The dumbest fan proposals you've heard

[Burst]

I mean in terms of fans thinking they know better how to run franchises, whether it's in the form of armchair booking, armchair coaching, armchair writing, basically anytime a fan thinks that their ideas are superior to the people actually producing the product.

I don't mean to continue using motorsport as my example, but I just rolled my eyes so far into the back of my head I'm straining my optic muscles at a proposal I just read regarding Indycar and NASCAR.

An Indycar blogger proposed that Indycar convene with Bruton Smith, mogul track owner and perpetual thorn in the side of NASCAR, to attempt to stir the pot and cause a NASCAR split by having Smith form a rival stock car series on his Speedway Motorsports-owned tracks, and basically force NASCAR into a CART/IRL split, ostensibly to Indycar's advantage.

Do they honestly think that anybody involved in stock car is stupid enough not to have seen everything that went wrong with the Indycar split? All splitting NASCAR would accomplish is yet another pyrrhic victory and a veritable desolate wasteland of American motorsport, which would, in this case, probably wind up benefiting Formula 1 or just putting the general public off of motorsport altogether.

I'm sure there's other brilliant complete lacks of foresight out there too, though I wish I had another non-motorsport example.

[twiggy101]

When Oblivion was like a year away from release there were lots of fans who wanted to make changes for the sake of "realism" and want to make it as real life as possible because their lives really suck.

[montee916]

I don't know if it was a fan theory, but when they were talking about doing a live action Star Wars tv series fitting in between Revenge of The Sith and A New Hope, one storyline being floated had one of the characters travelling back in time to prevent Anakin from ever becoming Vader in the first place.

["Playboy" Don Douglas]

I can't remember specifics, but I've heard a ton involving wrestling. Seemingly without fail, the logic behind whatever bizarre proposal is, "It would be something different."

I always quote Ole Anderson: "I could drop my trunks, squat down, and take a shit in the middle of the ring and that would be different, too. It doesn't mean it would be any good or that people would want to see it."

[RI Richmark]

You should listen to sports talk radio sometime. It's a goldmine of dumb-shit. Like the people who think that other teams will trade a superstar our crap (I think the Red Sox should trade Alex Wilson and Jarrod Saltalamacchia to Seattle for Felix Hernandez.)

And then there's the in game strategy. There are people obsessed with bunting. It doesn't matter if David Ortiz is batting in the 3rd inning, if there are runners on he should bunt.

And don't get me started with the people barely qualified to run the milkshake machine at Burger King thinking he knows football better than Bill Belichick.

[Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!!]

the Indoctrination theory. it was hilarious when the extended endings came out and some of the neckbeards had a screaming fit because it stomped all over their stupid theory.

[MWC]

Joe Webb

That has been the most recent one for me as a Vikings fan. The problem here is that people expect results instantly. Finally, the team has a young QB that actually looks like he will have some form of potential in Christian Ponder. His offensive line couldn't block worth anything last season and that shook his confidence a bit, and this year the line can run-block but is still struggling with pass-blocking. Also not helping is his wide receivers (how about 6 drops last Sunday) and rarely are they getting open. As it works in the NFL, the scapegoat is Ponder.

So now, a lot of Vikings fans are calling for Joe Webb. Yes, the guy who was drafted as a wide receiver. If he was the "answer" the Vikings coaching staff would give it some thought of playing him but that hasn't and won't be the case. The guy is talented, but I really don't think he could be a franchise quarterback (and the Vikings don't think this also)

For many years the Vikings have had "old Quarterbacks" and fans wished for that one franchise guy that could be like Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady etc. Now they have a chance to build this guy, who has shown a hell of a lot more potential than Tarvaris Jackson ever did at this point, and fans want to give up on him. It kills me.

I'm not saying the guy is going to be gold, but to not stick with him and give him a good amount of time to really judge his ability is only going to hurt. The team is 6-5 right now and has double the amount of wins as last year. Things might not seem perfect, but it's improving.

[G✇JI☈A]

I remember there a petition going around the wrestling message boards to get WCW lower midcarder Lash Leroux to play Gambit in the then in development X-Men movie.

[Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!!]

I also remember people being pissed off that Marvel Films cast an actual actor instead of Triple H to play Thor, and they were pissed at Sam Raimi for casting an actual actor instead of Brock Lesnar as Venom. just cause a guy kinda looks like a comic book character doesn't mean they can play one. and nobody would've taken Thor seriously if Triple H was the star.

[Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill]

The World of Warcraft community isawful at this. Their solution is to pretty much remove LFG, revert everything back to vanilla and make so that only the elite of the elite (IE the ones who do nothing but play the game for 12 hours at a time) can get to the end game, while making all casual players struggle to do anything and everything without all the newer features because they promote laziness somehow.

[Koda, Master Crunchyroller]

Nov 27, 2012 23:50:12 GMT -5 Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! said:

the Indoctrination theory. it was hilarious when the extended endings came out and some of the neckbeards had a screaming fit because it stomped all over their stupid theory.

To be fair, prior to the extended cut coming out, the theory was the only thing that remotely made sense out of the plothole filled ending.

Was it perfect? Hell no, but it was better than the alternative, which was a vague as f*** plothole filled ending that made everyone think the galaxy was f***ed, thus requiring BioWare themselves to have to say, "Everyone! The galaxy isn't totally f***ed beyond repair! Here's why."

When a developer has to come out and explain the damned ending it shows you how badly they did it.

[Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!!]

not disagreeing about how bad the original ending was (mind, I wasn't quite as foaming-at-the-mouth as others were). I just thought the Indoctrination theory was stupid. it was the same kind of logic as "Xorn wasn't Magneto, it was Xorn's brother who looks just like Magneto pretending to be Xorn pretending to be Magneto" or "the shark is going after the family because of a voodoo curse". it was a dumb explanation that raised way more questions than it actually answered, and felt less like "this is a good explanantion" and more like "I didn't like the outcome so I wrote a terrible fanfic answer that only a 4 year old would buy to explain why what I didn't like didn't happen".

[Sektor]

Nov 27, 2012 23:50:12 GMT -5 Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! said:

the Indoctrination theory. it was hilarious when the extended endings came out and some of the neckbeards had a screaming fit because it stomped all over their stupid theory.

Essentially everything involving the Mass Effect 3 ending fix. It was all equally stupid. There were maybe five people who said something that made sense and the rest was just a whirling tornado of failure.

[Cyno]

On the Mass Effect note, everyone clamoring for a First Contact War game to be Mass Effect 4. Most of these people don't know how tiny a conflict the Relay 314 Incident (what the turians called it) was and have very little knowledge (though they pretend they do) of the ME lore.

Shepard probably piled up a higher body count in the first Mass Effect game alone than the total combined casualties of humans and turians in the First Contact War. The entire thing lasted two months, had two major skirmishes in the two battles of Shanxi, and ended with the asari and salarians saying "We should probably step in before the turians decide to completely annihilate this promising new race" and negotiated a peace treaty. Pretty much everything of note that happened during that time was covered in the ME Codexes and some EU material. It just wouldn't make for a very good game.

[SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman]

Ending the WWE brand split, especially considering it usually comes from the same people who complain about how we always see the same people in the main event picture. Having only one show Would only make the usual suspects also hog the midcard.

[darthalexander]

I can say that living in Montreal and being a Habs fan, I have heard quite a bit of outrageous stuff.

1. A player has a bad game? Trade him! (This comes up so many times - easily the biggest thing you hear all the time).

2. We have a bad player? Trade him for a superstar or a really great winger! (Forget salary cap issues, the other team wanting something good in return - Gomez isn't a big enough return people).

3. The team and organization should be entirely French Canadian. It's the only way to get success and every FC in the NHL wants to play for us anyways!

4. Let's trade this great prospect/group of prospects for an iffy player. Like we give up a ton of prospects to get Crosby (for example). There goes our future for one player who may get injured again and be out for good.

5. Patrick Roy will lead us to glory once again and a new dynasty will be born. Ha ha, right.

6. It's not really a proposal but the whole 911 thing....Jesus...

[Push R Truth]

Every year, there is a group of Iowa Hawkeye Football Fans that call the local meatball sports radio stations and brag about how Iowa is going to run away with the Big 10 Championship and play in the BCS Title Game.

Every year these same people call in after the season wanting everybody fired because they magically believe that the Iowa Hawkeyes should be contending every friggin' year for a National Title and their stupid coaches are the only reason it didn't happen.

[Deleted]

Pretty much any time anything that's primarily for kids or something that wasn't supposed to be taken seriously to begin with (TMNT fits both bills here, for example) is presented as a "gritty reboot."

[Glitch]

Some cena mark a few years back(when were wrestlecrap) saying cena should come down the ramp with one of his fans and beat down edge.

[SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman]

Nov 28, 2012 15:21:49 GMT -5 @wvguitar said:

Pretty much any time anything that's primarily for kids or something that wasn't supposed to be taken seriously to begin with (TMNT fits both bills here, for example) is presented as a "gritty reboot."

Honestly, the concept of gritty reboot as a whole has become very annoying to me. It's basically "we're just as ridiculous as before, except we're not in on the joke anymore".

Take Casino Royale, for example: it has some stuff that's just as if not more over-the-top as the previous films, but now it takes itself seriously. I'm sorry but I don't respect your movie more simply because it's become arrogant, especially when it really isn't more realistic than what came before it, and at least the stuff before it did not aim for realism.