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Post by Large Father Frigid on Jan 17, 2012 23:33:46 GMT -5
I like Rock, but it would be complete bulls*** if he won that match. It's not right for business. Why should it matter if it's "right for the business" just be entertained by it Yeah, "former wrestler turned C-level movie star beating current top star" is a hell of an entertaining prospect.
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Post by Starshine on Jan 17, 2012 23:36:36 GMT -5
Why should it matter if it's "right for the business" just be entertained by it Yeah, "former wrestler turned C-level movie star beating current top star" is a hell of an entertaining prospect. But when former wrestler turned C-level movie star is still a much bigger name and draw than current top star, it doesn't sound so crazy. Now can we just stop generalising it this way? The Rock was and is a lot more relevant than say, former World Champion David Arquette.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2012 23:38:05 GMT -5
I like Rock, but it would be complete bulls*** if he won that match. It's not right for business. Why should it matter if it's "right for the business" just be entertained by it Because having a guy who comes in once in a blue moon prove himself far and away better than every single one of the guys you have on every week is incredibly stupid for getting people to take your show seriously when he's not around. Especially when a lot of eyes who don't watch regularly will be on the product for it.
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Post by the3rdman on Jan 17, 2012 23:38:40 GMT -5
Why should it matter if it's "right for the business" just be entertained by it Yeah, "former wrestler turned C-level movie star beating current top star" is a hell of an entertaining prospect. all I'm saying is that why should we, as fans, be worried about what's right for business? Why can't we just enjoy the match? Rock beating Cena wouldn't hurt Cena at all. Hell, if Cena ends up turning heel after the match, I don't think people are even gonna give a shit about who beat who at Wrestlemania. ...and yeah, The Rock (a guy you said you loved) beating Cena just might be entertaining even if it supposedly isn't right for business
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Post by BigWill on Jan 17, 2012 23:45:28 GMT -5
Why should it matter if it's "right for the business" just be entertained by it Yeah, "former wrestler turned C-level movie star beating current top star" is a hell of an entertaining prospect. It is. If you like the guy, what does it matter if he's a former wrestler turned movie star? Unless you own stock in the company or something, who cares if it's good for business or not?
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jan 17, 2012 23:49:11 GMT -5
The thing with the whole "Who should win, Rock or Cena?" debate is that there is no true right answer. I can see why people would want Cena to win because it DOES kinda make Cena look like crap if a guy who hasn't been a regular part of the roster and who has been verbally tearing into him on and off for a year (and has even physical punked Cena out multiple times) beats him. Unless they turn Cena heel after the match, Cena is pretty much gonna be dead in the water in terms of future programs and such.
At the same time, how is the crowd going to react to Rock losing? Are they going be happy with their hometown hero shaking hands with the man who just beat him? Will they cheer Cena? I can't answer those questions.
Basically, what I'm trying to say is, I see and somewhat agree with both sides on this matter.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2012 23:50:08 GMT -5
Yeah, "former wrestler turned C-level movie star beating current top star" is a hell of an entertaining prospect. It is. If you like the guy, what does it matter if he's a former wrestler turned movie star? Unless you own stock in the company or something, who cares if it's good for business or not? Those who want to see a company they like do well?
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Post by BigWill on Jan 17, 2012 23:55:36 GMT -5
It is. If you like the guy, what does it matter if he's a former wrestler turned movie star? Unless you own stock in the company or something, who cares if it's good for business or not? Those who want to see a company they like do well? It's not like the WWE is going to go out of business if Rock beats Cena. And I'd much rather see the superstar I like more win, rather than have them do something that might be better for business. I'm not a stockholder, I'm a fan. I'll be cheering along with the thousands in Maimi if Rock beats Cena, and to hell with whether or not it makes Cena look "weak".
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2012 0:02:12 GMT -5
Those who want to see a company they like do well? It's not like the WWE is going to go out of business if Rock beats Cena. And I'd much rather see the superstar I like more win, rather than have them do something that might be better for business. I'm not a stockholder, I'm a fan. I'll be cheering along with the thousands in Maimi if Rock beats Cena, and to hell with whether or not it makes Cena look "weak". Fair enough. Personally don't care that much either way, but Cena's my preference of the two easily and he has yet to get any particular payback on Rock, so I'll be pulling for him.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2012 0:03:01 GMT -5
I have said it a few times Cena losing is what needs to happen the benefit of once he loses is that there is your catalyst and sure fire heel turn and it atleast guarantees SOME sort of change in Cena , if he wins then nothing changes he comes out the next night goes his goofy schtick and shit eating grin and moves onto feud with whoever interrupts him.
Simple if he wins it is gonna do much more harm then it will do good.
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Post by flatsdomino on Jan 18, 2012 1:51:56 GMT -5
I'd argue that Cena winning makes the whole roster look like crap since Cena's been running roughshod over everyone for 8 years, then beating the Rock...that pretty much solidifies him as being "The Best", which is a problem because he doesn't even have the title, but also because it'll kill a LOT of people's interest (newfound or just current) in the product. Rock winning is the crowd pleaser. How is NOT pleasing the crowd, in the biggest match in the company's history, a bad idea? It's not a normal match. This is an exception.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2012 1:56:33 GMT -5
Cena would not be harmed at all losing to Rock at mania, nor would people lose confidence in all wrestlers and stop watching because Rock came back from a long break and was able to beat Cena.
I'm all for internet ideas being heard but this is truly one of those things that doesn't exist except on message boards. The wrestling business, WWE, Cena, and anyone else on the roster are not harmed even one iota if Rock wins at wrestlemania.
Also if he did beat Cena he'd just be beaten shortly after by HHH anyway.
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Post by frogsplash45 on Jan 18, 2012 5:23:59 GMT -5
Yeah, "former wrestler turned C-level movie star beating current top star" is a hell of an entertaining prospect. But when former wrestler turned C-level movie star is still a much bigger name and draw than current top star, it doesn't sound so crazy. Wasn't Hogan arguably the bigger name and draw when he took on Rock?
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Post by Ryushinku on Jan 18, 2012 5:26:28 GMT -5
Interesting points of view here. But I'm firmly in the "Rock wins = riot" camp.
As massive as a name as The Rock was, and remains, having a guy that hasn't wrestled in years to come casually strolling back in and beat the de facto main star of those years sends out a bit of a lousy message to the current gen.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Jan 18, 2012 6:27:15 GMT -5
I never thought about that, but he would have beaten the last three Top Guys at Wretlemania if he beats Cena. Crazy. So whats the more impressive resume? (If Rock did beat Cena) Rock- wins over three of the biggest stars- Hulk, Austin and Cena Taker- wins over HHH, HBK and Kane x2 each. Victories over Diesel, Henry, Batista, Edge and Orton. Very impressive, but apart from HBK and Flair there are no HUGE NUMBER ONE GUY names here. I just thought though... Hogan- Victories over Andre and Randy Savage. Pretty huge names right there.
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Post by machomuta on Jan 18, 2012 6:46:39 GMT -5
Rock beating Cena wouldn't hurt Cena at all. Cena beating Rock wouldnt hurt Rock at all. Giving Rock the win is pointless, since Rock is leaving WWE after Wrestlemania.
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Post by HBL on Jan 18, 2012 7:10:45 GMT -5
**Looks at thread title** ...we riot? Exactly.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jan 18, 2012 7:38:46 GMT -5
Considering that Cena has been Rock's whipping boy this entire feud, anything other than Cena winning (heel turn or not) would be rediculous
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Post by Red Lion on Jan 18, 2012 7:55:06 GMT -5
I want The Rock to win, but Cena simply has to win.
Jobbing your current star to a star of the previous era, who is only there part-time to boot, is the most counter-productive thing that they could possibly do.
UNLESS it's part of a longer term angle.
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Post by breakdownthewalls on Jan 18, 2012 8:22:39 GMT -5
I hope this goes similar to the Bret Hart/McMahon Mania match. Cena just whoops the holy hell out of the Rock for 10 to 15 minutes while members of the locker room stand around the ring and applaud.
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