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Post by mysterydriver on Oct 1, 2012 22:08:38 GMT -5
Did the ruined Tensai gimmick ruin a gimmick?
Gimmiception?
The Circle of Life] Gimmick...is complete!
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Post by ThatDamnPotato on Oct 1, 2012 22:13:07 GMT -5
No because he's still over...did you hear the pop he got when he came out to JRs rescue tonight?
Granted it was because of what I just said and Tyson Kidd probably would have come out to the same pop?
I want him to succeed!
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Post by Big Kahuna Burger on Oct 1, 2012 22:14:55 GMT -5
Oh yeah, it's all over for him now. Just when he was getting over too. Damn Tensai for sandbagging him. It's not enough that his own crappy gimmick never took off, now he's got to ruin other people's gimmicks too? Shame on him.
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Post by Dang! on Oct 1, 2012 22:14:58 GMT -5
We'll see. I hope not, but I could see WWE rethink his push. The thing is that his finisher is some sort of Muscle Buster which is usually performed on smaller opponents. Ryback has already hit the move on two guys at once, but I think that it's sorta hard to execute it on big guys. I couldn't see anyone perform this on Big Show for example. Ryback is supposed to looks strong as f*** and he looked sorta weak there. I hope they keep pushing him as the next big thing, though.
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Post by mizerable on Oct 1, 2012 22:15:44 GMT -5
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Post by Jeremy on Oct 1, 2012 22:16:17 GMT -5
He also hit it a few days ago. It was just a bad night and he recovered nicely.
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Post by saintpat on Oct 1, 2012 22:19:06 GMT -5
Guys with a strongman gimmick most look strong at all times.
I don't get the big-man excuse. Cena got Big Show and Edge up, Ryback should be able to lift Tensai.
It's over.
Next.
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Post by Jeremy on Oct 1, 2012 22:20:28 GMT -5
Guys with a strongman gimmick most look strong at all times. I don't get the big-man excuse. Cena got Big Show and Edge up, Ryback should be able to lift Tensai. It's over. Next. He hit it a few days ago. Something was up.
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Post by Big Kahuna Burger on Oct 1, 2012 22:22:01 GMT -5
In all seriousness I think Tensai will take the flak for this backstage. I wouldn't be at all surprised if we never see him on our screens again (fingers crossed!)
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Post by unholyminion on Oct 1, 2012 22:26:26 GMT -5
He's botched all of once since his push started. He still looks like a f***ing monster, and that's all that counts. People really need to quit jumping the gun on this "buried/gimmick ruined" shit.
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Post by Corporate H on Oct 1, 2012 22:28:34 GMT -5
I think it's kinda obvious he sandbagged him. Even on SmackDown! it looked like Ryback forced the guy up as opposed to Tensai jumping with the move making the setup easier. Notice him how he just ragdolls himself when Ryback tries to dip him down and then up on all three attempts. If he had bent his knees and sprung up like he's supposed to I don't think it would have botched like it did. Maybe he's pissed he isn't getting the monster push anymore..Ryback is pretty damn sloppy as it is, I'd be pissed too. Albert has like almost fifteen years of seniority on the guy.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2012 22:29:17 GMT -5
Maybe so.
Antonio Cesaro could lift Tensai.
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Post by Brother Nero....Wolfe on Oct 1, 2012 22:31:17 GMT -5
I voted "Maybe so" but nah, not really. The crowd went bananas for him, no way they are gonna waste that.
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Post by YiHammer on Oct 1, 2012 22:31:47 GMT -5
Maybe so. Antonio Cesaro could lift Tensai. Because Claudios muscles are all natural and trained for strength, not looking big. Ryback seems to train only for looks like Batista and not strength like Cena or Claudio
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Post by mizerable on Oct 1, 2012 22:32:44 GMT -5
He's botched all of once since his push started. He still looks like a f***ing monster, and that's all that counts. People really need to quit jumping the gun on this "buried/gimmick ruined" s***. Yeah, it's hilarious how people flip out about things. Punk has had his fair share of botches over the last year, he's still getting pushed. Unless Ryback recklessly injured Tensai, then they're going to continue to push him as long as the crowds still cheer him.
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Post by unholyminion on Oct 1, 2012 22:32:47 GMT -5
Maybe so. Antonio Cesaro could lift Tensai. Because Claudios muscles are all natural and trained for strength, not looking big. Ryback seems to train only for looks like Batista and not strength like Cena or Claudio He's. Lifted. Tensai. Before. Jesus, how many times does this need to be said?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2012 22:33:01 GMT -5
I think it's kinda obvious he sandbagged him. Even on SmackDown! it looked like Ryback forced the guy up as opposed to Tensai jumping with the move making the setup easier. Notice him how he just ragdolls himself when Ryback tries to dip him down and then up on all three attempts. If he had bent his knees and sprung up like he's supposed to I don't think it would have botched like it did. Maybe he's pissed he isn't getting the monster push anymore..Ryback is pretty damn sloppy as it is, I'd be pissed too. Albert has like almost fifteen years of seniority on the guy. It's hard for a 370 pound man to "jump" when he's on his tippy-toes with one foot on the ground. Tensai didn't sandbag him, they just couldn't get the timing perfect and Ryback couldn't muscle him up. It's the move, it's stupid when he's doing it to someone bigger than him.
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Post by Corporate H on Oct 1, 2012 22:33:40 GMT -5
Come to think of it, the guy has two job to Ryback twice in a row, there's probably something up backstage..I don't normally look into backstage politics but he went from being a monster who destroyed top competitors like Cena to being "feed" to Ryback in short order on both national television shows. I have a feeling he'll either be repackaged or never heard about again. I think it's kinda obvious he sandbagged him. Even on SmackDown! it looked like Ryback forced the guy up as opposed to Tensai jumping with the move making the setup easier. Notice him how he just ragdolls himself when Ryback tries to dip him down and then up on all three attempts. If he had bent his knees and sprung up like he's supposed to I don't think it would have botched like it did. Maybe he's pissed he isn't getting the monster push anymore..Ryback is pretty damn sloppy as it is, I'd be pissed too. Albert has like almost fifteen years of seniority on the guy. It's hard for a 370 pound man to "jump" when he's on his tippy-toes with one foot on the ground. Tensai didn't sandbag him, they just couldn't get the timing perfect and Ryback couldn't muscle him up. It's the move, it's stupid when he's doing it to someone bigger than him. I can see what you're saying, but he has the leverage of Ryback holding him to get up there. I dunno, didn't even really seem like he even tried. It's not necessarily a "jump" as much as it's like a spring to make yourself lighter. I used to get shit for "sandbagging" all the time in wrestling school, but it was really just me not knowing any better and not applying the proper support.
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Post by Jeremy on Oct 1, 2012 22:34:26 GMT -5
Makes it look more real. Sometimes he won't be able to get the guy up for whatever reason.
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Post by mizerable on Oct 1, 2012 22:35:25 GMT -5
Does sandbagging include unintentionally not being ready to take the move?
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