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Post by Snaptastic on Jan 19, 2012 10:17:51 GMT -5
Fatal-4-Way back in June, and Bragging Rights in December instead. No TLC.
Sorry if this was posted already.
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Post by Sajoa Moe on Jan 19, 2012 10:19:32 GMT -5
And they're still keeping Hell in a Cell?
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Post by Arrow on Jan 19, 2012 10:21:33 GMT -5
I've never gotten the point of a Fatal 4-Way pay-per-view.
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Post by moneyman20 on Jan 19, 2012 10:21:38 GMT -5
So they're going to put the two elimination match ppvs back-to-back again?
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Post by Heel on Jan 19, 2012 10:41:01 GMT -5
Fatal 4 Way is a fatal failure. It's not as bad as Over The Limit but it's still terrible
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Post by El Dandy on Jan 19, 2012 13:43:56 GMT -5
They really need to bring back some of the PPVs from the past to replace the gimmick shows.
I dearly miss the King of the Ring PPV as it was a pedestal to try to create new stars/characters. Loved me some of King Bookah! Also, why not reintroduce shows like Halloween Havoc for the October PPV? Replace "Bragging Rights" with War Games. My ideal WWE PPV Calendar would be 10 shows instead of 12:
January: Royal Rumble February: SuperBrawl April: WrestleMania May: Slamboree June: King of the Ring July: Great American Bash August: Summerslam October: Halloween Havoc or Fall Brawl November: Survivor Series December: Starrcade
I would love for every PPV to be towards the end of every month, like how it used to be. It would at least give them three to four weeks to build up their monthly shows and have a fully announced lineup card heading to every PPV as opposed to just having a few announced matches and only finding out the week of the show what the rest of the card will look like.
Having 10 big shows also gives them time to build up for the huge events. The two months that don't air PPVs can be used to have a free national broadcast like we used to see with Saturday Night's Main Event, The Big Event, or Clash of the Champions.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 19, 2012 13:52:36 GMT -5
They don't need Bragging Rights. The roster is unified, and the "team" format could be done at the Survivor Series.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2012 13:59:53 GMT -5
I can only presume this is some kind of error on the WWE's website, because there is absolutely no way the WWE is stupid enough to bring back the Fatal 4 Way PPV.
Not only is the concept of a PPV which centralises itself around such a tepid gimmick match completely ridiculous, but the first F4W PPV was a total flop. It did just 143k buys, which is horrible.
Oh, and replacing TLC with Bragging Rights would also be a shockingly stupid idea. TLC generally does good numbers, whilst Bragging Rights did so bad it got shelved after just 2 events. Moving it to the PPV after Survivor Series, when it was proven that having it near Survivor Series hurt its buyrate, would make no sense.
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Post by 4real on Jan 19, 2012 15:18:57 GMT -5
Yeah I don't agree with any of these decisions
Fatal 4 way was a rubbish idea for a PPV in the first place. I don't see why it's been brought back.
I liked Bragging Rights and was a little miffed the WWE got rid of it but I was happy when they brought it back and put it in June, now it's not right next to Survivor Series and can be done after a draft possibly. But no it gets moved to the PPV after Survivor Series
TLC I liked as a PPV, I think maybe the WWE got rid of it possibly because they were getting tired of figuring out who should be in what match. In that case just have two TLC matches, one for each of the world titles and the rest be normal matches. Just simplify things a bit.
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Post by CH Punk on Jan 19, 2012 15:37:56 GMT -5
Well, at this point, the next piece of PPV news will announce the replacement of Money in the Bank by WWE Guest Referee.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2012 15:45:41 GMT -5
Wait, wait. These idiots have killed TLC, the one gimmick that works for a PPV, and brought back Fatal Four Way and Bragging Rights of all things? What the hell is wrong with them?
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Post by MrBRulzOK on Jan 19, 2012 15:50:00 GMT -5
I'm actually fine with them killing the TLC pay per view. All it did was water down the concept of TLC as a whole. Likewise I'd be just as fine with them getting rid of Hell in a Cell if they're not going to bother building to one properly.
Though that said I'm not sure bringing back Fatal Four Way and Bragging Rights is the right move, especially with the latter since they're sticking it right behind Survivor Series.
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Post by CH Punk on Jan 19, 2012 15:53:03 GMT -5
They don't need Bragging Rights. The roster is unified, and the "team" format could be done at the Survivor Series. Bragging Rights would work if it was around the time of the draft because WWE always creates fake brand loyalty around that time and it would add more interest in the Brand Wars story.
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Post by Dean-o on Jan 19, 2012 16:24:32 GMT -5
TLC has been my second favorite PPV for the past 2 years, after MITB. I can't believe they are killing it off.
Just let Hell In A Cell die. They have ruined what once was a great match.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 19, 2012 16:26:46 GMT -5
TLC has been my second favorite PPV for the past 2 years, after MITB. I can't believe they are killing it off. Just let Hell In A Cell die. They have ruined what once was a great match. This. Hell in a Cell is supposed to be a feud ender, not a match two guys who sort of don't like one another happen to participate in because it's that time of the year again. Honestly, I get that the gimmick PPVs sell, but find something else. Don't drag the Cell down any longer.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Jan 19, 2012 16:29:53 GMT -5
Well, that's stupid. TLC has been one of the best of the new spate of gimmick PPVs introduced a few years ago, and the first Fatal Fourway flopped catastrophically.
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Post by Dragonfly on Jan 19, 2012 16:38:50 GMT -5
Fatal 4 Way is a fatal failure. It's not as bad as Over The Limit but it's still terrible I never understood the hatred for Over the Limit. It isn't a themed PPV. Don't we want more "theme-free" shows? To be honest, wouldn't mind if Over the Limit had a theme - seven time-limit draws and a match in which they break the maximum occupancy laws of the arena.
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Post by CH Punk on Jan 19, 2012 16:41:15 GMT -5
Fatal 4 Way is a fatal failure. It's not as bad as Over The Limit but it's still terrible I never understood the hatred for Over the Limit. It isn't a themed PPV. Don't we want more "theme-free" shows? To be honest, wouldn't mind if Over the Limit had a theme - seven time-limit draws and a match in which they break the maximum occupancy laws of the arena. Over the Limit does have a theme, it's I Quit matches (the main events of both editions).
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Jan 19, 2012 16:45:23 GMT -5
Wait, wait. These idiots have killed TLC, the one gimmick that works for a PPV, and brought back Fatal Four Way and Bragging Rights of all things? What the hell is wrong with them? I don't know man. 6 guys finding arbitrary ways to justify having a match involving just table, ladders, or chairs, and then another match that somehow justifies having all three is kind of hard to book without being ridiculous.
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Post by Celgress on Jan 19, 2012 16:53:45 GMT -5
I've never gotten the point of a Fatal 4-Way pay-per-view. nor have I
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