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Post by TheMediocreWarrior on Dec 21, 2011 0:52:52 GMT -5
Was there ever a kayfabe explanation as to what would have happened if Hulk Hogan won the Intercontinental title at Wrestlemania 6?
Warrior forfeited the IC title after winning the world title, but did they say that the IC title would be vacated either way? That Hogan would basically get an IC title win to his credit then continue as world champion?
They used to be stricter about the wrestlers not holding more than one title (Backlund vacates the tag titles because he was WWF Champion for example).
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Dec 21, 2011 1:53:38 GMT -5
I believe Hogan would have vacated the belt. Also, it would have killed the value of the belt dead and many a great wrestler wouldn't have been able to climb up the card by holding it.
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Post by joebob27 on Dec 21, 2011 1:59:00 GMT -5
I believe Hogan would have vacated the belt. Also, it would have killed the value of the belt dead and many a great wrestler wouldn't have been able to climb up the card by holding it. How so, barring a DQ/CO finish (in which the building would have been burnt to the ground), the title was being vacated no matter what.... |
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Post by sdoyle7798 on Dec 21, 2011 5:50:18 GMT -5
I believe Hogan would have vacated the belt. Also, it would have killed the value of the belt dead and many a great wrestler wouldn't have been able to climb up the card by holding it. How so, barring a DQ/CO finish (in which the building would have been burnt to the ground), the title was being vacated no matter what.... This. All Hogan winning woulda done is bury the Ultimate Warrior by taking the IC title off of him, and, since he wouldn't have beaten Hogan, he'd have lost his steam rather quickly. The IC title would have gotten the exact same treatment it got anyway. |
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Post by mrjl on Dec 21, 2011 7:04:52 GMT -5
well, if Warrior had lost and Hogan vacated they could have put Warrior back in the IC title tourney and had him win it again.
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Post by sdoyle7798 on Dec 21, 2011 7:58:25 GMT -5
well, if Warrior had lost and Hogan vacated they could have put Warrior back in the IC title tourney and had him win it again. Then why even have him in a position to lose it? IMO, even if the WM6 match wouldn't have had the IC title on the line, Warrior had to win. A loss stops his momentum dead. With Warrior what else would there have been for him if he couldn't beat Hogan? |
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Post by willywonka666 on Dec 21, 2011 10:24:58 GMT -5
I believe Pedro Morales was IC champ when he won the world title and had to vacate one, just like when US champs the Midnight Express won the world tag team titles. Different promotions yea, but still
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Post by 747 on Dec 21, 2011 11:18:11 GMT -5
well, if Warrior had lost and Hogan vacated they could have put Warrior back in the IC title tourney and had him win it again. Then why even have him in a position to lose it? IMO, even if the WM8 match wouldn't have had the IC title on the line, Warrior had to win. A loss stops his momentum dead. With Warrior what else would there have been for him if he couldn't beat Hogan? This. As a face vs. face match the only real outcome was for Warrior to win. |
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Dec 21, 2011 12:46:10 GMT -5
well, if Warrior had lost and Hogan vacated they could have put Warrior back in the IC title tourney and had him win it again. Then why even have him in a position to lose it? IMO, even if the WM8 match wouldn't have had the IC title on the line, Warrior had to win. A loss stops his momentum dead. With Warrior what else would there have been for him if he couldn't beat Hogan? I was actually thinking about this. Warrior losing then doing a heel turn MIGHT have been able to salvage him as a main eventer. The important thing would be a rematch where the savage, heel Warrior goes over Hogan, setting up a third match to settle it. |
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Post by baronmordo on Dec 21, 2011 13:54:58 GMT -5
Pedro won the IC title years after his world title reign.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Dec 21, 2011 16:38:05 GMT -5
Pedro won the IC title years after his world title reign. IC title did not even exist when Pedro won the WWWF title. Pedro did hold a version of the US title that was declared vacant when he won the WWWF title. Bob Backlund and Pedro won the Tag Titles during Backlunds WWF title reign and they had to forfeit due to a rule that a World champion could not hold a secondary title. This first time this rule was shown to be no longer in effect was when Diesel held the WWF World and Tag Team titles. |
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Post by lildude8218 on Dec 21, 2011 16:43:50 GMT -5
if Warrior loses at Mania then you put him in the IC title tournament and have him LOSE in the finals to Mr. Perfect via interference by Bobby Heenan debuting as his manager to set up a Warrior/Perfect feud. that's all.
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Post by cool245 on Dec 21, 2011 17:53:02 GMT -5
Bob Backlund and Pedro won the Tag Titles during Backlunds WWF title reign and they had to forfeit due to a rule that a World champion could not hold a secondary title. Was there a kayfabe reason given why Backlund and Pedro were even challenging for the belts if Backlund couldn't hold two titles? To me it makes Backlund seem like an idiot for fighting for a title he wasn't allowed to hold. |
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Post by Feyrhausen on Dec 21, 2011 18:06:12 GMT -5
They took them from The Wild Samoans, who Backlund had long feuds with. I don't know the details of the feud but the way I would book it was Backlund needs help fighting both men, recruits former champ Pedro to help him. They have a match with the Samoans and take the titles from them, not to hold them, but to hurt the Samoans.
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Post by tigermaskxxxvii on Dec 21, 2011 21:27:06 GMT -5
They took them from The Wild Samoans, who Backlund had long feuds with. I don't know the details of the feud but the way I would book it was Backlund needs help fighting both men, recruits former champ Pedro to help him. They have a match with the Samoans and take the titles from them, not to hold them, but to hurt the Samoans. I think it could've been an interesting idea for a hypothetical Backlund-Morales feud. Imagine, Morales accuses Backlund of being selfish by costing Pedro his half of the WWWF Tag Team Titles. While Backlund is confused that his friend would actually think that he would give up the WWWF Title |
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Dec 22, 2011 1:33:43 GMT -5
I believe Hogan would have vacated the belt. Also, it would have killed the value of the belt dead and many a great wrestler wouldn't have been able to climb up the card by holding it. How so, barring a DQ/CO finish (in which the building would have been burnt to the ground), the title was being vacated no matter what.... There is a difference between Warrior winning a higher title and vacating it and Hogan winning a lesser title and basically saying, "f*** this. This belt is below mine, so is Warrior." and leaving it. |
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Post by hughmorris on Dec 22, 2011 1:50:25 GMT -5
As a little kid i marked out pretty good when warrior pinned hogan in the middle of the ring.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2011 2:19:24 GMT -5
The audience didn't know that once one guy had both belts the I-C title would be vacated until after Mania was over, so there was no need to give a kayfabe explanation. Going into the show, for all anyone knew, the winner of the match and both titles could have just walked out with two belts for the next year and defended them both in the same match. Easiest solution is to not even bring the subject up before Mania. They just waited until after the show was over to bring it up and have "Jack Tunney rule" that the I-C belt was vacant.
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Post by sdoyle7798 on Dec 22, 2011 4:47:20 GMT -5
How so, barring a DQ/CO finish (in which the building would have been burnt to the ground), the title was being vacated no matter what.... There is a difference between Warrior winning a higher title and vacating it and Hogan winning a lesser title and basically saying, "f*** this. This belt is below mine, so is Warrior." and leaving it. I'm not seeing a difference here. Either scenario shows the world title as being above the IC title. Which it is. Who would, if given the choice, take the IC title over the world title. It doesn't devalue the belt at all. Its the #2 title, and if you have a choice between #1 or #2 in the world, which are you going to take? If anything, it makes the Warrior look like an idiot for putting the IC title on the line. He should have known that if he loses, he is out a belt, and that Hogan would chose to keep the world title out of the two (as well he should, for the reasons I mentioned above). As far as I know, Warrior could've challenged for the world title without putting the IC title being on the line. But saying Hogan not taking the IC title over the world title doesn't devalue the belt. It keeps it at its current level. |
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Post by mauled on Dec 22, 2011 8:44:05 GMT -5
Changing the subject a little, but I wonder if having Perfect beat Warrior clean for the IC belt then have him challenge Warrior for the main title (with Warrior winning of course) might have been a better fued than Warrior simply demolishing Rude for 100th time work better for Warrior and business.
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