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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Aug 7, 2012 21:37:35 GMT -5
 Jesus f*** I hate Kevin Nash. Cute baby pic. That was dumb and disrespectful what KN said about two people who are dead. Which two people |
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Post by Hakumental on Aug 7, 2012 21:44:14 GMT -5
This reminds me of when Prince said "the internet is over."
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 7, 2012 22:20:46 GMT -5
Pretty funny interview; and whether ya agree or disagree with his points (for the most part I don't, but eh), at least he always states them well.
Though the art museum thing felt a little like " hey look, I'm cultured", which is a bit silly. I dig museums as well, but the fact that 'most wrestling fans' don't isn't really a wrestling fan thing, it's a 'most of society' thing.
Honestly, I don't think the business in general is worried any more about the larger than life thing. If they were, they wouldn't be social media overload all over the place and bombarding you with things like Twitter that show that every one of them are normal people. I'll grant you that that's because the world itself has changed and WWE etc are perhaps smartly following money, but the larger than life thing is dead.
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Post by Sparvid on Aug 7, 2012 22:37:57 GMT -5
I expected the last line to be "McMahon admitted to not having any idea what Nash was talking about, since the last movie he had seen was in 1983."
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 7, 2012 22:41:07 GMT -5
Vince thought Nash was talking about White Heat.
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Post by thecrusherwi on Aug 7, 2012 22:50:17 GMT -5
I really do mean it when I say I agree with him here. Nash has forgotten more about working and drawing money than any internet wrestling fan including myself. Getting mad that he said something bad about one of your faves won't change the truth behind what he said. Had Austin strolled off the jetway at DFW or Minot international airport, the result would be the same. A mob scene mark out. If CM Punk or Bryan did it there may be a few at DFW but nobody in Minot would instantly recognize him without his gimmick. Like David lee Either said "if you aren't played in Tahiti, you aren't anywhere". Kevin Nash was hardly a draw in the WWF in '95, so he doesn't really have any room to talk. He's also never really been much of a worker, either. Nash was a pretty huge draw for WCW. Him and Goldberg was the 3rd biggest buyrate in WCW history and by far the best one without Hogan on the card. (And before you say, "That was because of Goldberg", no other Goldberge ME'd card is even in the top 10). While he had a very douchy way of saying what he said, in a lot of ways he's right. Guys like Daniel Bryan and CM Punk do lack the larger than life quality. And he wasn't talking height. Cena is shorter, but he's built like world class bodybuilder, and Austin was too but he has a very distinct look and he acted larger than life. I think what he meant is that you need to be more than just a good technical wrestler to be a big star. Which is 100% right. He just could've said it much less condecendingly. |
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Post by arrx on Aug 7, 2012 23:03:01 GMT -5
Kevin Nash dropping knowledge and truth and the fools in this thread can't take it.
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Post by BigWill on Aug 7, 2012 23:05:50 GMT -5
Kevin Nash dropping knowledge and truth and the fools in this thread can't take it. ... Not even sure how to respond to this. |
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Post by joebob27 on Aug 7, 2012 23:06:07 GMT -5
Kevin Nash was hardly a draw in the WWF in '95, so he doesn't really have any room to talk. He's also never really been much of a worker, either. Nash was a pretty huge draw for WCW. Him and Goldberg was the 3rd biggest buyrate in WCW history and by far the best one without Hogan on the card. (And before you say, "That was because of Goldberg", no other Goldberge ME'd card is even in the top 10). While he had a very douchy way of saying what he said, in a lot of ways he's right. Guys like Daniel Bryan and CM Punk do lack the larger than life quality. And he wasn't talking height. Cena is shorter, but he's built like world class bodybuilder, and Austin was too but he has a very distinct look and he acted larger than life. I think what he meant is that you need to be more than just a good technical wrestler to be a big star. Which is 100% right. He just could've said it much less condecendingly. Um, Goldberg didn't ME very many PPV's. He wasn't even on a couple and had mid-card title defenses at others. That was one of the few, if there were any other, PPVs where he was billed at the top of the card. So I'm not sure why Nash deserves that credit. Yeah, he was a bigger star in WCW than in WWF(e), but let's not go nuts |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2012 23:06:24 GMT -5
Kevin Nash giving his opinion on wrestling and wrestling fans discussing it. Yes this is what is happening right now. |
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Post by lildude8218 on Aug 7, 2012 23:28:24 GMT -5
someone should start a wrestling themed band called Benoit Guerrero and the Vanilla Midgets
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Post by thecrusherwi on Aug 7, 2012 23:33:34 GMT -5
Nash was a pretty huge draw for WCW. Him and Goldberg was the 3rd biggest buyrate in WCW history and by far the best one without Hogan on the card. (And before you say, "That was because of Goldberg", no other Goldberge ME'd card is even in the top 10). While he had a very douchy way of saying what he said, in a lot of ways he's right. Guys like Daniel Bryan and CM Punk do lack the larger than life quality. And he wasn't talking height. Cena is shorter, but he's built like world class bodybuilder, and Austin was too but he has a very distinct look and he acted larger than life. I think what he meant is that you need to be more than just a good technical wrestler to be a big star. Which is 100% right. He just could've said it much less condecendingly. Um, Goldberg didn't ME very many PPV's. He wasn't even on a couple and had mid-card title defenses at others. That was one of the few, if there were any other, PPVs where he was billed at the top of the card. So I'm not sure why Nash deserves that credit. Yeah, he was a bigger star in WCW than in WWF(e), but let's not go nuts I'm not saying he was Hogan, but for people to discredit his opinion because he didn't draw, they are wrong. If you want to say he's just one old wrestler and I don't personally give a f*** what he has to say, now we're getting somewhere. |
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Post by MGH on Aug 7, 2012 23:34:06 GMT -5
@iamjericho Funny how @realkevinnash says wrestling “died” when Benoit and Guerrero were champs-Yet the worst year for WWE biz was 95 when he was on top
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Post by Cronant on Aug 7, 2012 23:38:31 GMT -5
I'm sorry Jericho but who is this "Benoit" character? WWE universe help me out here.
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Post by The Tee Why on Aug 7, 2012 23:40:37 GMT -5
I bet Nash still walks around bragging about that big pop he got at the 2011 royal rumble
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Post by joebob27 on Aug 7, 2012 23:46:06 GMT -5
Um, Goldberg didn't ME very many PPV's. He wasn't even on a couple and had mid-card title defenses at others. That was one of the few, if there were any other, PPVs where he was billed at the top of the card. So I'm not sure why Nash deserves that credit. Yeah, he was a bigger star in WCW than in WWF(e), but let's not go nuts I'm not saying he was Hogan, but for people to discredit his opinion because he didn't draw, they are wrong. If you want to say he's just one old wrestler and I don't personally give a f*** what he has to say, now we're getting somewhere. In the WWE, he DIDN'T draw, that's the thing. He did in WCW but I'm not giving him the credit for that PPV and ignoring Goldberg, who was ridiculously over but they booked in some odd-ass way in a combination of 1) the old guys up top needing to be all over the PPV's with celebrities and 2) his greeness and them not wanting him to work more than 10 minutes. That might be one of the only legit PPV ME's he did. The rest of that PPV was lame considering the roster WCW had, so that match was obviously the major selling point. |
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Post by thecrusherwi on Aug 8, 2012 0:00:55 GMT -5
I'm not saying he was Hogan, but for people to discredit his opinion because he didn't draw, they are wrong. If you want to say he's just one old wrestler and I don't personally give a f*** what he has to say, now we're getting somewhere. In the WWE, he DIDN'T draw, that's the thing. He did in WCW but I'm not giving him the credit for that PPV and ignoring Goldberg, who was ridiculously over but they booked in some odd-ass way in a combination of 1) the old guys up top needing to be all over the PPV's with celebrities and 2) his greeness and them not wanting him to work more than 10 minutes. That might be one of the only legit PPV ME's he did. The rest of that PPV was lame considering the roster WCW had, so that match was obviously the major selling point. Where did I say ignore Goldberg? I'm saying it wasn't ONLY Goldberg. To not give credit to Nash is ridiculous. Goldberg fought DDP at Halloween Havoc 98, and DDP was a pretty huge star in 98, but even with Hogan vs. Warrior and Sting vs. Bret in the undercard of that show, Starrcade with Nash and Goldberg blew it out of the water with basically nothing of note in the undercard. The two of them were a huge draw. And what difference does it make where you draw? Vince couldn't draw with anyone from 92-97. His quote makes no claims to his drawing power in the WWE. His opinion shouldn't be invalidated ON THE GROUNDS that he didn't draw, because he clearly did. Souled Out 98 was also one of WCW biggest buyrates too and Nash vs. Giant was promoted as the main event. I didn't make that original post to say that you can't disagree with him. His point is unorganized, very confusing, condecending, and embarrassingly simple and tunnelvisioned for a guy that a sentence earlier was trying to make some bizarre point about how he was more cultured, thus implying that he was more intelligent than the average wrestling fan. But to disqualify his opinions on the grounds that he didn't draw is silly, because he did draw. Thats all I was trying to say  |
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Post by mizerable on Aug 8, 2012 0:02:58 GMT -5
Never change Nash...always "too cool" for wrestling.
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Post by Cronant on Aug 8, 2012 0:12:13 GMT -5
Nash's Jericho tweet. He's on another level of trolling.
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Aug 8, 2012 0:17:14 GMT -5
Kevin Nash is a IRL YouTube troll.
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