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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Oct 18, 2011 19:36:34 GMT -5
Maybe the reason it doesn't make sense if cause we don't know the lead up. no promos, no backstage segments, not even an intro vid. It's one line of text about a match with nothing else. Sorry, but I don't think that's enough of a reason to permanently hate this move. Buddy, I applaud your optimism, but think of it this way. They had MONTHS of build up, MOTHS, and they could have had Storm go over in the tournament finale, which would have lead to this exact result last night, but with a story behind it that made sense. Instead, they put Roode in the finals, he lost, then Storm gets a title shot and cashes in in the same night. I'm fine with the end result, as I LOVE James Storm, but if the would have changed the finish to the "finals" and had Storm go over, an easy thing to do, it would not be getting criticized, at least not by most of us. Spot on. No hate for the defending at all; hell I LOVE the move in one way; it's just the fact that ya coulda done this to begin with that's just so bizarre.
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Post by invaderdave on Oct 18, 2011 19:38:13 GMT -5
I think this is the best thing TNA's done in a long time.
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Post by MGH on Oct 18, 2011 19:40:04 GMT -5
Buddy, I applaud your optimism, but think of it this way. They had MONTHS of build up, MOTHS, and they could have had Storm go over in the tournament finale, which would have lead to this exact result last night, but with a story behind it that made sense. Instead, they put Roode in the finals, he lost, then Storm gets a title shot and cashes in in the same night. I'm fine with the end result, as I LOVE James Storm, but if the would have changed the finish to the "finals" and had Storm go over, an easy thing to do, it would not be getting criticized, at least not by most of us. Spot on. No hate for the defending at all; hell I LOVE the move in one way; it's just the fact that ya coulda done this to begin with that's just so bizarre. Agreed. Storm getting the belt in its own bubble is AWESOME. There's no denying that. But the circumstances are somewhere between laughable and f***ing stupid. This would have been like Batista going in to Mania 21 as the challenger, losing, and the next night on Raw Christian beating HHH to win the belt. Awesome? Absolutely. f***ing stupid given the past months of programming? Undeniably.
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Oct 18, 2011 19:40:08 GMT -5
Eddie Edwards won the ROH title before his tag team partner Davey Richards did.I dont follow ROH too closely but from what I understand/remember from threads people had figured Davey was going to get it.
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Post by canceled4truth on Oct 18, 2011 19:40:46 GMT -5
Anyways, congrats to Storm. I like him, so this is great. disappointed that Roode's push came to nothing, but hey, at least they didn't give it to Hardy. I probably would've quit TNA if that happened.
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Post by Michael Coello on Oct 18, 2011 19:41:50 GMT -5
To those saying they wasted that build cause it was Roode getting all the attention, check this out, homies:
During the big tourney, Roode wasn't the only guy asked about his chances. Everyone was. EVERY. ONE. Storm himself was also in the finals, and lost via some BS in his match. Sympathy. We had the same amount of passion as Roode did, just falling short.
Cut to after the moment, with Roode being build, who else was by him all that time? Storm? Who was Kurt himself hoping for in the end? Storm. Storm was as apart of that build as Roode was.
It's not out of nowhere. He was right there at all times. just cause Pappy Storm didn't get a vid doesn't mean he had nothing.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Oct 18, 2011 19:42:17 GMT -5
Plus this would seem to guarantee the inevitable Beer Money feud; " I got it done when you couldn't" blah blah blah, only Roode is jealous insteada Storm.
For once it'd be nice to see a tag team NOT go that route.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2011 19:42:51 GMT -5
I think we can all agree that it's nice that Storm got the belt, but the circumstances surrounding it are a gigantic pile of animal feces.
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Post by Cronant on Oct 18, 2011 19:43:10 GMT -5
Hogan won.
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Post by canceled4truth on Oct 18, 2011 19:44:00 GMT -5
Eddie Edwards won the ROH title before his tag team partner Davey Richards did.I dont follow ROH too closely but from what I understand/remember from threads people had figured Davey was going to get it. Oh, I was thinking on the lines that they gave someone the title a few days after a PPV. I was also pretty shocked when I read that Eddie won the belt.
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Oct 18, 2011 19:44:07 GMT -5
Yeah, how dare I like that one of my favorites just won the big belt? What is wrong with me?! It's not that you like that Storm just won the belt. It's that you're trying to defend a booking decision that makes zero sense given the last four months of build have all pointed to Roode winning the title, and has just buried him in a manner that Triple H would envy. We don't even know what happened yet with Roode, so to say that Roode is buried is ridiculous.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Oct 18, 2011 19:44:57 GMT -5
To those saying they wasted that build cause it was Roode getting all the attention, check this out, homies: During the big tourney, Roode wasn't the only guy asked about his chances. Everyone was. EVERY. ONE. Storm himself was also in the finals, and lost via some BS in his match. Sympathy. We had the same amount of passion as Roode did, just falling short. Cut to after the moment, with Roode being build, who else was by him all that time? Storm? Who was Kurt himself hoping for in the end? Storm. Storm was as apart of that build as Roode was. It's not out of nowhere. He was right there at all times. just cause Pappy Storm didn't get a vid doesn't mean he had nothing. We're not saying it's outta nowhere. Not one person. We're saying it woulda made more sense and been much simpler, AND not resulted in people getting angry about Roode failing if they'd have just gone with Storm in the first place. We're saying the route they took to get there was much more convoluted than it needed to be.
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Post by smoof on Oct 18, 2011 19:45:36 GMT -5
James Storm won the title? Awesome. Long time coming.
That said:
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Post by Michael Coello on Oct 18, 2011 19:48:22 GMT -5
To those saying they wasted that build cause it was Roode getting all the attention, check this out, homies: During the big tourney, Roode wasn't the only guy asked about his chances. Everyone was. EVERY. ONE. Storm himself was also in the finals, and lost via some BS in his match. Sympathy. We had the same amount of passion as Roode did, just falling short. Cut to after the moment, with Roode being build, who else was by him all that time? Storm? Who was Kurt himself hoping for in the end? Storm. Storm was as apart of that build as Roode was. It's not out of nowhere. He was right there at all times. just cause Pappy Storm didn't get a vid doesn't mean he had nothing. We're not saying it's outta nowhere. Not one person. We're saying it woulda made more sense and been much simpler, AND not resulted in people getting angry about Roode failing if they'd have just gone with Storm in the first place. We're saying the route they took to get there was much more convoluted than it needed to be. Simpler maybe, but probably wouldn't have been as expansive as it was. I mean, if Roode won, we probably won't have Storm being next. Maybe Angle in a rematch and then maybe Hardy or Anderson or whoever is available and established. At least here, we now bring both guys up a bit.
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Post by Frekydelic on Oct 18, 2011 19:52:12 GMT -5
At least the title's off Angle, guys. Apparently he was hurt going into it. Though I do agree, if the Twitter reports are true, Storm squashing Angle in a minute is a giant FU to Roode, and I don't like that one bit. I kind of want to see where they go from here. Color me intrigued.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Oct 18, 2011 19:54:51 GMT -5
Im sorry..........but I cant stop laughing at this.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2011 19:56:29 GMT -5
It's not that you like that Storm just won the belt. It's that you're trying to defend a booking decision that makes zero sense given the last four months of build have all pointed to Roode winning the title, and has just buried him in a manner that Triple H would envy. We don't even know what happened yet with Roode, so to say that Roode is buried is ridiculous. To me it's not so much the fact that Roode is getting buried, as much as it further devalues BFG to have the title change in a minute long contest the night after what's supposed to be their biggest event of the year. The results on Impact sound like shit but it could be helped by a little context. But the bottom line is TNA spent the last month building up this idea that Bobby Roode has stepped up his game, all of his peers agree that he's in top form and is ready. He's gonna win and he's gonna win on the biggest stage TNA has to offer. If this were any other event but BFG these results might be acceptable. This is relatively equivalent to Shawn Michaels failing to achieve his boyhood dream against Bret Hart at WM12, then Bret Hart losing to Marty Jannetty on Monday Night Raw. You just can't do that to fans if you want them to believe BFG is as big as they claim it to be next year and years after. We're already conditioned not to believe the hype with every other PPV, if you can't trust their biggest of the year then really what PPVs are safe buys then?
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Post by kingoftheindies on Oct 18, 2011 20:05:43 GMT -5
I will say, listening to James Storm's celebration in that twitvid and looking at Roode's buildup, they have built Storm up in a lot of ways. During the summer, he was the center of the feud with Matt Hardy, and he stepped his game up when Roode was hurt.
I mean, Roode did get screwed over, but I do think in some ways Storm makes for a better champ right now.
And as he said in the vid, he has been there since day 1. I watched him go from being Chris Harris's sidekick, to being his own man.
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Post by "I'm Batman..." on Oct 18, 2011 20:09:17 GMT -5
title change should've happened at BFG. that's the biggest problem.
if the title changes keep happening on TV, no one will buy PPVs.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Oct 18, 2011 20:12:20 GMT -5
I'm happy for Storm, but as far as bizarre booking decisions go, this is right up there.
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