Jazzman
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Post by Jazzman on Apr 11, 2012 22:27:33 GMT -5
Kudos to Kentucky fans for landing Nerlens. You've got a good player whose coming with a lot of baggage and a lot of mouths in his ear. What was most telling tonight was that Nerlens' decision was made last night and that his mother played a big role. I understand a parent wanting their child to make the right choice, but with him being in CT and having UCONN and two northeastern powerhouses with tradition in SU and G'Town recruiting him, it does bring pause that she isn't looking at the right now which to me is the most important thing.
If you want your son to stay home, if you can't see your baby far away from you let him to go a northeastern school, he has the talent to transcend the game regardless of college. You want your son to be the best person and player he can possibly be, not make you the most money, which is what I think may have been a big decision. That's going to put a ton of unneeded pressure on a young man going into one of the most pressure filled situations of his life. Is he really ready for that? It's hard to say. Plus I think he's got a bit of an ego. he doesn't want to be treated like a regular guy, he wants to be a demigod to the people at Kentucky and that's what he'll be if he plays well for them.
I have no doubt he's going to star, probably be an all-American, but I'm also happy that my team isn't going to have to deal with everything that comes with getting Nerlens Noel. I wouldn't trade DaJuan Coleman for him, SU will be fine and we'll continue to be great. It's the situation of having to take the good with the bad really.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Apr 11, 2012 22:37:09 GMT -5
Still find it hard to believe that he took two teams to the finals before Kentucky and both teams had major problems. Listen, I fully admit that some day he might make me look stupid on here for how hard I take up for him, but until then I have no reason to not stick to my guns. I've fought this fight at least 5,000 times since he came here in 09. At least I'm consistent. I defended him back at Memphis. I've always thought it was ridiculous the way he's painted considering there's never been any kind of proof of wrong doing on HIS part. People compare him to Scott Drew at Baylor, but I've never seen that either. Putting together dominant teams at UK isn't anything new. Building Baylor from nothing is a little odd. Most coaches LOATHE Scott Drew. They'll say that off the record to anyone who will listen. Cal is friends with some of the biggest name coaches in the country, who he has beaten for recruits before, who don't have a bad thing to say about him. People look at Tom Izzo (who I love) as everything that's right with college hoops, and he takes up for Cal every chance he gets. Tom Crean is running what people like to consider the cleanest program in America, and Cal is one of his best friends in his life. No one has ever been able to tell me how Marcus Camby taking money from an agent for NBA representation and if anything to LEAVE UMass is supposed to somehow reflect poorly on Cal as a cheat. The guy was paying him for post college, totally unrelated to staying at UMass, but Cal is dirty for it? Or how the NCAA clearing Derrick Rose 2 or 3 (stories get fuzzy) separate times then coming back a full year after the fact proves Cal is dirty for playing him. As if the coaches from the other schools recruiting him (and also, that's a funny part. People act like he's the only coach daring enough to take some of these kids. News flash, he has to beat other teams for them) wouldn't have done the same. The NCAA said that SAT problem would have followed Derrick to whatever school he eventually ended up at. If he goes to Illinois, is Bruce Weber the dirtiest coach in America and not Cal? Stuff like that drives me nuts. Enes Kanter might have been the best one. The NCAA president got touted as some god for coming down hard and never allowing that guy to play in college. Everyone acted like it was "that damn UK and Cal trying to skirt the rules again". People never seem to remember that UK wasn't the first school Kanter committed to. He committed to Washington well before he pulled back out and looked around again. Who happened to be the president of that university at the time that accepted Enes' commitment with open arms? The very same NCAA president, Mark Emmert, who decided to swing his big boy stick around after the face. If he's dirty and evil and whatever exaggeration people want to throw at him I guess we'll all find out at the same time. Meanwhile, I still have no reason to believe any of it. People who aren't huge college basketball fans listen to 5 minutes of sports talk radio and read something from Pete Thamel (oh, if people only knew) and lay judgment on the guy with maybe 2% of the story, and that 2% is usually factually wrong. If CBB is your NFL like it is to me and a lot of other UK fans, you get in deep with these stories and find out how ridiculous a lot of them are. People who keep waiting for last year's banner and now this new one to come down are going to be waiting for a long time. I think the problem is who Calipari recruits are people who while talented, never consider the big picture and for the most part.......are using Kentucky. Thats why Calipari ends up having his wins vacated.
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Post by andrew8798 on Apr 12, 2012 17:11:54 GMT -5
UConn freshman C Andre Drummond has decided to enter the 2012 NBA draft, sources tell ESPN.com.
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Post by andrew8798 on Apr 17, 2012 17:24:21 GMT -5
Reports are That Larry Brown new head coach at SMU
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Post by MGH on Apr 17, 2012 17:25:41 GMT -5
Reports are That Larry Brown new head coach at SMU Not only that, but he's taking Rod Strickland with him along with megastar recruiter Jerrance Howard. Larry isn't going in unprepared. Also, the UK press conference where Davis, Jones, Gilly, Teague, and Lamb are announcing their decisions about the NBA (hmm, any guesses? heh) will be on ESPNU at 7 tonight.
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Post by Unocal 76 on Apr 17, 2012 17:36:03 GMT -5
If any of the freshman announce they'll be returning for a sophomore season, MGH will be thrilled.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2012 17:55:49 GMT -5
Don't think it was announced here but Shabazz is going to UCLA.
That could be a scary good team this year.
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Post by Steveweiser on Apr 18, 2012 13:37:43 GMT -5
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Post by Loki-A-Go-Go! on Apr 18, 2012 14:16:21 GMT -5
Aww.
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Post by Loki-A-Go-Go! on Apr 19, 2012 9:14:22 GMT -5
Jarrod Uthoff Transfer: Is Bo Ryan Making the Wisconsin Badgers Look Bad?
Jarrod Uthoff Transfer: Is Bo Ryan Making the Wisconsin Badgers Look Bad?
Jarrod Uthoff, a Wisconsin redshirt freshman, reportedly submitted a list of 25 possible transfer schools to Wisconsin officials, but he’s reportedly being denied a transfer to over half schools on the list.
Wisconsin officials are prohibiting him from transferring to other Big Ten schools, all ACC schools, Iowa State and Marquette.
Badger's head coach Bo Ryan may win the battle, but he won’t win the war.
For Uthoff to be allowed to transfer, he must have permission from officials at Wisconsin, which they are declining.
It’s simply a case of Wisconsin digging a hole and burying themselves in it, and there’s no way they can come out looking good.
Prohibiting him from transferring to a Big Ten rival, I get that, but going on and on with this list of prohibited schools will hurt Wisconsin for many years to come.
Firstly, it directly affects future recruits who may be looking to commit to the University of Wisconsin.
The reason top recruits go to play for people like John Calipari is because they know he's a player's coach. At Kentucky, Calipari accepts the constant flow of one-and-done players.
In this situation, Bo Ryan is making himself look like the anti-Calipari. While Wisconsin may not be a top recruiter in the country, they certainly aren’t helping their case to get any top recruits in the future.
Not only will this put up red flags for high school graduates, but opposing teams—like recruiting rivals in the Big Ten—are going to say, “Hey, you don’t want to go to a school with a strict coach like Wisconsin. Look at the way they treated a guy who wanted to transfer.”
Secondly, the move is simply unfair to Uthoff.
Collegiate students aren’t paid. In my mind, they should be, and no, I’m not just talking about scholarships. But that’s a topic for another time.
Coaches leave players in the dust everyday, as many coaches chase the next big job and next big payday.
They use their recruits as a springboard to propel themselves along. How is it fair to stop an athlete from transferring when coaches can just leave at the drop of a hat?
If VCU head coach Shaka Smart had gotten an offer for a job better than the one he was reportedly offered at Illinois, would he have taken it?
I think it’s safe to say he would have, leaving his program behind and abandoning the returning players and incoming recruits.
That’s what makes college sports so interesting. More often than not now, players commit to universities—not coaches.
Even when players commit to play for coaches at big-time schools, like the SEC for football, there’s always the chance the coach takes the next big paycheck to move up to the NFL.
Finally, this decision will have an effect on more than just the basketball program. The decision could tarnish former football coach and current athletic director Barry Alvarez.
If it gets all the way to Alvarez, you would have to bet he would grant Uthoff his wish.
If Bo Ryan wants to block it, so be it, but if Alvarez wants to block him as well, things could get ugly. That’s when you wonder if it will effect the football program as well, giving the university a bad reputation.
This story has already attracted national attention because Ryan is blocking him from transferring to so many schools. If coaches can leave so easily, why don't players have a right to transfer to wherever they want?
It’s best for Bo Ryan to swallow his pride, allow Uthoff to transfer to wherever he pleases and take the hit.
Swallowing one scholarship player leaving is one thing, but losing potential scholarship players for years to come in both football and basketball is even worse.
It shouldn’t get to Barry Alvarez, and it doesn’t need to. You lose the battle to win the war. Bo Ryan needs to realize this.
Even though Bo Ryan deserves credit for addressing the Jarrod Uthoff situation publicly for the first time Wednesday night, the Wisconsin coach probably didn't help himself by breaking his silence.
Instead of apologizing to the freshman forward for severely restricting which schools he can contact to pursue a transfer, Ryan attempted to justify his decision by insisting this is a common phenomenon across the nation. "There are rules of a scholarship. I didn't make them up," Ryan told ESPN's Andy Katz. Ryan later added, "This is something that all coaches do. I didn't make the rules. I'm just following them." Scholarships do indeed come with a set of rules, but nowhere among them are coaches compelled not to release a transfer to 26 schools. Ryan, clearly angry at Uthoff's sudden and unexpected decision to transfer last week, banned the Iowa native from contacting Iowa State, Marquette, Florida and every school in the Big Ten or ACC. Had Ryan merely barred Uthoff from reaching out to rival Marquette and other Big Ten schools, it wouldn't have been a magnanimous decision but it also wouldn't have created a media firestorm. Instead he crossed the line between protecting his program's interest and trying to restrict the opportunities available to a player out of spite. The fact that Ryan attempts to justify not releasing Uthoff to the entire ACC because of a 1 in 12 chance of playing that team once a year in the Big Ten-ACC Challenge? That's remarkably petty. Same goes for Iowa State, which isn't even on Wisconsin's schedule in the future and also happens to be the only power-conference team in Uthoff's home state that's not a member of the Big Ten. As a result of the restrictions, the only school Uthoff is interested in that has a scholarship available and permission to speak with him is Creighton. Jamie Johnson, Uthoff's former AAU coach, said the freshman intends to visit Creighton sometime in the next week, but he is also appealing Wisconsin's restrictions in hopes of opening other options for himself. Hopefully Uthoff either wins his appeal or finds that Creighton is an ideal fit for him. Otherwise, he may be low on options because despite intense media pressure, it doesn't sound like Ryan is budging.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Apr 19, 2012 16:35:06 GMT -5
^Yeah that's a douche move on Bo Ryan's part.
They were ripping him on Mike and Mike this morning. They were saying they could understand blocking the kid from going to another school in the conference, but to do what Ryan did was bullshit. They obviously didn't say bullshit, but they weren't favorable of Ryan.
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Post by Loki-A-Go-Go! on Apr 20, 2012 5:52:51 GMT -5
Jarrod Uthoff won his appeal and is now able to go to any team he wants to outside of the Big Ten.
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Post by Chuckie Finster on Apr 23, 2012 15:35:02 GMT -5
Seth Greenburg is out at Virginia Tech.
From the Washington Post.
And yes, VT's #1 target is Shaka.
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Post by Loki-A-Go-Go! on May 15, 2012 10:31:40 GMT -5
Former Kentucky basketball player charged in sex abuse case
A former Kentucky player has been arrested in Lexington and charged with sex abuse and sodomy.
WLEX-TV reports that 25-year-old Michael James Porter was arrested early Tuesday morning.
The station cites court documents that state Porter allegedly had sexual contact with an underage girl that he met while serving as a group leader during a church function.
The Fayette County Detention Center's website lists Porter as an inmate, but it did not have details on whether he had an attorney.
Porter played at Kentucky for three seasons, from 2006-2009, but left in his junior year to spend more time with his wife and child.
During his last year, he played in 36 games, averaging 4.1 points and 2.5 assists per game.
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