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Post by Some Guy on Oct 10, 2012 0:42:44 GMT -5
He's fine in the ring, but he's beaten everyone besides Sheamus this year minus that one random Raw loss against Orton. He doesn't need to be kept THIS strong, of all the heels they keep strong it's him. It's annoying.
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Post by gl83 on Oct 10, 2012 0:45:08 GMT -5
What in the hell do they see in Del Rio He makes children cry. He makes grown men cry {Spoiler}because of how dull and boring he is.
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Post by CH Punk on Oct 10, 2012 0:49:32 GMT -5
The males started this show PUMPED UP, but by the end of it, they were more deflated than a popped balloon.
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Post by Citizen Grimm on Oct 10, 2012 0:58:59 GMT -5
The booking of ADR is absolutely baffling to me.
I get that the WWE sees a lot of potential in the guy and that he helps bring in the Hispanic market. I understand their reasoning of having him on TV and winning matches.
That said, the WWE has to realize that the guy isn't getting over how they expect him to. He's not getting large amount of heel heat from anyone (not even the younger audience members) and isn't getting face pops from older fans who like to cheer heels. ADR, while he has charisma, just isn't able to project it to the audience. He's just sort of there.
He seriously needs to be put back in the midcard and do some work there. He needs to do something to help connect with the audience and could stand to add some new moves to his moveset. The guy is a very solid hand in the ring but his slow, methodical style can be a bit boring when you consider how athletic he actually is.
ADR seems like a talented worker that the WWE just needs to go back to the drawing board on. The gave the guy a several month feud for a world title and it tanked hard.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Oct 10, 2012 1:10:51 GMT -5
I still believe Kaitlyn attacked herself as a result of a mirror confusing her. I still believe Kaitlyn tried to walk & chew gum at the same time and fell & hurt her ankle & when someone asked her what happened, she lied & said someone attacked her because she was too embarassed.
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Post by WarChief on Oct 10, 2012 1:51:15 GMT -5
Del Rio needs to spend some time at the very bottom of the the card.
By some time, I mean the rest of his career.
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Post by #RUDO Coco Del Rio on Oct 10, 2012 1:53:40 GMT -5
I still believe Kaitlyn attacked herself as a result of a mirror confusing her. I still believe Kaitlyn tried to walk & chew gum at the same time and fell & hurt her ankle & when someone asked her what happened, she lied & said someone attacked her because she was too embarassed. Or maybe AJ and Kaitlyn were backstage tickling each other to death and then AJ accidentally made Kaitlyn trip. Not wanting to lose her GM gig, AJ tells Kaitlyn not to say it was her and promises to reward Kaitlyn with an instant rematch if she keeps her end of the deal. Then they pinky swear and AJ leaves Kaitlyn on the floor.
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Post by Straight Edge Scrotum on Oct 10, 2012 3:02:43 GMT -5
I have be honest, I don't see what everyone else does in Daniel Bryan. I mean, I know the guy's talented and I did see some of his work in ROH but since he came to the WWE it isn't working for me. His offense is basically a running dropkick and a bunch of kicks to the chest, and a fancy crossface while screaming YES/NO at the top of his lungs the whole time. It just doesn't do a thing for me.
I'll admit I'm not a fan either, but come on. You had to know ADR was going over DB. The guy's higher up the totem and is in the main event scene. I don't think he's quite as boring as everyone says he is, but I think that's just armchair booking to a certain degree. That said, ADR winning clean works for me.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Oct 10, 2012 3:40:36 GMT -5
I have be honest, I don't see what everyone else does in Daniel Bryan. I mean, I know the guy's talented and I did see some of his work in ROH but since he came to the WWE it isn't working for me. His offense is basically a running dropkick and a bunch of kicks to the chest, and a fancy crossface while screaming YES/NO at the top of his lungs the whole time. It just doesn't do a thing for me.
I'll admit I'm not a fan either, but come on. You had to know ADR was going over DB. The guy's higher up the totem and is in the main event scene. I don't think he's quite as boring as everyone says he is, but I think that's just armchair booking to a certain degree. That said, ADR winning clean works for me. It makes no sense considering how hot the crowd is for Bryan and Kane's angle compared to how apathetic they are towards anything Del Rio does. Why use one of the most over guys on the roster to put over a guy that they haven't been able to get over in two years? It's a waste. Hopefully Orton decimates him and he goes on to flounder in the midcard where he belongs.
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Post by juvijuiceisloose on Oct 10, 2012 3:49:22 GMT -5
I have be honest, I don't see what everyone else does in Daniel Bryan. I mean, I know the guy's talented and I did see some of his work in ROH but since he came to the WWE it isn't working for me. His offense is basically a running dropkick and a bunch of kicks to the chest, and a fancy crossface while screaming YES/NO at the top of his lungs the whole time. It just doesn't do a thing for me.
I'll admit I'm not a fan either, but come on. You had to know ADR was going over DB. The guy's higher up the totem and is in the main event scene. I don't think he's quite as boring as everyone says he is, but I think that's just armchair booking to a certain degree. That said, ADR winning clean works for me. I like Bryan and I like ADR, and I really don't have that much of a problem with Del Rio beating him. The biggest difference between the two of them is Bryan is much more over. He's has more opportunities than Bryan.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Oct 10, 2012 5:14:48 GMT -5
f*** Smackdown...
Why? Would it really hurt to have Sheamus and Tensai go for a good 10 minutes? I despise short matches like this that really do nothing for either guy.
Ahhh, WWE creative giving lower card guys they don't care about shitty finishers again... The inverted DDT sucks. Nobody has ever got over using it. Ditto the pumphandle slam, leaping reverse STO and the overdrive. Please... stop giving guys shitty, half-assed finishers.
Build up a Kofi vs Miz feud... feed Kofi to the waste of space Big Show. That makes sense... surely they could have used someone like JTG for this? Or hell, even use R-Truth since he isn't doing anything now.
We've got a guy who botches everytime he gets in the ring and is utterly pointless... and a guy who is charismatic, entertaining and could be a main eventer. So WWE decide to job the talented guy out in a few minutes. Why? I hate short matches, they're a waste of time.
Sigh... taking the most entertaining and one of the most over guys on the roster in Daniel Bryan and jobbing him to the least entertaining and least over guys on the roster. Makes sense WWE. Hey Vince! People don't give a toss about ADR so stop forcing him down our throats. The guy sucks.
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Post by 543Y2J on Oct 10, 2012 5:19:31 GMT -5
Stop pushing Del Rio for f*** sake, especially when its over Daniel Bryan.
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Post by Dub H on Oct 10, 2012 6:37:52 GMT -5
Del Rio make Bryan tap,god danmit.From all the people,why Bryan?
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Oct 10, 2012 7:06:37 GMT -5
Del Rio make Bryan tap,god danmit.From all the people,why Bryan? While being a submission specialist should mean that Bryan should find ways out of a submission hold, it doesn't make the damn holds hurt any less when he's stuck in one, especially the finishing hold of (in kayfabe, and ignoring his crowd reaction or lack there of... after all, he DID keep winning those No. 1 contender matches) one of the best wrestlers on the roster in Del Rio. I don't really care for Bryan losing to Del Rio as much as the next guy, but I'm tired of it being perceived as some grand conspiracy to hold down/bury Bryan.
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Post by Krimzon on Oct 10, 2012 9:18:27 GMT -5
The inverted DDT sucks. Nobody has ever got over using it.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Oct 10, 2012 9:22:55 GMT -5
The inverted DDT sucks. Nobody has ever got over using it. I actually forgot all about Sting using it No idea who the chubby Japanese guy is though.
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Post by amaron on Oct 10, 2012 9:24:46 GMT -5
So I guess it goes to show that no matter how good you are, if you're put in a tag team you'll be a job monkey in a singles match.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2012 9:27:27 GMT -5
Even worse than forgetting about Sting, you called Sin Cara of all people pointless?
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Post by Hanz Moleman on Oct 10, 2012 9:33:43 GMT -5
The inverted DDT sucks. Nobody has ever got over using it. Exactly! Also, I mean Road Dogg was known more for Shake Rattle and Roll and Crazy Knee Drop, but he DID use a pumphandle slam...or was it a drop? And I know he wasn't exactly super over, but Shelton made the jumping reverse sto look fantastic. Also, my main question for this post. What experience does ADR have in the past of working face/heel? I don't know much of his background but I can see what the WWE wants him to be, and I totally think he can do it, he was just brought in as such a mega heel that he has no option but to flounder. He needs to go to the mid card to freshen things up but its like they can't do it with him because they have presented him as a perma-main eventer.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Oct 10, 2012 9:36:42 GMT -5
Even worse than forgetting about Sting, you called Sin Cara of all people pointless? I actually slipped that in deliberately in the hopes someone would pick up on it ;D Glad the board didn't disapoint
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