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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2012 14:05:29 GMT -5
Is there any possible outcome where Punk retains at SummerSlam and Cena/Rock II doesn't happen at WrestleMania? Punk could easily retain, but it's impossible that Rock/Cena II doesn't happen at some point. Never before. Never again. I have absolutely ZERO interest in a rematch, it was perfect as a one-time only type match. Remember the Hogan/Rock rematch? Barely, right? Me too.
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Post by 2CSultan on Aug 17, 2012 14:43:23 GMT -5
Punk could easily retain, but it's impossible that Rock/Cena II doesn't happen at some point. Never before. Never again. I have absolutely ZERO interest in a rematch, it was perfect as a one-time only type match. Remember the Hogan/Rock rematch? Barely, right? Me too. I still don't think they're going to do the rematch. I really think Punk vs. Rock will be the main event at Mania.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Aug 17, 2012 14:50:03 GMT -5
It's hard to bet against Cena, but WWE seemed to position Brock/Triple H as the bigger of the two matches. Maybe WWE doesn't mind letting Cena appear earlier in the card if he isn't winning the match.
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Post by Arrow on Aug 17, 2012 14:54:51 GMT -5
I have absolutely ZERO interest in a rematch, it was perfect as a one-time only type match. Remember the Hogan/Rock rematch? Barely, right? Me too. And yet the No Way Out event that Hogan/Rock II main evented did a better number than most pay-per-views of 2003, including that year's SummerSlam. So that really doesn't help the argument. Name me one big money-making match (Hogan/Andre, Hart/Michaels, Austin/Rock, Cena/Batista, etc.) of this kind that was done only one time (and uncontrollable circumstances like someone dying or leaving don't count). Even Hogan and Warrior got a sequel in WCW. It's pro wrestling, and there's no such thing as a big, successful match that'll only be done once.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Aug 17, 2012 15:02:49 GMT -5
I have absolutely ZERO interest in a rematch, it was perfect as a one-time only type match. Remember the Hogan/Rock rematch? Barely, right? Me too. And yet the No Way Out event that Hogan/Rock II main evented did a better number than most pay-per-views of 2003, including that year's SummerSlam. So that really doesn't help the argument. Name me one big money-making match (Hogan/Andre, Hart/Michaels, Austin/Rock, Cena/Batista, etc.) of this kind that was done only one time (and uncontrollable circumstances like someone dying or leaving don't count). Even Hogan and Warrior got a sequel in WCW. It's pro wrestling, and there's no such thing as a big, successful match that'll only be done once. I don't remember much, but were those matches hyped as "once in a lifetime"?
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Post by Arrow on Aug 17, 2012 15:05:19 GMT -5
And yet the No Way Out event that Hogan/Rock II main evented did a better number than most pay-per-views of 2003, including that year's SummerSlam. So that really doesn't help the argument. Name me one big money-making match (Hogan/Andre, Hart/Michaels, Austin/Rock, Cena/Batista, etc.) of this kind that was done only one time (and uncontrollable circumstances like someone dying or leaving don't count). Even Hogan and Warrior got a sequel in WCW. It's pro wrestling, and there's no such thing as a big, successful match that'll only be done once. I don't remember much, but were those matches hyped as "once in a lifetime"? Does it matter? "Once in a Lifetime" has about as much meaning as a wrestler getting fired in storyline. It was just a slogan to further sell the match.
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Post by DragonMasterP on Aug 17, 2012 15:11:40 GMT -5
I'm actually looking forward to HHH/Lesnar, so I'm hoping that's the main event. Not betting on it, though.
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Post by e1987p on Aug 17, 2012 15:38:30 GMT -5
Cena win = triple threat match main event Punk win= Triple H vs. Brock Lesnar main event
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Post by Some Guy on Aug 17, 2012 15:53:47 GMT -5
I have absolutely ZERO interest in a rematch, it was perfect as a one-time only type match. Remember the Hogan/Rock rematch? Barely, right? Me too. And yet the No Way Out event that Hogan/Rock II main evented did a better number than most pay-per-views of 2003, including that year's SummerSlam. So that really doesn't help the argument. Name me one big money-making match (Hogan/Andre, Hart/Michaels, Austin/Rock, Cena/Batista, etc.) of this kind that was done only one time (and uncontrollable circumstances like someone dying or leaving don't count). Even Hogan and Warrior got a sequel in WCW. It's pro wrestling, and there's no such thing as a big, successful match that'll only be done once. The difference is that in between those matches, they all feuded with someone else. Hogan feuded with Triple H, Taker, Billy/Chuck, UnAmericans, Brock, Angle, etc. in between the matches with Rock. The others were obviously spread apart well enough, so it's not much of a comparison. the point being, if Rock's only going to wrestle a few times, having him fight Cena twice just doesn't bring much to the table. I'd rather Bryan get a title win in a feud with Cena, then face Rock at Rumble setting up for Rock/Punk at Mania. Would it sell as much as Rock/Cena version II? Meh, it might get 100,000 less buys tops, but even then, I'm not terribly sure. Rock/Punk and Rock/Bryan would do wonders for the other two guys careers, while Rock/Cena would just be a way to get Cena his victory back and nullify a blu-ray/DVD release that they titled ONCE IN A LIFETIME. That may just be a phrase, but releasing a DVD with taht title and then nullifying it less than a year later...
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Post by Arrow on Aug 17, 2012 16:20:52 GMT -5
The difference is that in between those matches, they all feuded with someone else. Hogan feuded with Triple H, Taker, Billy/Chuck, UnAmericans, Brock, Angle, etc. in between the matches with Rock. The others were obviously spread apart well enough, so it's not much of a comparison. the point being, if Rock's only going to wrestle a few times, having him fight Cena twice just doesn't bring much to the table. Rock/Punk and Rock/Bryan would do wonders for the other two guys careers, while Rock/Cena would just be a way to get Cena his victory back and nullify a blu-ray/DVD release that they titled ONCE IN A LIFETIME. That may just be a phrase, but releasing a DVD with taht title and then nullifying it less than a year later... What the difference really is that all of those guys were on the roster longer, so WWE could put them against others before redoing the big feuds. Hogan in 2002 was actually on the main roster and worked more than four matches in the span of three years. If Hulk Hogan had Rock's current schedule, he wouldn't have gone against most of the guys that he did. The Rock is only here for 1-2 matches a year and if you want to make the most money off of them, you put him against the biggest guys you have. And that certainly means Cena, especially since the first match grossed a lot of money. And we're getting Rock/Punk at some point next year and if Rock stays past WrestleMania 29 then we'll probably get Rock/Bryan, too. We already got Rock in a feud Miz/Truth at Survivor Series 2011, so he has ad will work with other talent besides Cena. As far as the "Once in a Lifetime" DVD goes, if anyone seriously believed that it was anything more than a cash-in on a big match, then I honestly don't know what to say. The bottom line is that as long as WWE believes Rock/Cena II could make them more money, then they'd be stupid not to do it again. It doesn't have to be at WrestleMania, but it'll happen at some point.
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Post by Krimzon on Aug 17, 2012 16:22:21 GMT -5
I'll believe Lesnar wins when the ref's hand hits the mat the 3rd time.
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 17, 2012 16:27:46 GMT -5
I'll believe Lesnar wins when the ref's hand hits the mat the 3rd time. Then HHH will immediately get up, jog around the ring and smile to the crowd.
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Post by amaron on Aug 17, 2012 16:29:50 GMT -5
Another Cena title reign will probably put me back on wrestling hiatus.
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Aug 17, 2012 17:29:19 GMT -5
I figured it would be Triple H VS Brock Lesnar.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2012 17:37:53 GMT -5
Cena / Rock should not be done again, period. They billed it as once in a lifetime, keep it that way.
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Post by WorkingInAColeMine on Aug 17, 2012 18:25:48 GMT -5
Twice in a lifetime match!
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Post by psychokiller on Aug 17, 2012 18:40:18 GMT -5
I've always been one of those people who feels the WWE Title Match should go on last a majority of the time. But they've been making the Brock vs HHH match seem way more important. But regardless of who's the main event, if Brock loses, he might as well just disappear from WWE for good. He wouldn't be seen as a threat going forward to anyone, if he loses to both Cena & HHH in the only 2 matches he's had this year. If they somehow still plan Brock vs Taker at Mania with Brock not winning a match all year, it would be extremely laughable.
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Post by The Punisher on Aug 17, 2012 18:59:01 GMT -5
Another Cena title reign will probably put me back on wrestling hiatus. This. So much this. I am sick to death of WWE's continual pushing of this multi coloured loon. Cena DOES NOT NEED THE TITLE, yet its painfully obvious that he'll win, because, hey, let's fall back on the easy option and give it to the merch shiller. Yes, Cena v Rock 2 is a certainty, and it will make money, but it doesn't have to be about the WWE Championship. Punk v Bryan, or Ziggler, or Heaven forefend a new main eventer could have some real meaning if given a chance. But no, lets pin the belt on Cena again, so this five move buffoon can sit alongside the greats with a 12th title reign, lacking the credibility of the other champions he's supposed to be as good as. If Cena wins the belt, why does he have to go on last, because we all have to live John Cena. WWE says so, and God forbid they further a storyline by having their precious superman lose in the main event. Rant over.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Aug 17, 2012 19:08:21 GMT -5
Cena / Rock should not be done again, period. They billed it as once in a lifetime, keep it that way. Since when have slogans like that meant anything in pro wrestling? First time. Last time. Only time.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2012 20:32:16 GMT -5
Swerve, it'll be Sheamus vs Del Rio.
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