rub there would not be a bigger match that Bryan could have gotten than one over Cena. I would venture to say that beating Cena could have allowed him to retain all of his credibility even if he lost the rest of his matches for some time, especially if the win was a referee decision due to Cena refusing to submit but passing out in a submission hold.
The second reason that Bryan should have won is that it would have made TV matches more compelling as no one can guarantee how the featured matches would end, which is not normally the case. Typically you could give any member of these boards the match lineup and we could predict with high accuracy how the matches would end, especially the main event for the show (which was supposed to be intriguing enough to keep you from changing the channel during the overrun).
Don't get me wrong, it was still a good match and it actually exceeded my expectations on how they would book Bryan in the match, but I was still slightly disappointed.
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Post by Cronant on Aug 7, 2012 8:37:37 GMT -5
No way should Bryan have won.
Cena's the one with the title match, and Bryan beating Cena, or anybody beating Cena, should be a big deal, not for a RAW match with no build, no matter how good it was.
The ending of RAW was going to be about Punk/Cena/Show, so it made sense for Cena to win. Bryan winning and them focusing on the WWE title thing would have made his win mean nothing.
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Post by Allison Reynolds on Aug 7, 2012 9:54:49 GMT -5
Fantastic RAW/TV match. I think Daniel Bryan did much to make the thing work as well as it did. Cena's good, but I think DBry being there helped.
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Post by Big L on Aug 7, 2012 9:56:27 GMT -5
If Cena wasn't in the title match at SSlam, I'd say him and Bryan could face each other
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Aug 7, 2012 10:06:08 GMT -5
No way should Bryan have won. Cena's the one with the title match, and Bryan beating Cena, or anybody beating Cena, should be a big deal, not for a RAW match with no build, no matter how good it was. The ending of RAW was going to be about Punk/Cena/Show, so it made sense for Cena to win. Bryan winning and them focusing on the WWE title thing would have made his win mean nothing. Oh, I understand that and I would have to point out that my point was that if it hadn't been a Bryan match I probably would not have bothered watching the match as I predicted (accurately, I might add) exactly what would happen. They need to mix it up a little, Cena can take the occasional loss without taking a hit to his reputation, and by no means did I think that the end should have been straight up clean. I felt that then ending should have included either Punk or Show distracting Cena without laying a hand on him, causing him to stop paying attention to Bryan for a fatal moment. That would serve the double purpose of making the match results a little more unpredictable and could still have progressed the title picture.
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Post by CMWaters on Aug 7, 2012 10:50:07 GMT -5
The only thing I would have really added, and a different team of commentators might have done this, would be mention that it was Cena that brought Bryan back to WWE in 2010.
But then again that would be WWE remembering that continuity.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2012 11:16:51 GMT -5
Not only was the match great but the crowd reaction to it was like a big time PPV main event match, not a random Raw match.
Hopefully they get 20-25 minutes on PPV at some point with the WWE title on the line. Maybe at Survivor Series or something.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Aug 7, 2012 11:18:51 GMT -5
Right now Bryan's storyline is pointing towards him losing his composure stemming on fallout from AJ leaving him at the alter, so if that's where WWE's headed, he can't afford to get a win over the company's other top guy. It made sense for him to edge out Punk on those few occasions, because he was pretty high on himself then. But in the midst of Bryan losing his grip on things, I think a win over Cena would have given him too much of his groove back. Add on how strong he looked during the match, and I don't see how he was hurt by the (close) loss at all. As for Lawler's coments, that can easily be fixed: {Spoiler}
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Post by Society of the Spectacle on Aug 7, 2012 11:36:53 GMT -5
As a big Bryan fan, I had absolutely no problem with him losing last night.
Only a select few guys go five seconds in the STFU without tapping, and even fewer break out of it like Bryan did.
Basically, they're booking Bryan has they should be booking most guys in the upper card: "he's not quite there yet, but soon he will be major threat." They are giving Bryan a ton of momentum by going toe to toe with the guy at the top of the company.
It was a great match, Cena got his win going into Summerslam, and Bryan got to show off his tremendous skills in the featured main event of RAW. It was a win/win, or a win/win.win if you include the people watching.
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Post by 4real on Aug 7, 2012 12:29:27 GMT -5
Brilliant match. The attention Bryan was getting throughout as well as countering the AA and the STF made him look a million bucks. The close up of Bryan outside the ring was a fantastic shot too. This basically is what a RAW main event should be really.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Aug 7, 2012 12:43:03 GMT -5
Right now Bryan's storyline is pointing towards him losing his composure stemming on fallout from AJ leaving him at the alter, so if that's where WWE's headed, he can't afford to get a win over the company's other top guy. It made sense for him to edge out Punk on those few occasions, because he was pretty high on himself then. But in the midst of Bryan losing his grip on things, I think a win over Cena would have given him too much of his groove back. Add on how strong he looked during the match, and I don't see how he was hurt by the (close) loss at all. As for Lawler's coments, that can easily be fixed: {Spoiler} Don't get me wrong, I am not too bothered by the loss as it was a close one. In fact, if they follow it up right it can be a good thing. My point was that Bryan needs to lose a lot in the near future and I don't want him to get as neutered as Jericho got.
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Post by lionheart21 on Aug 7, 2012 13:08:18 GMT -5
Say what you will about Cena's character, but the man works his ass off in the ring. And putting him in there with a top-tier wrestler like Bryan is gonna result in a very solid match.
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Post by WarChief on Aug 7, 2012 13:34:50 GMT -5
God, Lawler just sucks the enjoyment out of anything he touches. DB is my favorite and he's in the main event, looking competitive against Cena, and Lawler just ruins it.
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Post by mrjl on Aug 7, 2012 18:02:51 GMT -5
TBH, this should have never been on RAW. This had PPV-level quality. and maybe then they can have a Wrestlemania quality one at a random PPV.
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